Legal self defense ammo?

[Damjan 73]

Might be a dumb question, but what if there are 2+ bad doods. Or you are hit out of nowhere and miss the shot for some reason?

 

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[PK90 3,573]

 

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[Lambo2936 297]

...oh.... hahaha.

[n4p226r 105]

Transport HP ammo as you would a handgun!

With the exemption being between residences.

[n4p226r 105]

What the FBI uses:

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/fbi-moves-back-to-the-9mm-round-which-it-once-shunned-as-ineffective/2015/10/31/d7d0b994-7e80-11e5-afce-2afd1d3eb896_story.html

http://www.policemag.com/channel/weapons/news/2015/11/02/fbi-going-back-to-9mm-ammunition.aspx

Just make sure not to get the original factory rejects. I think they come in a different box or a bulk bag though.

[SmittyMHS 603]

OK.. Don't yell at me for bringing this up again, and I didn't want to start another thread, but I just had a conversation with an old friend about HP use here in PRNJ. He said you can't use them for HD. I said you can and remembered this discussion. Well I just read and reread N.J.S.A 2C:39-3f and I just don't see where it says anything about use for HD. Is there something in the wording I'm missing?

[Krdshrk 3,878]

It doesn't have to be mentioned to be allowed...  

[SmittyMHS 603]

This state sux. Did I mention that before?

How are you suppose to understand laws written, or in this case NOT written, like that? I know my buddy wont except that as an answer but I'll act like hes the dummy.

That might work. He lives here too...after all.

[mipafox 438]

With the exemption being between residences.

when moving.

 

You can't simply take a handgun between residences. Only when moving.

[Old Glock guy 1,127]

OK.. Don't yell at me for bringing this up again, and I didn't want to start another thread, but I just had a conversation with an old friend about HP use here in PRNJ. He said you can't use them for HD. I said you can and remembered this discussion. Well I just read and reread N.J.S.A 2C:39-3f and I just don't see where it says anything about use for HD. Is there something in the wording I'm missing?

Laws don't give us permission to do things, they tell us what we can't do. If there's no law against something, then it's legal.

[SmittyMHS 603]

Laws don't give us permission to do things, they tell us what we can't do. If there's no law against something, then it's legal.

Thats as good an explanation as any. Gotta remember that one.

I should have read a few more responses down from the N.J.S.A 2C:39-3f post. I might have remember. Oh well, I can blame it on me getting so old I guess....

 now what were we talking about again???

[PK90 3,573]

I took a dump every morning when I was in NJ. Was THAT in the laws?

 

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[Krdshrk 3,878]

I took a dump every morning when I was in NJ. Was THAT in the laws?

 

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EVERY?  man that Metamucil works wonders for regularity...

[Purple Patrick 638]

You guys don't poop everyday? I'm usually a two a dayer

 

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[Darrenf 422]

You guys don't poop everyday? I'm usually a two a dayer

 

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If you're married, you go at LEAST once a day!

[SmittyMHS 603]

If you're married, you go at LEAST once a day!

Just for some piece and quiet

[mipafox 438]

Possession is explicitly illegal with exceptions provided. Jersey law does indeed state what you can do, and all else is illegal.

[Schrödinger's cat 87]

Possession is explicitly illegal with exceptions provided. Jersey law does indeed state what you can do, and all else is illegal.

Just to clarify to someone that stumbles across this thread in a few months, Mipa doesn't mean to say that using HP for home defense is illegal. He is making a point about the posts that everything is legal unless it's made illegal.

[mipafox 438]

Correct, thank you.

[bootman 5]

Sorry for bumping up an old thread but this topic came up in a welcome post.

I'm a US Law Shield member and I posted this question on their forum.

Since Nappen's law firm is affiliated with them (and who you get when you need help by using the service in NJ) I'll trust the answer they give as being definitive.

 

https://forum.texaslawshield.com/index.php/topic,2446.0.html

 

They did answer.

There is no prohibition on lawful use of JHPs in one’s home.

 

So if the discharge at home is legal, using JHP in that discharge at home is also legal.

This is the the same as shooting JHP at a range or while hunting. Which is legal to do so in NJ.

 

Al

 

[NickySantoro 211]

FWIW, if a body is not found in your home, how are you involved? The pig shit and fraidy scared little flits here are going to have trouble dealing with this, but reality is what it is. If you did the right thing, why would you let a hoplophobic prosecutor make his bones on you? Here in New Jerkoff, that is exactly what will happen.

[bootman 5]

2 hours ago, NickySantoro said:

FWIW, if a body is not found in your home, how are you involved? The pig shit and fraidy scared little flits here are going to have trouble dealing with this, but reality is what it is. If you did the right thing, why would you let a hoplophobic prosecutor make his bones on you? Here in New Jerkoff, that is exactly what will happen.

This is why I'm a member of US Law Shield. Better to have pro gun lawyers watching your back in a state like this when the time comes to use your firearm outside the range.