svt3183 14 Posted September 21, 2013 searching around i see there are tools available to help with carbon removal on the bolt tail and inside the bolt carrier. does anyone recommend a particular product they use for this? I was looking at the KZ CRT, Magna-Matic CRT-15, Otis B.O.N.E., etc. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rightisright 3 Posted September 21, 2013 A cheap ultrasonic cleaner works great. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iCARRY 0 Posted September 21, 2013 A cheap ultrasonic cleaner works great.Are you just using water or some other cleaning agent? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ogfarmer 138 Posted September 21, 2013 water and a little simple green works great in the $80 ultra sonic cleaning from Harbor freight http://www.harborfreight.com/25-liter-ultrasonic-cleaner-95563.html I got one of these with the 25% off coupon http://www.savings.com/printable/2173908-deal.html?sid=867363296-5-275197364713 exp 9/30 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Artyguy 0 Posted September 21, 2013 Cleaning rod, wire brush, ap brush, clp, and if you want it "inspection" clean; q tips, rags, and small pipe cleaners. Almost forgot: a knife or similar sharp object to scrape carbon off the bolt. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GRIZ 3,369 Posted September 21, 2013 Cleaning rod, wire brush, ap brush, clp, and if you want it "inspection" clean; q tips, rags, and small pipe cleaners. Almost forgot: a knife or similar sharp object to scrape carbon off the bolt. Those things have worked for me for over 45 years of shooting ARs, M16s, and M4s. There really isn't a need for a "special tool" for everything. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
svt3183 14 Posted September 21, 2013 Those things have worked for me for over 45 years of shooting ARs, M16s, and M4s. There really isn't a need for a "special tool" for everything. I am new too shooting AR's and have never had trouble removing carbon from any gun like I am having on the AR bolt tail. Soaking and wire brush aren't making a dent, that is what started my search. I did just get a bottle of CLP so maybe that will help. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rightisright 3 Posted September 21, 2013 Are you just using water or some other cleaning agent? Water and a drop of Dawn. Or Simple Green. Or whatever else is around. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zerosignal 1 Posted September 21, 2013 searching around i see there are tools available to help with carbon removal on the bolt tail and inside the bolt carrier. does anyone recommend a particular product they use for this? I was looking at the KZ CRT, Magna-Matic CRT-15, Otis B.O.N.E., etc.CATM4 tool Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GRIZ 3,369 Posted September 21, 2013 I am new too shooting AR's and have never had trouble removing carbon from any gun like I am having on the AR bolt tail. Soaking and wire brush aren't making a dent, that is what started my search. I did just get a bottle of CLP so maybe that will help. Hoppes or carb cleaner will remove the carbon easier. A brass key also makes a good scraper. If you scrape some of the carbon off first you give the solvent more surface area to work on. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mge_1 2 Posted September 22, 2013 water and a little simple green works great in the $80 ultra sonic cleaning from Harbor freight http://www.harborfreight.com/25-liter-ultrasonic-cleaner-95563.html I got one of these with the 25% off coupon http://www.savings.com/printable/2173908-deal.html?sid=867363296-5-275197364713 exp 9/30 Might get one of these... Thanks for the coupon link. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lalo 13 Posted September 23, 2013 CATM4 tool +1 Very useful tool. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Artyguy 0 Posted September 25, 2013 I am new too shooting AR's and have never had trouble removing carbon from any gun like I am having on the AR bolt tail. Soaking and wire brush aren't making a dent, that is what started my search. I did just get a bottle of CLP so maybe that will help. The carbon on the bolt tail is easily removed with a knife or any other sharp object. I used a small pocket knife when I was in the service to do that job. If there was a lot of carbon build up on that part of the bolt, I would scrape as much off as I could then soak it in clp while I cleaned the rest of the rifle. I remember when they issued us Otis cleaning kits, hated it so much. All that extra stuff and I used maybe a quarter of the tools. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,667 Posted September 26, 2013 Just FYI, Carbon on the bolt tail is no big deal and you can actually do more damage to the bolt cleaning it too enthusiastically than the carbon itself will ever do. A quick spritz of some of the cleaner of your choice and a wipe with a rag relatively soon after shooting will suffice for function and reliability purposes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YellowMinion 0 Posted September 26, 2013 CATM4 tool I sir do agree. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bhunted 887 Posted September 26, 2013 Add dental tools to your list. They are great for fine areas in a lot of tight areas too. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A-Tech 8 Posted September 26, 2013 I use nothing but my MultiTasker Series 2x on my rifle. One stop, do-all tool. HE, as usual, is spot on. When it gets excessive I just give it a few scratches and be done with it. Don't go crazy back there... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smoke Eater 0 Posted September 26, 2013 Dremel brass wheel... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vlad G 345 Posted September 26, 2013 An empty .308 case makes a fine scraper and being brass you won't damage much. Also, not that important to keep clean as people make it out to be. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
raz-0 1,259 Posted September 26, 2013 I sir do agree. I have one, and it is a great idea, but the tolerances on the bit used to clean the tail of the bolt seem a bit lacking. I'm probably going ot pick up an OTIS BONE to try it out.. The design looks machined rather than cast, and it is cheaper. $16 from some vendors on amazon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A-Tech 8 Posted October 1, 2013 Dremel brass wheel... I've seen a guy take a coating right off a bolt carrier that way...no reason to rush with power tools. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smoke Eater 0 Posted October 1, 2013 Never had an issue.. i use my dremel to clean alot Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A-Tech 8 Posted October 1, 2013 Never had an issue.. i use my dremel to clean alot I've never had an issue NOT using a dremmel Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smoke Eater 0 Posted October 1, 2013 Good for you. I guess if you dont do things ur way , it must be the wrong way Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vlad G 345 Posted October 1, 2013 Gunsmiths love it when people use dremels. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A-Tech 8 Posted October 1, 2013 Good for you. I guess if you dont do things ur way , it must be the wrong wayNo if I did things your way, it would be the wrong way lol. I've seen plenty of positive ways to clean a firearm, not one of them includes power tool. I would be surprised to see a single person here agree with you on that one. Vlad had it right about gun smiths too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smoke Eater 0 Posted October 2, 2013 No if I did things your way, it would be the wrong way lol. I've seen plenty of positive ways to clean a firearm, not one of them includes power tool. I would be surprised to see a single person here agree with you on that one. Vlad had it right about gun smiths too. Oh well.. never had an issue.. obviously your not open to new ideas. 5k rmps on a brass wheel is just enough to knock off tough carbon.no finish loss at all.. no removal of metal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,667 Posted October 2, 2013 I am open to new ideas when they work better and faster than the way I am doing things currently. When I can clean my bolt to a satisfactiry condition without any risk of damage to my parts and reassemble my rifle by the time you have chucked up the Dremel, that is ineffecient and not a new idea worth adopting. IMO I have seen more weapons damaged by over-enthusiastic cleaning than by leaving them a little bit dirty, just sayin' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
raz-0 1,259 Posted October 3, 2013 had some cash left on a gift card, so an otis BONE is on the way. I'll post a comparison of that vs the CAT-M4 tool when I get it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
olderguy 0 Posted October 24, 2013 water and a little simple green works great in the $80 ultra sonic cleaning from Harbor freight http://www.harborfreight.com/25-liter-ultrasonic-cleaner-95563.html I got one of these with the 25% off coupon http://www.savings.com/printable/2173908-deal.html?sid=867363296-5-275197364713 exp 9/30 Got one of these and just started using it. For a test I put my Glock barrel in for a few minutes and didn't notice that much of the crude was removed from the ramp area. How long do you normally run it to accomplish anything? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites