gunforhire 826 Posted December 27, 2011 The propaganda machine is in full swing! http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/27/us/more-concealed-guns-and-some-are-in-the-wrong-hands.html?pagewanted=1&_r=3&hp Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,878 Posted December 27, 2011 I put up a comment on the page...... we'll see if they approve it... I love how they have to approve everything... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midwest 28 Posted December 27, 2011 Usually they (the media) put these things up when there is bill to be voted on, bill signed into law or to promote a certain politician. I glossed over the article, I see that they concentrated on North Carolina. Note that usually when these types of anti gun articles comes up, the Southern States seems to be singled out...as in this example. I never see Vermont mentioned in anti gun articles. Probably because it is a liberal state and people could carry concealed or open without a permit. The NYT would have a hard time trying to explain that to its readers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deadeye74 5 Posted December 27, 2011 Just read over page one of the story, and read down some of the comments under. Glad to see some people actually got their pro gun posts up on the board. Seems like the trend of the anti gun people is to point out carrying in church, court, or a bar. One person points out how its not necessary for everyone to use their second amendment right. Guess this idiot doesn't realize that our bill of rights is for EVERYONE! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Genewarper111 18 Posted December 27, 2011 I read this article and it is clearly unbalanced. However, the very fact that the authors can point to such a small number of individual events rather makes the point against them. This wiki page is of interest: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concealed_carry_in_the_United_States The point is not whether violent crime goes down, the point is whether or not it goes UP. If the answer to that is "no", then there is no reason whatsoever to restrict this activity, any more than to restrict any other with inherent dangers, such as driving. The NYT is clearly advancing an anti-gun agenda with this article and they should be called out on it full and hard. G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpacemanFry 51 Posted December 28, 2011 I read the first page and stopped before my blood pressure made my head explode. That article is so unabashedly biased (and simply wrong) it's sickening. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Soju 153 Posted December 28, 2011 The road to hell is paved with good intentions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old Glock guy 1,127 Posted December 28, 2011 . The NYT is clearly advancing an anti-gun agenda with this article and they should be called out on it full and hard. The NY Times has long since given up any pretense of being the bastion of unbiased journalism that they may have once been. Instead, they unabashedly advance a liberal agenda, not just in their editorial content, but in their news stories as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midwest 28 Posted December 28, 2011 Just a 'coincidence' that this 'story' happens to just come out right around this other story about gun sales going through the roof during Christmas? http://www.cnn.com/2011/12/27/us/record-gun-sales/ Yup,...just a 'coincidence'....that's all... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gunforhire 826 Posted December 31, 2011 Hypocrisy at its finest .http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2011/12/daniel-zimmerman/ny-politicians-second-thoughts-on-tn-woman-prosecution/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted December 31, 2011 Hypocrisy at its finest .http://www.thetrutha...an-prosecution/ Great post, she could make HR822 a win for the country. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gunforhire 826 Posted December 31, 2011 Great post, she could make HR822 a win for the country. Agreed! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gunforhire 826 Posted December 31, 2011 She may well be our poster child for HR *822. Either way it helps our cause by bringing to light the for a Federal Law. King Mike must not bee too happy right now! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Malsua 1,422 Posted December 31, 2011 Hypocrisy at its finest .http://www.thetrutha...an-prosecution/ Great article. This Tenn women is indeed the perfect martyr. She is sympathetic and in fact her willingness to abide by the law was her undoing. Nothing could fit HR822 better. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Malsua 1,422 Posted December 31, 2011 From the post article: After she was busted, police found a white substance in her purse Anyone have any more detail on that one? If it is drugs, this woman's goose is cooked. What white powder do women usually have in their purse? My wife doesn't carry anything but lipstick. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gunforhire 826 Posted December 31, 2011 I travel a lot and ALL my southern friends carry this in their purses and wallets - http://www.goodyspowder.com/ Tastes nasty but works lightning fast. I hope thats what it was. I have read about 20 articles and spoke to a NYC Captain and have not heard anymore about the powder. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gunforhire 826 Posted December 31, 2011 A thought to ponder from this quote - “Clearly, the laws are too strict here, but that’s something we need to work out for ourselves without honoring licenses to carry guns in states where felons can carry them,” (Vallone) said. Where in the US can felons carry guns? This is the type of uneducated crap we have to fight. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeklog 7 Posted December 31, 2011 the firearm organizations and nra around the area where anti gun makes a column on the paper, should really answer when something negative is brought up agains gun owner n our rights! nra should show support to the lady who visited the wtc memorial with ccw. she might have made a mistake but she was not dangerous!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tommy3rd 132 Posted December 31, 2011 From the post article: After she was busted, police found a white substance in her purse Anyone have any more detail on that one? whatever it was, it wasn't an illegal substance. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bry@n 195 Posted December 31, 2011 Goody's is good stuff. My friends wife used it all the time and he could only find it in a rite aid. Before rite aid opened in SI, he would ask us to buy 2-3 boxes every time we pass a rite aid. lol I wonder if we could donate to her defense? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeklog 7 Posted December 31, 2011 somebody said, did plaxico b sentence time when he shot himself in the foot at a new york nightclub? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pizza Bob 1,488 Posted December 31, 2011 somebody said, did plaxico b sentence time when he shot himself in the foot at a new york nightclub? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tommy3rd 132 Posted December 31, 2011 They're right. All CCW holders are dangerous! the safest CCW holders are the ones from jersey. all 5 of them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gunforhire 826 Posted December 31, 2011 Goody's is good stuff. My friends wife used it all the time and he could only find it in a rite aid. Before rite aid opened in SI, he would ask us to buy 2-3 boxes every time we pass a rite aid. lol I wonder if we could donate to her defense? NJ2AS is setting up a fund now! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gunforhire 826 Posted December 31, 2011 NJ2AS is setting up a fund now! http://www.facebook.com/groups/268094923250711/?notif_t=group_activity Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Malsua 1,422 Posted December 31, 2011 A thought to ponder from this quote - “Clearly, the laws are too strict here, but that’s something we need to work out for ourselves without honoring licenses to carry guns in states where felons can carry them,” (Vallone) said. Where in the US can felons carry guns? This is the type of uneducated crap we have to fight. I think they twist into this one in two ways. First, in some states, it is possible for Felons to have their rights restored, hence, someone convicted of a felony could carry a gun. Second, they claim that someone _accused_ of a felony will not have his license revoked until he's actually convicted of the felony. I guess in NY, if you are arrested for a felony, you immediately lose all your rights? But let's go ahead and state what this is really about. It's about getting a headline out there. "Florida allows felons to carry guns". That's all that really matters to them. That the statement is false really has no bearing on the situation. 99% of people will hear the lie and parrot it. "Bawwk, did you hear, Florida, allows felons to carry guns, Bawwk., where is the vote democrat button..bawwk". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crackaloon 15 Posted December 31, 2011 The first thing that pops in my mind reading that story is, "One time at band camp." Hundreds of thousands of CCW holders and they have to dig to China to find examples of bad behavior. How many people were mugged in NYC this year? I'll bet it wouldn't take too much research to figure out how many had CCW permits. How about how many shootings in NYC this year were commited by CCW holders? It's a shame that the owners of the NYTimes couldn't have kids that take over the business AND possess normal functioning brains. People in Tennessee think of NYC as a dangerous place where criminals have guns. I'm not sure it's far from the truth either. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Soju 153 Posted December 31, 2011 “Clearly, the laws are too strict here, but that's something we need to work out for ourselves without honoring licenses to carry guns in states where felons can carry them,” I love this quote. I love it. It starts off with an admittance of them having stupid laws. I am sure it is one that the classic "uhh, I didn't mean that, you are taking it out of context, blahblahblah" response it will get. But it gets better. It was stated because of his OWN lie. So he admits something I am sure he didn't want to, in justification for something that isn't even true to begin with, in order to push an agenda. Good work! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gunforhire 826 Posted January 1, 2012 I love this quote. I love it. It starts off with an admittance of them having stupid laws. I am sure it is one that the classic "uhh, I didn't mean that, you are taking it out of context, blahblahblah" response it will get. But it gets better. It was stated because of his OWN lie. So he admits something I am sure he didn't want to, in justification for something that isn't even true to begin with, in order to push an agenda. Good work! This had to Give King Mike a mini Stroke! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
