ronhonda 86 Posted October 15, 2010 This might affect several people here. http://www.bushmaster.com/pdf/ACR-Web-Notification.pdf Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,878 Posted October 15, 2010 Already? Yikes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bbk 188 Posted October 15, 2010 Wow, glad I didn't invest in one yet (plus the other issues I've heard about). Its too bad Remington won't really be offering their iteration any time in the presented future. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kenw 293 Posted October 15, 2010 Thanks for the info. Did a quick OCR and sent out an announcement to the mailing list. K Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shane45 807 Posted October 15, 2010 After MUCH debate between acr or scar, as much as I like the looks of the ACR I decided against it. One of the biggest turn offs is the apparent differences between the mil and civy ACR. Forget functionality, it PISSES me off. Its a peasent mentality I will never agree with. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DevsAdvocate 112 Posted October 15, 2010 After MUCH debate between acr or scar, as much as I like the looks of the ACR I decided against it. One of the biggest turn offs is the apparent differences between the mil and civy ACR. Forget functionality, it PISSES me off. Its a peasent mentality I will never agree with. What differences? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vjf915 456 Posted October 15, 2010 I do have to give them credit. They owned up to a problem, and are taking QUICK action to fix this at no cost to the owner. Stuff happens, but how they react to it is what shows me the kind of company they really are. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bbk 188 Posted October 15, 2010 I've heard something about them offering the aluminum receiver (the Remington/MIL version), but I'm sure that's just internet rumor. Still, you're right, Shane. What really gets under my skin is that the issues I've heard of are purely quality control issues, not even so much hardware. I've heard of bolts not being completely fastened, and those same bolts not having any type of redundant measures (like Loctite). And in another situation, Bushmaster QC people told a user who was having issues explicitly to never use 5.56 because the rifle was never designed for it. Whether it can or cannot run 5.56 is another argument. The fact that Bushmaster would go out of their way to say it and/or make a product, that was targeted to a pretty specific market, and knowingly screw said market is appalling... and then, of course, price the rifle for 2500+ (MSRP)?! I mean, lets be honest, the rifle isn't priced over 2K because its the best thing since sliced bread. If I wanted to overpay for something no where near its value, I would just buy a George Foreman Grill (and even then, those things can be useful). A realistic price would be around 1200, and most of that would be because of the barrel changing feature. If Remington released the actual hard-use version, sure, I could understand a $2000 price tag... but for what BM is offering? Its lunacy. ETA: Bushmaster (civilian version): http://www.bushmaster.com/acr/ Remington (military/LEO version): http://www.remingtonmilitary.com/RemingtonMilitary/Firearms/Carbines/ACR.aspx A lot of people are confused about why two different manufacturers (and then throw Magpul into the mix) are producing the ACR-- and its because Bushmaster is handling the civilian sales/versions, while Remington is handling the military/LEO sales (or that's what it boils down too). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shane45 807 Posted October 15, 2010 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2010/03/31/remington-acr-multiple-lower-receivers/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shane45 807 Posted October 15, 2010 Id give em credit too but damn that issue is something that could cost Cerberus millions if gone unchecked. Soooo I dont take this as an indication of good customer service. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DevsAdvocate 112 Posted October 15, 2010 I don't get it... Magpul should have licensed the design to multiple manufacturers. This way there would be more competition between them to create better quality, and also sort through teething issues quickly. Plus, they coulda made a ton of money too... But with Remington/Bushmaster owning the rights, it's a Monpoly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tommy3rd 132 Posted October 15, 2010 " a design flaw which could result in multiple rounds firing continuously when the trigger is pulled. " Why would i want to have it fixed? It's something I've been wanting for a very long time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KpdPipes 388 Posted October 15, 2010 " a design flaw which could result in multiple rounds firing continuously when the trigger is pulled. " Why would i want to have it fixed? It's something I've been wanting for a very long time. $20,000 in Fines and 10 years in the FPIMAP should be reason enough. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tommy3rd 132 Posted October 15, 2010 $20,000 in Fines and 10 years in the FPIMAP should be reason enough. For the record, I don't own an ACR, i have an M4. Lol actually,I guess it would be of no use anywhere in jersey. Once the range Officer hears something that sounds like a fully automatic weapon, it would raise a flag. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shane45 807 Posted October 16, 2010 For the record you have an M4ergery Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites