KpdPipes 388 Posted June 5, 2011 Found the basis for a .38 Super Open-class 1911 on one of the auction sites for a REALLY Sweet price. It looks like it needs some work, maybe a new barrel and trigger job, both of which i can do myself, already has an optic rail installed..all in all it SEEMS like a right place at the right time thing. Any thoughts??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vjf915 456 Posted June 5, 2011 A speech to talk somebody OUT of buying a gun.....yea I don't have any of those. Go for it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kenw 293 Posted June 5, 2011 Wrong place to look for an intervention, Pipes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vlad G 345 Posted June 5, 2011 The first one is free, why don't you take a sample. Go on, its on the house. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maksim 1,504 Posted June 5, 2011 Is it a 1911 or a 2011? 38 Super in 1911 in Open you are kind of limiting yourself no? Then again... I know nothing about open guns really or 38 super. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dan 177 Posted June 5, 2011 Don't do it. No. Forget about it.. walk away... Wait... you say it has an optics rail? A really sweet price? You are in the market for a Open Class 1911? OK just buy it. ;p Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ronhonda 86 Posted June 5, 2011 If it is a 1911 your call. If it is a 2011, all depends on the price, but I would consider a 9major "open" gun. Brass is so much cheaper and if you use it in USPSA or something else, have fun finding the brass. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wolfy 51 Posted June 5, 2011 Not often I say this but your argument left me speechless. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jermz1987 243 Posted June 5, 2011 John Dillinger used 38 super, and he was a criminal....... Are you a criminal KpdPipes? I gave it a shot.. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MedicYeti 96 Posted June 5, 2011 I don't know much about 38 super so all I have is this: can you get the ammo for a reasonable price at most sportig goods stores? If the answer to either is "no" then my follow up is; are you a reloader? If no still is the answer then you may want to look into something else. That's all I have. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Babaganoosh 192 Posted June 5, 2011 Isn't 38 super brass expensive as all hell? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1563621 388 Posted June 5, 2011 I usually can find 38 super for 20-22 per 50. It is a sweet shooter!!! JMHO. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vjf915 456 Posted June 5, 2011 John Dillinger used 38 super, and he was a criminal....... Don't you mean .38 special? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ivwarrior 1 Posted June 5, 2011 You don't want it. Too hard to find ammo, takes up soo much time to reload. Frustrating when you lose that expensive brass at the range. Just forget all about it....right after you send me the link to the auction. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KpdPipes 388 Posted June 6, 2011 You guys are all heart...ill post the link..AFTER it's done. Colt Combat Elite in .38 Super..price right now 36 min from auction end is $551.00 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KpdPipes 388 Posted June 6, 2011 I have decided that I REALLY don't like the "15 min Rule" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vjf915 456 Posted June 6, 2011 Can you explain what that is? Edit: Found it and reading up on it now. Can you tel us what happened though? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KpdPipes 388 Posted June 6, 2011 Every time someone makes a bid the clock resets to 15 min...if somneone waits till ONE second before it ends and makes a bid..it resets the clock. Finally won it at $675.00 + $25.00 shipping Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jermz1987 243 Posted June 6, 2011 Don't you mean .38 special? John Dillinger at one point in his criminal carrear used 38 super. It was said he preferd the round becuse it went through car doors and vests beter the 45acp did. This is a photo of a gun John Dillinger used, A machine pistol 1911 with a thompshon handle in 38 super. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maksim 1,504 Posted June 6, 2011 that is epic winning. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KpdPipes 388 Posted June 6, 2011 link? http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=231325340 Looks like it's going to need some work, but it can be my winter project for next year, plus that will give me time to build up componenets and work up a good load. I may keep it light and stick to Steel with it, rather than USPSA..haven't decided yet. Barrel, Bushing, Internals, Springs and a trigger job..... Brownells is going to LOVE Me this year LOL. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vjf915 456 Posted June 6, 2011 John Dillinger at one point in his criminal carrear used 38 super. It was said he preferd the round becuse it went through car doors and vests beter the 45acp did. This is a photo of a gun John Dillinger used, A machine pistol 1911 with a thompshon handle in 38 super. Wow, bravo sir 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jermz1987 243 Posted June 7, 2011 LOL, If you saw the movie Public Enemies you can see the gun being used by Baby Face Nelson for a moment in the Little Bohemia shootout. Heres a better pic of the 38 super machine pistol. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KpdPipes 388 Posted June 7, 2011 I'm trying to remember if that came from Colt configured as a Machine Pistol or not Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve L 0 Posted June 11, 2011 well i know that auction ended but it was a single stack, youre not going to get the 27+ rounds most open guys will get. for steel it would be nice if you dont mind the tube for the red dot, the comp isnt all that great, but you mentioned a barrel change anyway. here is what i have to say about 38 super. if you are not reloading dont bother with open till you do its not worth it. if you are new to reloading dont load 9 major it can be tricky you really need to know the why and why not for everything like slow vs fast powder, why a certain overall length, barrel config. ie supported chamber possibly openeing up the throat. there is many more but 38 super is much easier to load and make major, there are more powders and you dont have to load long, at least i didnt. super brass is expensive its hard to find used brass so you have to use new and not get upset when you cant find it on the range. it gets worse when you shoot supercomp and starline is always on backorder so you have to buy more than you want to pay for cause you cant risk running out. 9 major is much more finicky and tricky, but when you know the ins and out 9major will be the way to go. so only buy 9major if you are really experienced with reloading, or you have a close friend who is willing to walk you through the steps. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KpdPipes 388 Posted June 12, 2011 well i know that auction ended but it was a single stack, youre not going to get the 27+ rounds most open guys will get. for steel it would be nice if you dont mind the tube for the red dot, the comp isnt all that great, but you mentioned a barrel change anyway. here is what i have to say about 38 super. if you are not reloading dont bother with open till you do its not worth it. if you are new to reloading dont load 9 major it can be tricky you really need to know the why and why not for everything like slow vs fast powder, why a certain overall length, barrel config. ie supported chamber possibly openeing up the throat. there is many more but 38 super is much easier to load and make major, there are more powders and you dont have to load long, at least i didnt. super brass is expensive its hard to find used brass so you have to use new and not get upset when you cant find it on the range. it gets worse when you shoot supercomp and starline is always on backorder so you have to buy more than you want to pay for cause you cant risk running out. 9 major is much more finicky and tricky, but when you know the ins and out 9major will be the way to go. so only buy 9major if you are really experienced with reloading, or you have a close friend who is willing to walk you through the steps. Thw one pictured in the above posts is from the FBI museum..it's the .38 Super Machine Pistol John Dillinger owned, NOT the one I purchased. The one I bought had no Comp, just a straight-crowned Kart Barrel. As for 27+ Rounds this is NJ, and im not going to risk my career for a game. IF I shoot uspsa with it it will be for fun with 10-rounders. Reloading, Yes i plan to, I'm not interested in 9-major and i'm well aware of the hazards with that I have a close friend who shoots 9-M open. So far I've found .38 super brass for around $150.00 per Thousand. That said...i'm liking .38 Super more and more ballistics-wise. As I read more about it..I may have to build one up as an Off-duty piece. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted June 13, 2011 The 38 super was created as a self defense cartridge no? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1563621 388 Posted June 13, 2011 I have 3 - 38 supers , my favorite round. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites