DAHL 59 Posted July 21, 2023 34 minutes ago, Annie said: Okay thanks. So if I get a cc permit I can go anywhere that doesn't specifically say (either verbally or on a sign) I can't go there with a firearm? Basically gov't buildings and state owned property are off limits. You also cannot carry to a place that serves alcoholic beverages. You can carry in your car, to the grocery store, in restaurants that do not served alcohol, fast food places, department stores, on the street and on private property. You just cannot enter residences without permission. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walkinguf61 40 Posted July 21, 2023 37 minutes ago, DAHL said: Basically gov't buildings and state owned property are off limits. You also cannot carry to a place that serves alcoholic beverages. You can carry in your car, to the grocery store, in restaurants that do not served alcohol, fast food places, department stores, on the street and on private property. You just cannot enter residences without permission. I thought the TRO was against the need for affirmative permission to enter private property. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrumpyOldRetiree 38 Posted July 21, 2023 19 hours ago, 1LtCAP said: while my travel circle is small, i have yet to go into a store that has signage saying i can't carry. nor have i had any friends neighbors or relatives ask me to disarm before entering their property...... In my travels, I've only encountered 1 store (a T-Mobile company store) that had a sign prohibited firearms. Trader Joe's does have a sign prohibiting ILLEGAL firearms. Slightly off-topic: Did anyone notice that Home Depot stores now have armed security/loss prevention guards near the registers? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
g17owner 137 Posted July 21, 2023 9 minutes ago, GrumpyOldRetiree said: In my travels, I've only encountered 1 store (a T-Mobile company store) that had a sign prohibited firearms. Trader Joe's does have a sign prohibiting ILLEGAL firearms. Slightly off-topic: Did anyone notice that Home Depot stores now have armed security/loss prevention guards near the registers? Which location(s)? Ive never seen this in Dover or Ledgewood Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1LtCAP 4,264 Posted July 21, 2023 i haven't noticed that at lawnside Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrumpyOldRetiree 38 Posted July 21, 2023 2 hours ago, g17owner said: Which location(s)? Ive never seen this in Dover or Ledgewood I saw it in Bridgewater and my neighbor told me he saw it in South Plainfield. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xXxplosive 827 Posted July 21, 2023 7 minutes ago, GrumpyOldRetiree said: I saw it in Bridgewater and my neighbor told me he saw it in South Plainfield. which store in Bridgewater...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrumpyOldRetiree 38 Posted July 21, 2023 16 minutes ago, xXxplosive said: which store in Bridgewater...... Bordering Bound Brook. I didn't know there was more then one HD in Bridgewater. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xXxplosive 827 Posted July 21, 2023 that one is at the Prominade Mall next to Target....the other one is at Milltown on Rt. 202 Bridgewater. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fawkesguy 57 Posted July 25, 2023 Looks like online applications/renewals for carry permits has gone live: https://www.njportal.com/NJSP/ConcealedCarry/ 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tunaman 558 Posted July 26, 2023 No references for renewal? No prints needed for renewal? The way it should be. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
g17owner 137 Posted July 26, 2023 10 minutes ago, Tunaman said: No references for renewal? No prints needed for renewal? The way it should be. Almost. There shouldn't be a "renewal" needed. But all in all, good for NJ. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TuscanRaider 8 Posted July 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Tunaman said: No references for renewal? No prints needed for renewal? The way it should be. References are needed for renewal….prints no. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyB 4,328 Posted July 26, 2023 No references were contacted for my permit and a friend I was reference for said none of his were contacted either! It's all Bullshit! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
g17owner 137 Posted July 26, 2023 13 minutes ago, JohnnyB said: No references were contacted for my permit and a friend I was reference for said none of his were contacted either! It's all Bullshit! Before 12/22/2022 it was at the discretion of the PD as to whether or not they want to contact the references. I think the new law states they must be contacted in some manner. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyB 4,328 Posted July 26, 2023 9 minutes ago, g17owner said: Before 12/22/2022 it was at the discretion of the PD as to whether or not they want to contact the references. I think the new law states they must be contacted in some manner. I did not apply until June of 2023, nor did my friend! Before 12/22/2022 it was at the discretion of the courts, not the local CPD. No references were contacted! The state just wants to intimidate you to not apply in the first place! Some CPDs are pro 2A, some are not! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
g17owner 137 Posted July 26, 2023 1 minute ago, JohnnyB said: I did not apply until June of 2023, nor did my friend! Before 12/22/2022 it was at the discretion of the courts, not the local CPD. No references were contacted! The state just wants to intimidate you to not apply in the first place! Some CPDs are pro 2A, some are not! No doubt about the fact that they want to stop from applying or carrying. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrumpyOldRetiree 38 Posted July 26, 2023 10 hours ago, TuscanRaider said: References are needed for renewal….prints no. I don't see references mentioned in the renewal portion of the "What will I need instructions" See attached for screen print Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1LtCAP 4,264 Posted July 26, 2023 10 hours ago, JohnnyB said: No references were contacted for my permit and a friend I was reference for said none of his were contacted either! It's all Bullshit! my references were all contacted. they all called me when they were. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pjd832 146 Posted July 26, 2023 Looking through that link… there’s no tab for “renewal” just “start initial application” so seems like it’ll be the same as original process you guys did? also looking through it seems like the qualification is different that what my friend did with a state trooper instructor… unless I’m reading wrong… it’s out to 25 yards drawing and shooting from a knee, shooting from cover, shoot from a “point shoulder position” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrumpyOldRetiree 38 Posted July 26, 2023 6 minutes ago, 1LtCAP said: my references were all contacted. they all called me when they were. mine too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyB 4,328 Posted July 26, 2023 24 minutes ago, GrumpyOldRetiree said: mine too. I suppose it's up to your local PD as to how thoroughly they investigate your background. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tunaman 558 Posted July 26, 2023 1 hour ago, GrumpyOldRetiree said: I don't see references mentioned in the renewal portion of the "What will I need instructions" See attached for screen print This is what i saw also. Can they be THAT incompetent? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fawkesguy 57 Posted July 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, Tunaman said: This is what i saw also. Can they be THAT incompetent? Hopefully. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pjd832 146 Posted July 26, 2023 12 minutes ago, Tunaman said: This is what i saw also. Can they be THAT incompetent? But there’s no separate button for renewal application…. While I see the same “what will I need” … the only option to start an application is “initial” which will most likely walk you through all the “initial” requirements? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CMJeepster 2,780 Posted July 26, 2023 22 minutes ago, Tunaman said: Can they be THAT incompetent? Go see my earlier comments on the training & qualifications guidelines. I point out almost all of the typos in the 19 page document. Pathetic. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrumpyOldRetiree 38 Posted July 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Tunaman said: This is what i saw also. Can they be THAT incompetent? Ha, ha, ha...I assume that's a rhetorical question! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
45Doll 5,883 Posted July 26, 2023 Well that didn't take long. Email alert just came out. ANJRPC Suing To Overturn Carry Training Requirements - Association of New Jersey Rifle and Pistol Clubs 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DirtyDigz 1,812 Posted July 26, 2023 The motion to re-open the case in Bumb's court: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.njd.506033/gov.uscourts.njd.506033.131.1.pdf Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DirtyDigz 1,812 Posted July 26, 2023 Soooo....place yer bets. Will Bumb re-open the case and add the new quals to the enjoined stuff? If that happens, will NJ go running to 3rd Cir again to revise the emergency stay? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites