n4p226r 105 Posted November 1, 2010 And what aren't nj legal Http://media.northjersey.com/images/102910_porn.jpg It's a pic of what was recovered from the Wayne man kiddie porn case. Apparently he had hi cap magazines and illegal hollowpoint bullets Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jon 264 Posted November 1, 2010 Wow, he had some high-quality hardware. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KpdPipes 388 Posted November 1, 2010 From left to right KRISS Carbine .45 Legal M-1 Garand Legal Springfield 1903 Legal Benelli Super-90 NOT Legal (Pistol Grip on a Semi Shotgun + Assault Weapon) HK SL-8 (???) Legal AR-15 Legal pellet Rifle Legal Ar-15 Legal Ak-variant Legal Unknown The AR's both appeared to have Muzzle Brakes, and the Ak appeared to have either a Crowned bbl, or a thread protector (I Assume) pinned on. Handguns: 1 Glock at least 4 1911's, 1 revolver, 1 unknown, what APPEARS to be an FN Five7N, and an AR lower. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,878 Posted November 1, 2010 I see a M14/M1A, 1903 Springfield, HK SL8, AR15, some sort of AK variant, and what looks to be a glock. Not sure what else is there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LorenzoS 100 Posted November 1, 2010 Benelli Super-90 NOT Legal (Pistol Grip on a Semi Shotgun + Assault Weapon) I thought this be made legal by permanently blocking the magazine to 6 rounds? Or is the pistol grip too evil no matter what? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jon 264 Posted November 1, 2010 I thought this be made legal by permanently blocking the magazine to 6 rounds? Or is the pistol grip too evil no matter what? IIRC any semi-auto shotgun w/ a pistol grip is an "assault weapon" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJM981 924 Posted November 1, 2010 I thought this be made legal by permanently blocking the magazine to 6 rounds? Or is the pistol grip too evil no matter what? 2C:39-1 (3)A semi-automatic shotgun with either a magazine capacity exceeding six rounds, a pistol grip, or a folding stock. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maksim 1,504 Posted November 1, 2010 kpd got them all. cant be tooo many Kris owners out there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nitrospaz9 10 Posted November 1, 2010 I'm sure the article listed them all as AK'S..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pizza Bob 1,488 Posted November 1, 2010 It's 03-A3, not just an 03. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JimmyAGR 54 Posted November 1, 2010 The second from the left looks to be an M1A, not a Garand. Unless my eyes are going which could be as I am getting older Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted November 1, 2010 Wow, he had some high-quality hardware. Damn right! I hope they don't destroy them, but this is New Jersey. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
n4p226r 105 Posted November 1, 2010 a shame had to be an idiot. seems like the guns were cool enough as is. why go against the law and add high cap magazines. question, he was arrested for having hollowpoints. is that charge only because he commited an other gun related crime with posession of them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaveWaters 0 Posted November 1, 2010 M1a No doubt. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KpdPipes 388 Posted November 1, 2010 I thought this be made legal by permanently blocking the magazine to 6 rounds? Or is the pistol grip too evil no matter what? Pistol grip is an automatic no-no cost me a SWEET deal on a High Standard model 10 a few years back too Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KpdPipes 388 Posted November 1, 2010 The second from the left looks to be an M1A, not a Garand. Unless my eyes are going which could be as I am getting older You are correct, I was wrong, i was looking at the reciever area and didnt bother looking at the gas system. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FFDP82 4 Posted November 2, 2010 There is no such thing as "high capacity magazine" It's a political term, coined by politicians 20 years ago to vilify an entire class of firearms. When these guns were designed they were meant to used, 20, 30, 35, etc. round magazines. That would make a 30-round AR-15 magazine a standard capacity magazine. 5, 10, and 15 round magazines being used in a gun designed for 20 and 30 round magazines would make them low capacity magazines. Here in NJ, we are only allowed to have low capacity magazines. At his house, police found standard capacity magazines. If you could go back in a time machine to 1980-something, walk into a gun shop and ask for a "high capacity magazine" the guy behind the counter would probably look at you funny. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted November 2, 2010 There is no such thing as "high capacity magazine" It's a political term, coined by politicians 20 years ago to vilify an entire class of firearms. When these guns were designed they were meant to used, 20, 30, 35, etc. round magazines. That would make a 30-round AR-15 magazine a standard capacity magazine. 5, 10, and 15 round magazines being used in a gun designed for 20 and 30 round magazines would make them low capacity magazines. Here in NJ, we are only allowed to have low capacity magazines. At his house, police found standard capacity magazines. If you could go back in a time machine to 1980-something, walk into a gun shop and ask for a "high capacity magazine" the guy behind the counter would probably look at you funny. Excellent point bro, right on the money. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
n4p226r 105 Posted November 2, 2010 true. but what about the g17 with the 33 rd mag. would that be a high capacity magazine? since it was designed with 17rds in mind Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_Matrix 105 Posted November 2, 2010 Its a kiddie porn case. The Prosecutor will use the weapons as leverage. Can't prove the initial charge, he's a sick F--K. Go for the easier one, the mags and hollowpoints. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FFDP82 4 Posted November 2, 2010 true. but what about the g17 with the 33 rd mag. would that be a high capacity magazine? since it was designed with 17rds in mind Yes, if the gun was designed for 17 rounds, then a 33 round magazine for that gun would be a high capacity magazine. The standard would be the 17 and the 15's you're stuck with here in NJ (or whatever size they are here) are the low capacity magazines. Some guns are intended to use even larger drums/belts. For example, a 75 round drum in an RPK would be a standard capacity magazine, as that is the device the gun was designed to feed from. Putting a 30 round magazine in an RPK would be using a low capacity magazine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PeteF 1,044 Posted November 2, 2010 Its a kiddie porn case. The Prosecutor will use the weapons as leverage. Can't prove the initial charge, he's a sick F--K. Go for the easier one, the mags and hollowpoints. +1000 The guns are a leverage issue. I pretty sure that anyone involved with kiddie porn has a mental defect which would make any gun ownership illegal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Teufelhunden 6 Posted November 2, 2010 Hard to tell from the pic, but if the M1A, AR type, or AK type have deadly bayonet lugs then they are illegal. If the Kriss has a folder it is also illegal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joecs1 11 Posted November 2, 2010 They still need to make the kiddie porn stuff stick so he has to register his name on the sex offender list! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PeteF 1,044 Posted November 2, 2010 Gun penalties are out of proportion with the offense ala the guy in prison for 7 years because he had a unloaded gun locked in his trunk. Prosecuter will probably offer a deal to have S***bag plead guilty to the kiddie porn offense so he won't be charged with the gun charges. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FFDP82 4 Posted November 2, 2010 Gun penalties are out of proportion with the offense I noticed the same thing too, somewhat recently actually. I tend to read various states' gun laws when I'm really, really bored. Maybe 6 months ago, I was amazed to find out that in most states, things like carrying a gun without a permit, or improper transportation of one, are usually misdemeanors or even just fines the first offense or two. NJ is one of only a ridiculous handful where the mere non-violent act of having a gun on you, or not locked the right way, is a straight up felony with huge jail sentences. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
e80hydro 120 Posted November 3, 2010 I noticed the same thing too, somewhat recently actually. I tend to read various states' gun laws when I'm really, really bored. Maybe 6 months ago, I was amazed to find out that in most states, things like carrying a gun without a permit, or improper transportation of one, are usually misdemeanors or even just fines the first offense or two. NJ is one of only a ridiculous handful where the mere non-violent act of having a gun on you, or not locked the right way, is a straight up felony with huge jail sentences. In NJ, you get less time in jail if your a convicted felon shooting someone with an illegaly obtained gun, than an honest citizen violating a stupid transportation law. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FFDP82 4 Posted November 3, 2010 In NJ, you get less time in jail if your a convicted felon shooting someone with an illegaly obtained gun, than an honest citizen violating a stupid transportation law. Sadly this is true. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites