Krdshrk 3,877 Posted January 15, 2015 Looks like Magpul is making 2 new stocks/handguards for AKs! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,664 Posted January 15, 2015 http://njgunforums.com/forum/index.php/topic/74345-can-anyone-suggest-a-nj-compliant-ak-variant/?p=943153 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,877 Posted January 15, 2015 Yeah - I felt like it should be put in it's own topic though... Plus I have the screenshot Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,664 Posted January 15, 2015 Fair enough! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lexcruiser 12 Posted January 15, 2015 Any info on whether these will fit the Yugo NPAP/OPAP variants? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lalo 13 Posted January 15, 2015 Digging the handguard. Wonder how it would fit a Saiga. Guess you would need a front mount. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
n4p226r 105 Posted January 15, 2015 not liking either based on looks, but knowing magpul, I'm sure functionally they are great. i definitely prefer the tacticool AR stock buffer tube version if you are going to mall ninja it up Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
carl_g 568 Posted January 15, 2015 I like the stocks sort of but the purist in me throws up when I see those hand guards. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuRrEaLNJ 294 Posted January 18, 2015 Here's a better shot of the handguard. I really like it. I wonder how much lighter it is then say an MI extended. The moe stock though at least from the vide seems a little low to the bore then say putting an FCS or other magpul stock on a RD adapter Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tuktuk 16 Posted January 18, 2015 damn this makes me want to get back into "Russian style" rifles Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lalo 13 Posted January 19, 2015 Any word when these will be out? I'm guessing they'll announce during Shot Show? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,877 Posted January 20, 2015 Hopefully soon! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tuktuk 16 Posted January 20, 2015 wondering how the longer handguard would look on RPK .... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lalo 13 Posted May 18, 2015 So far I'm digging the Zhukov handguard. Since this was a converted Saiga, I had no retaining clip to remove/cut so installation was a breeze. The heat shield under the handguard first gets clamped onto the barrel, then you slip the handguard over that. There is absolutely no wiggle at all which I love. Feels great and goes with the rest of the look I was looking for.The only problem I have now is that I want to get another AK so I can leave that with the traditional furniture. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,877 Posted May 18, 2015 That looks pretty sweet! I need to convert my Saiga... I think I'd go for the MOE one though, not the Zhukov... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vladtepes 1,060 Posted May 18, 2015 I want one for my S12... this guy was doing this in 2012.. lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MartyZ 692 Posted May 18, 2015 will the zhukov work on the M77? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S14Swap240sx 6 Posted May 18, 2015 That looks pretty sweet! I need to convert my Saiga... I think I'd go for the MOE one though, not the Zhukov... Makes the conversion easy! No need to file a notch for the handguard retainer as they dont use the handguard retainer unless you get the shorter handguard. I havnt filed the notch in my barrel yet for the retainer, but my new gas block is pinned in place already. donno what to do! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,877 Posted May 18, 2015 Makes the conversion easy! No need to file a notch for the handguard retainer as they dont use the handguard retainer unless you get the shorter handguard. I havnt filed the notch in my barrel yet for the retainer, but my new gas block is pinned in place already. donno what to do! So then it's easier to use the Zhukov one, not the MOE? Score. I'll get that one then. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S14Swap240sx 6 Posted May 19, 2015 So then it's easier to use the Zhukov one, not the MOE? Score. I'll get that one then. No even the mid length hand guard requires you remove the hand guard retainer from what i can tell. The shortest one available uses the hand guard retainer as a sling loop Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lalo 13 Posted May 19, 2015 The MOE handguard uses the stock handguard retaining clip as a mounting point. I believe they have 2x flavors of the MOE handguard. One with a knotch cut out so that you can keep the sling loop and one without the knotch cut out in case you want to cut the sling loop (but keep the rest of the retaining clip). To install the Zhukov handguard, you have to completely remove the handguard retaining clip. This is why the Zhukov is a good option for people who have Saigas since unless they did a full (correct) conversion which includes a retaining clip, they won't have a retaining clip to deal with at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,877 Posted May 19, 2015 This is why the Zhukov is a good option for people who have Saigas since unless they did a full (correct) conversion which includes a retaining clip, they won't have a retaining clip to deal with at all. That's exactly the info I was looking for. Zhukov it is! Now I gotta wait to find it in stock... I kinda want it in Plum... and the stock too.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lalo 13 Posted May 19, 2015 will the zhukov work on the M77? I think the main issue you'll have to deal with mounting the zhukov is the diameter of the barrel. Magpul says "Mounts to most AK-47/AKM/AK-74 rifles with barrel diameters between 17-18mm and greater than 13" in length". if your rifle meets that criteria, the other fitment issues you might encounter could probably be dealt with by trimming the polymer to fit the receiver, etc. I believe someone already mounted it on a Saiga 12 by getting longer screws for the clamps and trimming the plastic in some spots. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MartyZ 692 Posted May 19, 2015 I think the main issue you'll have to deal with mounting the zhukov is the diameter of the barrel. Magpul says "Mounts to most AK-47/AKM/AK-74 rifles with barrel diameters between 17-18mm and greater than 13" in length". if your rifle meets that criteria, the other fitment issues you might encounter could probably be dealt with by trimming the polymer to fit the receiver, etc. I believe someone already mounted it on a Saiga 12 by getting longer screws for the clamps and trimming the plastic in some spots. Yeah, i will have to cut off the retaining clip. Im worried about the barrel diameter and the length of the upper guard since the m77 has a longer forearm than standard. Barrel length im not worried about since its an 18" barrel. My gun is at backwoods right now. I'll have to measure everything when i get it back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MartyZ 692 Posted May 27, 2015 I just called magpul, NONE of the new hand guards will fit any Yugo rifle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lalo 13 Posted May 28, 2015 Had a whole thing written out hen I lost it. What I wanted to say was... Just MAKE it fit! As long as you can get the metal sleeve properly secured to the barrel by either getting longer screws or by modifying the barrel clamps, if there is anything else preventing the polymer handguard from slipping on you can just trim the plastic. Here's a Zhukov handguard on a Vepr - http://imgur.com/a/men4r Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MartyZ 692 Posted May 29, 2015 Had a whole thing written out hen I lost it. What I wanted to say was... Just MAKE it fit! As long as you can get the metal sleeve properly secured to the barrel by either getting longer screws or by modifying the barrel clamps, if there is anything else preventing the polymer handguard from slipping on you can just trim the plastic. Here's a Zhukov handguard on a Vepr - http://imgur.com/a/men4r I think the biggest problem is the upper handguard. From what I have heard the yugos have a longer upper handguard then the standard AK platform Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lalo 13 Posted May 30, 2015 You can always just use the stock upper hand guard with the Zhukov lower hand guard. Or, just get an Ultimak and scrap the upper all together. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MartyZ 692 Posted June 1, 2015 You can always just use the stock upper hand guard with the Zhukov lower hand guard. Or, just get an Ultimak and scrap the upper all together. That's what I did, the lower handguard fit with a few minor modifications and I didn't have to cut of the handguard retainer. I put up another post with pics. http://njgunforums.com/forum/index.php/topic/76930-finally-got-my-pap-m77-perfect/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites