Folding Stock = No | Folding Rifle?

[Alex V 99]

We all know that a side folding stock is a no-go on a semi auto firearm in NJ, so what if we fold the whole rifle in half?

I have to say, this looks super silly, but it interesting none the less. 

https://www.fddefense.com/rifles/xar/

If discussed before, I apologize. 

Edited May 30, 2017 by Alex V

[leadunderpressure 52]

The keltec sub 2k rifles (original version) looked like that and were good to go in NJ.

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[Krdshrk 3,877]

I would say that would be ok as long as the stock is fixed.  It can't fire from the folded position so you should be good to go.  

[GRIZ 3,369]

19 minutes ago, Krdshrk said:

I would say that would be ok as long as the stock is fixed.  It can't fire from the folded position so you should be good to go.  

I agree.  This is like the Kel Tec Sub 2000.

A folding or collapsible stock makes the rifle shorter but it can still be fired.  This with a fixed stock or the Kel Tec can't be fired when folded.

[JT Custom Guns 957]

A 'Folding Rifle" is legal in NJ as long as it (rifle) meets the other criteria to not

be considered an assault rifle.

Also - I folding stock is not automaticly banned in NJ

If you have a Semi-Auto rifle that DOES NOT have a detachable mag - you can have a folding stock

If you have a Semi-Auto rifle with a detachable mag, but has no other "Evil Features" except the folding

stock, then it is acceptable.

If you have a Bolt action rifle (ie: Ruger Precision) then the Folding stock is legal

 

[Alex V 99]

11 minutes ago, JT Custom Guns said:

A 'Folding Rifle" is legal in NJ as long as it (rifle) meets the other criteria to not

be considered an assault rifle.

Also - I folding stock is not automaticly banned in NJ

If you have a Semi-Auto rifle that DOES NOT have a detachable mag - you can have a folding stock

If you have a Semi-Auto rifle with a detachable mag, but has no other "Evil Features" except the folding

stock, then it is acceptable.

If you have a Bolt action rifle (ie: Ruger Precision) then the Folding stock is legal

 

Right, I know the folding stock stuff.  I was making a gross generalization but you are right to clarify.  

 

Totally forgot about the Sub2000 rifles, just thought this was a goofy yet novel idea.  I have no interest in buying one, just thought it was fun.

[GRIZ 3,369]

18 minutes ago, Alex V said:

Right, I know the folding stock stuff.  I was making a gross generalization but you are right to clarify.  

 

Totally forgot about the Sub2000 rifles, just thought this was a goofy yet novel idea.  I have no interest in buying one, just thought it was fun.

I wouldn't call it goofy.  If you need a rifle that breaks down to fit in the shortest possible case a folding rifle makes sense.  Most of these folding rifles fold down to 16" or a bit more, the length of the barrel.

[Walt of Destiny 412]

It's very cool. In the real world an SBR with a 10" barrel and a pdw stock it would be super cool. 300blk please. And oh, imagine a nice Recce 7 on the end. The NJ state senate in unison would shit themselves and run under their desks at the very thought of it.




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[Malice4you 627]

I've wanted a Sub2000 for years - since I first heard of the first generation.  It would seem to be an ideal trunk gun for a state where you can't carry a handgun.  The damn thing is tiny when folded.

This has my interest.  While a significantly wider package when folded vs a s2k, it offers a lot more capability overall.  I hope it can run on a standard lower and is relatively affordable.  I also hope they didn't use just aluminum where the hook latches on.  If it gets favorable reviews, it may be something I get.

Hopefully they make them in 14.x" barrels (and shorter for free state brethren) so it can made as short as possible while still being OK in restrictive states

[Ray Ray 3,566]

48 minutes ago, Malice4you said:

I've wanted a Sub2000 for years - since I first heard of the first generation.  It would seem to be an ideal trunk gun for a state where you can't carry a handgun.  

Not to shit in your cornflakes, but I thought the same thing.   So I bought one.  I dumped it.  They are junk.  I do not trust Kel-Tec products with my life.  Just get an AR in 9mm that takes Glock magazines.   You will thank me later.

[High Exposure 5,664]

1 hour ago, Ray Ray said:

Not to shit in your cornflakes, but I thought the same thing.   So I bought one.  I dumped it.  They are junk.  I do not trust Kel-Tec products with my life.  Just get an AR in 9mm that takes Glock magazines.   You will thank me later.

Wait wait wait....

Just yesterday in this thread:

You said:

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22 hours ago Ray Ray said:

Why are we shooting a pistol caliber carbine?  They make almost zero sense.  Other than suppressor quiet, they have no advantage over a 556 or 300BLK AR type.

[High Exposure 5,664]

@Ray Ray

So now you changed your mind and there is a purpose for PCCs?

 

[Ray Ray 3,566]

The dude wants a Kel-Tec, so I suggested a 9mm AR.  

I'm going on what the dude wants, a pistol caliber carbine.  

[Ray Ray 3,566]

When I said "you'll thank me later".  I meant that Kel-Tec is sub par.  Not that the 9mm AR is the best gun in the world.

[vladtepes 1,060]

I am not sure why.. but an AR that folds in that way makes me very nervous.. LOL it just appears to be a bad section of the gun to be held together by a clip.. 

[fatty 241]

Imagine all the crap that can get into the chamber, being wide open at the most critical point in a closed-system rifle.

 

 

 

[Rob0115 1,105]

What's the point of this?   Easier transport?  Woo hoo. 

[Alex V 99]

13 hours ago, fatty said:

Imagine all the crap that can get into the chamber, being wide open at the most critical point in a closed-system rifle.

 

 

 

would make cleaning easier lol