My Rant of the day on mag limits bill A2006/S993

[DaveR 42]

It seems to LEO who would be restricted to 15 rounds if this is signed into law are not going to be happy. Perhaps we have a common cause. Would love to see LEO's as well bitch to Christie

 

The law does not apply to LEO, as always they are exempt.

 

The police unions would kill any law that would put their members at risk.

Do they not also carry hollow points?

Use cell phones while driving?

Treat red lights and speed limits as suggestions?

Never mind, I'm ranting again...

[CMJeepster 2,778]

Time to start calling, faxing and emailing the gov. 

Got a direct email address?  I don't want to fill out the form on his webpage and have it go to the wrong place.

[msokad 3]

I've never been able to locate a direct email address for CC.

 

Sent from my Galaxy S4

 

 

[CMJeepster 2,778]

My comments don't seem to fit in any of the drop-down boxes for sub-heading.  I wish I had a direct address.

[CMJeepster 2,778]

Here's a link for those who are interested. Be prepared to wade through a lot of BS:

 

http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/media/archive_audio2.asp?KEY=S&SESSION=2014

 

Click on "VIEW"

 

 

Not to mention having to listen to Sweeney ...

Start at around 25:10

[CMJeepster 2,778]

"When that legal gun owner..."

 

Didn't he shoot and kill his mother to get to the guns?

 

"...using his mother's Bushmaster XM15-E2S rifle..."  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Hook_shooting

[CMJeepster 2,778]

"When we pass gun controls laws, we tend to pass laws that burden the people we don't have to worry about." - Sen. Cardinale

[CMJeepster 2,778]

"Gun control favors criminals and disfavors criminals in our society." - Sen. Cardinale

[CMJeepster 2,778]

"The bill will make illegal the Henry Rifle, the standard of the U.S. Calvary..."  Sen. Gordon

 

Don't forget that they're made in NJ, dude.

[CMJeepster 2,778]

Sen. Doherty spoke in our favor.  (U.S. Army Veteran)  Tried to explain the magazine change procedure and how fast it can be.  Pointed out how Lanza broke dozens of laws, including KILLING HIS OWN MOTHER."  Pointed out self-defense angle, including Georgia mom who hade to shoot an intruder.

[CMJeepster 2,778]

"We have a lot of gun collectors in my district (28th) who value their guns; they're called Bloods, Crips, Latin Kings..." - Sen. Rice (USMC, retired).  "I'm going to support this, but I'm going to ask the chairs to take a long-term, wholistic approach to address the problems or we're going to keep coming back here to talk about the Columbine-level stuff...  This is not going to make the level of difference that we need."

 

[CMJeepster 2,778]

Sen. Singer (30th) "We should be focusing on the mental health issue...  It wasn't the gun, it was the person!"

[CMJeepster 2,778]

Sen. Cardinale - "We should look at what works in other places, like "carry." "

[CMJeepster 2,778]

Overall I feel so outraged at the senators that just back this stuff even though they don't believe in it.  Do they feel that Christie will veto it?  Probably.  Then why be a robot and stick to party lines?  Pathetic.  Really pathetic.

[intercooler 41]

Nj is a microcosm of what is wrong with our system. There are no moderates.. Only party line toters. They vote on party rather than information. This state is lost

[DaveR 42]

Sen. Cardinale - "We should look at what works in other places, like "carry." "

Ran into him Sat morning at a Bergen County Republican Organization fund raising breakfast.

One of his major points was that the problem is that majority of people aren't voting.

If we all get out and vote change will happen. But too many people just sit home thinking their vote does not count or just lie and say that they did vote.

He did mention that people in his own organization said they voted, but the polling records show another story.

 

Just look at how poor turnout is for non presidential elections.

 

http://www.state.nj.us/state/elections/election-information-archive.html

 

I keep working on just getting like minded people to get out and vote.

If you don't vote you don't have a right to complain.

[Zeke 5,504]

Ran into him Sat morning at a Bergen County Republican Organization fund raising breakfast.

One of his major points was that the problem is that majority of people aren't voting.

If we all get out and vote change will happen. But too many people just sit home thinking their vote does not count or just lie and say that they did vote.

He did mention that people in his own organization said they voted, but the polling records show another story.

 

Just look at how poor turnout is for non presidential elections.

 

http://www.state.nj.us/state/elections/election-information-archive.html

 

I keep working on just getting like minded people to get out and vote.

If you don't vote you don't have a right to complain.

Rock the vote bitches!

[intercooler 41]

I got the voter records before I was re elected....he is right, the ones that claim to vote...usually don't. you need to pay attention to the ones that do and convince the others they have to 

[bhunted 887]

Ran into him Sat morning at a Bergen County Republican Organization fund raising breakfast.

One of his major points was that the problem is that majority of people aren't voting.

If we all get out and vote change will happen. But too many people just sit home thinking their vote does not count or just lie and say that they did vote.

He did mention that people in his own organization said they voted, but the polling records show another story.

 

Just look at how poor turnout is for non presidential elections.

 

http://www.state.nj.us/state/elections/election-information-archive.html

 

I keep working on just getting like minded people to get out and vote.

If you don't vote you don't have a right to complain.

You have this problem no matter what the issues are. People either just don't give a fook or are just too lazy. Another problem like in my town, 48% living here are renters. They are the biggest culprits.

 

 

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[Barms 98]

Have we not heard a peep from the Henry Company on this ?

[JackDaWack 2,895]

I'll just leave this here:

 

http://www.nj.com/bergen/index.ssf/2014/05/police_four_arrested_after_paramus_home_invasion_chase.html#incart_river_default

 

guy was lucky all he got was tied up...Invaders were lucky it wasn't my house where the sound of broken glass is welcomed with an Ar-15.

[CMJeepster 2,778]

Hmmm... Four intruders? Let's do the math.

 

10 rounds = 2.5 rounds each x 50% hit rate* = 1.25 rounds per intruder.

 

15 rounds = 3.75 rounds each x 50% hit rate* = 1.875 rounds per intruder.

 

 

*Assume under severe distress and poor to moderate marksmanship.

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Anyone gonna turn in or block your home defense magazines?

[DaveR 42]

I'll just leave this here:

 

http://www.nj.com/bergen/index.ssf/2014/05/police_four_arrested_after_paramus_home_invasion_chase.html#incart_river_default

 

guy was lucky all he got was tied up...Invaders were lucky it wasn't my house where the sound of broken glass is welcomed with an Ar-15.

 

Glad that was not my house in Paramus while I was home. I'd hate to think potential nightmare if things went bad. Although it could answer the question of hollow points...

[Newtonian 453]

Ran into him Sat morning at a Bergen County Republican Organization fund raising breakfast.

One of his major points was that the problem is that majority of people aren't voting.

If we all get out and vote change will happen. But too many people just sit home thinking their vote does not count or just lie and say that they did vote.

He did mention that people in his own organization said they voted, but the polling records show another story.

 

Just look at how poor turnout is for non presidential elections.

 

http://www.state.nj.us/state/elections/election-information-archive.html

 

I keep working on just getting like minded people to get out and vote.

If you don't vote you don't have a right to complain.

I have been yelling and screaming about voting for a couple of months now. There are at least 6-7 competitive districts in this state. 1 million gun owners. 1.3 friendly votes (conservative) for each gun owner. Participation rate of about 30%. We could easily take back those competitive districts if we all just voted and brought our significant others to the polls.

 

Case: Our municipal election on Tuesday drew about 500 voters, out of about 3000 eligible. One very deserving candidate lost by 9 votes. Pathetic.

 

I've been thinking of doing this through the gun shops, which will be out of business if the smart handgun law ever kicks in. This is do-able. Emailing those idiots in Trenton and yelling at them during testimony has been shown over and over not to work. We have not changed a single democrat vote to my knowledge. Yet our leaders keep urging us to waste our time on those feelgood activities. 

 

VOTE

[BlueLineFish 615]

Voter turnout is a huge problem. What could help us is if we all vote while the others don't then it makes a bigger difference. My. Town has over 60000 people andnless than a 1/4 actually voted. Its really pathetic

[DaveR 42]

And NJ allows vote by mail, no reason needed, there are no excuses not to vote if registered.

[Silence Dogood 468]

The Democrats in our district actually go into the NURSING HOMES to get out the vote among the elderly.   They're so entrenched in NJ it isn't funny.

[Jeff 13]

The Democrats in our district actually go into the NURSING HOMES to get out the vote among the elderly. They're so entrenched in NJ it isn't funny.

So why can't we do the same? Target a vulnerable politician, preferably one who sponsors these BS bills, and get older conservative voters (veterans maybe) and bus them to the polls. I'd contribute to that effort.

 

Why isn't NJ2AS doing something like that? Instead of busing people to Trenton.

[Newtonian 453]

So why can't we do the same? Target a vulnerable politician, preferably one who sponsors these BS bills, and get older conservative voters (veterans maybe) and bus them to the polls. I'd contribute to that effort.

 

Why isn't NJ2AS doing something like that? Instead of busing people to Trenton.

Because taking a trip down the Turnpike to yell and scream looks more like we're doing something when in reality all we're doing is losing time that could be better spent on almost anything else. We need to organize the vote for the next legislative elections, and target vulnerable districts, through gun shops, ranges, and other sports-related outlets.

 

This is what happened in my town two days ago:

  Voter apathy in Newton

Posted: May 14, 2014 10:55 PM EDTUpdated: May 14, 2014 10:59 PM EDT

Fifteen percent voter turnout for a primary election is bad enough. For what amounts to a town’s general election, such a turnout is deplorable.

Of 4,715 registered voters in Newton, only 717 turned out Tuesday to choose from among six candidates for three seats to the town’s five-member council.

....

This is not apathy, it's abdication. Shame on all the complainers and whiners.

 

This took me an entire five minute detour on my way to ShopRite:

 

 

 

Voting is the only weapon we have.

 

 

 

 

[Howard 538]

Actually what we all need to do is register as Democrats and then vote in the Democrat primary for a loser candidate so our real candidate has no chance to lose in the general election!  With under 20% voter turnout for primaries we could actually have an impact that way.