Frankie Raffaele

Best double-up hearing protection combo?

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36 minutes ago, 124gr9mm said:

How long ago did this happen?

If you had a (successful) hearing test and the Dr (not nurse) saw no tear in the eardrum then I'm not really sure what you're looking for.

 

It happened last wednesday, so yesterday was 1 week. I guess if this ENT today says the same thing that the Dr. said yesterday - that it's actually normal for it to still have ringing/dullness and that it will go away and that there's no permanent damage - I will be satisfied and just have to wait until it goes away.

I know I'm really bugging out over this but it is very important to me as I am an audio engineer and listening to loud music and having to analyze/hear it clearly is a daily part of the job. Luckily I'm off work for another month and a half because I'm finishing up my last semester in college and completing an internship, but if I had to go to work right now it'd be a problem. Snare drums, hi-hats, etc. (higher frequency sounds) don't get picked up as well by my left ear at the moment. Even running the shower sounds funny and becomes slightly louder depending on whether I'm facing it or not.

Didn't mention that in the original post because I know how many people will call out my stupidity being that my ears are a vital part of my career. If the doctor was right, however, I have nothing to worry about - just wait til it goes away and freakin' quadruple up on ear protection from now on! lol

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On 2/14/2018 at 0:01 AM, 9thMarines said:

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1 hour ago, Frankie Raffaele said:

that it's actually normal for it to still have ringing/dullness and that it will go away and that there's no permanent damage

While the current severity of your hearing loss may not be permanent, the damage (to some extent) is.  Hearing loss is cumulative and irreversible.  You can permanently loose it all at once or a little at a time.  With single layer earpro on all the time on the firing line, we loose a tiny bit of hearing every trip to the range.  While you may temporarily loose all your hearing for hours, or even days, it will never be 100% when it returns.

The generally accepted sound level for hearing loss starts at 85db.  Normal speech is around 60db, a typical 20" push lawn mower puts out about 80db and a back pack leaf blower puts out around 115db.  A 22lr rifle spits out 140db and a 30-06 will hammer your eardrums at 165 db.

Pro grade ear muffs reduce levels (on average) by 30db, and plugs underneath add an additional 30 or so db reduction.  -60 db is pretty impressive, it can completely muffle out the noise of a nagging wife,  but is still inadequate for 100% protection when firing a .308 that cranks out 163db or even .223/5.56 round that claps out 160db.  Doubled up, you are still experiencing a 100 db or more hit to the drums.

There is no question that double protection is essential to preserving as much hearing as possible.  Especially if you are in the habit of popping off a hundred rounds or more a week.

 

 

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On 2/13/2018 at 1:18 PM, Frankie Raffaele said:

How about these since they are a little less bulky? Will this, along with foam ear plugs, provide adequate protection?

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B06VWM97KK/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A2L0ZJ7LC1E2CT&psc=1

Those plus 32NRR foamies were what I used when I was still willing to RO open guns indoors. 

As fro the ringing, look up tinitus. I've got a bit of it from concerts, but I can still ace the hearing test. It does not preclude being able to detect high frequencies, especially if you had exceptionally good hearing in the high range to start. They only care about a certain range, and what and how much they care about depends on your age. For example, a certtain amount of hearing loss is expected in the left ear due to driving with open windows. They may ignore some of that if you are say... 50, unless they consider it abnormal or debilitating. 

Not sure what you mean by you sounding like talk on a broken radio to yourself, but I hear myself just fine. I also don't have severe tinitus though so can't speak for that. 

Also, doctors have to see an insane number of patients. If something is bugging you speak up and be specific. Ask the question "Hey doc, how can my hearing test be fine when I clearly have issues hearing the high frequencies I'm used to in one ear?" They aren't going to lead you to water and make you drink it. They are relying on you to bitch about what is bugging you. 

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7 minutes ago, raz-0 said:

Also, doctors have to see an insane number of patients. If something is bugging you speak up and be specific.

Also the doctors that work for the large conglomerates are limited in how much time they can spend with each patient. Trying a doctor that is in a standalone or small group practice might be better.

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Just saw the second ENT. he said there's really no way to know. As of now theres a 10 decibel difference in the 4000's range between my left and right ears. As an audio engineer I know 10 decibels is a lot. I didn't do damage to my eardrum but he says theres no way to tell if I damaged the fine hairs in my cochlea, which I'm assuming I did since that's probably why hearing myself talk loud sounds like a broken radio. All i can do is wait a few weeks and see if it goes away. Wish me luck guys

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18 hours ago, Zeke said:

Joke

oh! lol i get it, sorry

 

anyways fellas, the ringing seems to have gone down very slightly, i'm a week and a half in. maybe even the dullness has gotten slightly better too. The first few days I was stupidly testing music at different volumes in my car to see how much it takes to irritate it - not doing that anymore seems to have made a little bit of a difference. Plus im taking lipo-flavinoid and ginkgo baloba.

Also I had a bit of a cough when this first happened and I think coughing makes the ringing louder.

I just want the sensitivity to go away! hearing myself talk at a certain volume or if someone is talking too loud makes it buzz in that ear. Not painful just annoying. i guess that will go away as it heals - i think it's gotten a little less sensitive in the last few days

 

sucks, I just picked up a P99 and I'm about to grab a Stag Retro 15 on sale but I won't be going to the range for a few months :(

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11 hours ago, Frankie Raffaele said:

oh! lol i get it, sorry

 

anyways fellas, the ringing seems to have gone down very slightly, i'm a week and a half in. maybe even the dullness has gotten slightly better too. The first few days I was stupidly testing music at different volumes in my car to see how much it takes to irritate it - not doing that anymore seems to have made a little bit of a difference. Plus im taking lipo-flavinoid and ginkgo baloba.

Also I had a bit of a cough when this first happened and I think coughing makes the ringing louder.

I just want the sensitivity to go away! hearing myself talk at a certain volume or if someone is talking too loud makes it buzz in that ear. Not painful just annoying. i guess that will go away as it heals - i think it's gotten a little less sensitive in the last few days

 

sucks, I just picked up a P99 and I'm about to grab a Stag Retro 15 on sale but I won't be going to the range for a few months :(

I couldn't hear you, say again?

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