tony357 386 Posted December 20, 2011 You guys must have some Good eating trash up their.. http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2011/12/nj_bear_hunt_is_over_but_battl.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lublin 3 Posted December 20, 2011 Amazing! That 829 lb'er is truly something else. I've got a photo of a monster in my neighbors driveway - probably around 600 lbs+. Didn't see him during 6 day firearm, though. Too bad. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedBowTies88 41 Posted December 20, 2011 so what did he shoot it with? I sure as hell wont be caught dead looking for bears with a muzzle loader... shotguns are less then ideal as well and rifles are illegal to hunt with.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NicePants 58 Posted December 20, 2011 Hoo boy. That's like a year's worth of bear chili! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lublin 3 Posted December 20, 2011 so what did he shoot it with? I sure as hell wont be caught dead looking for bears with a muzzle loader... shotguns are less then ideal as well and rifles are illegal to hunt with.... I'd be willing to bet he took it with a 12 or 20 ga. slug gun. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DevsAdvocate 112 Posted December 20, 2011 so what did he shoot it with? I sure as hell wont be caught dead looking for bears with a muzzle loader... shotguns are less then ideal as well and rifles are illegal to hunt with.... Maybe a bow? I find it disconcerting that hunters aren't allowed to carry pistols to back up their primary weapon... I'd hate to have a weapon malfunction and a bear coming for me... 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NJdiverTony 27 Posted December 20, 2011 Maybe a bow? I find it disconcerting that hunters aren't allowed to carry pistols to back up their primary weapon... I'd hate to have a weapon malfunction and a bear coming for me... I do not believe that bowhunting for bear in NJ is legal.... I thought only shotgun slug or muzzleloader were the only legal ways to hunt bears in NJ. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tony357 386 Posted December 20, 2011 If i were to bear hunt, i would use a muzzloader... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old School 611 Posted December 20, 2011 Shot right down the road from me by a local. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RecessedFilter 222 Posted December 21, 2011 Wow, that thing is MASSIVE. That really makes me anxious, I frequently backpack the AT and other trails in north western NJ and I would NOT want that thing coming up on my friends and I hiking. That is one reason why I wish we could carry, or at least carry a firearm during outdoor activities such as hiking/backpacking. But my bear spray should work alright...hopefully haha. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old School 611 Posted December 21, 2011 Wow, that thing is MASSIVE. That really makes me anxious, I frequently backpack the AT and other trails in north western NJ and I would NOT want that thing coming up on my friends and I hiking. That is one reason why I wish we could carry, or at least carry a firearm during outdoor activities such as hiking/backpacking. But my bear spray should work alright...hopefully haha. You do not have to fear black bears period! The inner city animals and your legilators are much more dangerous. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jon 264 Posted December 21, 2011 12 and 20ga slugs are the only legal ways to take bear in NJ at this time. ETA: My slug gun is a single-shot firing 546gr sabot slugs w/ 3700lb-ft of energy at the muzzle. I would not feel undergunned shooting at a bear with it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedBowTies88 41 Posted December 21, 2011 I've only shot rifled 12ga slugs. And to be honest while energy is there I've never been very impressed with their penetration ability. Of course sabots are probably a whole different ballgame Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
djg0770 481 Posted December 21, 2011 12 and 20ga slugs are the only legal ways to take bear in NJ at this time. REQUIREMENTS Bear hunters must have a current and valid NJ Firearm Hunting or All-around Sportsman License and Black Bear Season Permit to participate in the bear hunting season. Firearms are restricted to shotguns not smaller than 20 gauge nor larger than 10 gauge, shooting slugs and affixed with adjustable open iron or peep sights or a scope; or a muzzleloading rifle not less than .44 caliber shooting a single projectile.Hunters may hunt by stand hunting, still-hunting or drive hunting. It is illegal to take or attempt to take a bear in a den. http://www.state.nj....as11outlook.htm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jon 264 Posted December 21, 2011 http://www.state.nj....as11outlook.htm I stand corrected. Forgot about ML, my bad. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedBowTies88 41 Posted December 21, 2011 of course the 3 shell rule is still in effect? Better hope if the first shot doesn't drop him that you can hit him with the second 2. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shuban 0 Posted December 31, 2011 It's biggest bear which I ever see. Just Wonderful. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Plinker 1 Posted January 9, 2012 Wow that was a huge bear! We have them come thru the yard but I would guesstimate they were half the size of that monster... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tony357 386 Posted January 9, 2012 You do not have to fear black bears period! The inner city animals and your legilators are much more dangerous. Do you always have to tell the truth..It hurts you know!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GiantsFan 22 Posted January 9, 2012 You do not have to fear black bears period! The inner city animals and your legilators are much more dangerous. I disagree. Yes Black bear attacks are rather rare but still once they do decide to attack they will attack until either you or they are dead. You can submit to a Grizzley (roll over fetal, play dead etc) and chances are he might quit and leave you alone but not a Black bear. Once your in a fight with a Black bear it's for life - yours or his! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hd2000fxdl 422 Posted January 9, 2012 I disagree. Yes Black bear attacks are rather rare but still once they do decide to attack they will attack until either you or they are dead. You can submit to a Grizzley (roll over fetal, play dead etc) and chances are he might quit and leave you alone but not a Black bear. Once your in a fight with a Black bear it's for life - yours or his! Sarcasm meeter broke, huh??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Parker 213 Posted January 9, 2012 I disagree. Yes Black bear attacks are rather rare but still once they do decide to attack they will attack until either you or they are dead. You can submit to a Grizzley (roll over fetal, play dead etc) and chances are he might quit and leave you alone but not a Black bear. Once your in a fight with a Black bear it's for life - yours or his! I'll take my chances with a black bear compared to a grizzly. Black bears are not as unpredictable as grizzlies. Grizzlies are aptly named too; Ursus arctos horribilis. There is a reason the grizzly is protected in many areas today because they were hunted/exterminated to almost extinction. They were more feared by settlers moving West than the black bear. It's the proliferation of protected grizzly bears in parks that prompted legalizing firearm carry in National Parks for defense, not the black bear. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GiantsFan 22 Posted January 10, 2012 I'll take my chances with a black bear compared to a grizzly. Black bears are not as unpredictable as grizzlies. Grizzlies are aptly named too; Ursus arctos horribilis. There is a reason the grizzly is protected in many areas today because they were hunted/exterminated to almost extinction. They were more feared by settlers moving West than the black bear. It's the proliferation of protected grizzly bears in parks that prompted legalizing firearm carry in National Parks for defense, not the black bear. Sure, because you're more likely to be attacked by a brown bear (grizzley) then a black bear but still the smaller black bear will be intent on killing you if he does attack. At that point it's a fight to the death. The grizzley may well kill you too but it is well documented that if you submit and cover up (because you cant escape) he may give up the fight and walk away. Good thing for us that black bears are so predictable. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GiantsFan 22 Posted January 10, 2012 Sarcasm meeter broke, huh??? Not at all, I just chose to reply about one bear and not the other. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JaredC 6 Posted January 10, 2012 i would think one of my home defense 3 1/2 slugs will take that 800 lb'er down lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jon 264 Posted January 10, 2012 i would think one of my home defense 3 1/2 slugs will take that 800 lb'er down lol Shot placement would be key. A bear that big means a lot of chances for missing vitals. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Parker 213 Posted January 10, 2012 Sure, because you're more likely to be attacked by a brown bear (grizzley) then a black bear but still the smaller black bear will be intent on killing you if he does attack. At that point it's a fight to the death. The grizzley may well kill you too but it is well documented that if you submit and cover up (because you cant escape) he may give up the fight and walk away. Good thing for us that black bears are so predictable. It's been documented that if a human fights back with a black bear the human stands a better chance of living out the fight compared to a grizzly, brown or polar bear attack. Indian lore likened the black bear as created by the Great Spirit. The grizzly was created by the Evil Spirit. There was a reason they got that moniker. New Jersey's bear activist Angie Mettler thinks black bears are not dangerous at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JaredC 6 Posted January 12, 2012 It's been documented that if a human fights back with a black bear the human stands a better chance of living out the fight compared to a grizzly, brown or polar bear attack. Indian lore likened the black bear as created by the Great Spirit. The grizzly was created by the Evil Spirit. There was a reason they got that moniker. New Jersey's bear activist Angie Mettler thinks black bears are not dangerous at all. that lady has a screw loose in her head.... i was hoping the bear attacked her stupid a$$ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tony357 386 Posted January 12, 2012 that lady has a screw loose in her head.... i was hoping the bear attacked her stupid a$$ I was waiting also.. One of these days that woman is going to get eat'in... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites