To Tavor or Not to Tavor

[Blake 50]

When is the desert tech gonna be available and what's the street price?

No date or street price. Retail is 2k.

 

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[Jfoster99 80]

I just ordered a FDE x95 from copper customs for $1586 with the first responder discount. Plus paid an additional $100 for a left bolt. Now to choose and optic.. Mepro M21?

[leo-польд 35]

Tavor is great, finally available in many stores. I own one since Nov 2015 and it is absolute joy to shot. I got 9mm conversion to it and it is very easy to convert procedure. I would buy X95 as well as soon as they are in stores.

[david8613 69]

 

Pretty cool vid of x95

[njpilot 671]

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016/05/04/mac-tests-iwi-x95s-accuracy-confirms-dispersion-problem/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_content=2016-05-07&utm_campaign=Weekly+Newsletter

[david8613 69]

This is not good for a bullpup everyone was waiting for for sure, but Im not too worried about this. Im sure what ever the problem is IWI will fix it asap.

[RecessedFilter 222]

I just ordered a FDE x95 from copper customs for $1586 with the first responder discount. Plus paid an additional $100 for a left bolt. Now to choose and optic.. Mepro M21?

Last time i saw CC won't ship to NJ. I guess they changed that?

[david8613 69]

Here is my x95, very handy weapon, she feels lighter, smaller than the tavor i had last year, even though they are the same. The trigger is night and day, alot smoother and lighter pull. Now to look for a nice light optic. I wanna thank tier one defense and homeland guns for handling a nice smooth transaction for me.

 

[IS45 1]

I hope,it won't be a disappointment.Didn't have chance to shoot mine yet.

[axeman_g 128]

My Tavor. Ordered a Factory Refurb LH Model from Old West Scrounger in a fit of overtiredness from working long hours. I could not be happier after putting 100rds through it yesterday. I was able to get it on paper with a 3" group offhand at 50yds and it was Minute of Man at 300yds off of a rest. Those shot were with a TA11 3.5 ACOG and using two eyes open. More on that later.

I received the rifle Thurs from TJ's Sporting Arms (big shout out for his patience and ease of scheduling) and got it home and started some small modifications. Probably the nicest rifle package I have ever opened. Comes with the best manual i have ever read, a very useful cleaning kit, sight tool

Gieselle Trigger went in first. ( I did not even want to experience the MOE trigger. The Gieselle was purchased on sale for $250 )
Manticore Curved Buttstock Pad. ( This is 100% required as the original pad is to tacky, and mishaped. )
Midwest Industries Tavor Extended Keymod Handguard with 1" Light Kit and a Primary Arms 700 Lumen Light ( The light unfortunately crapped the bed after X amount of rds. It will be going back to PA )

Magpul SVG

Slapped the ACOG on and away we go. One thing about this rifle is the EASE, and let me repeat the EASE which one can use an ACOG sight on in the correct fashion. Once you find the correct eye relief position for the unit, I was able to focus both eyes beyond the sight/rifle on the target area and have the optic appear in my FOV. No repositioning no moving of head. Its there and its usable and its accurate. 5 hits on an 8" steel plate at 50yards... no problem. 300 yard Man sized paper target of a bench / elbows... no problem. Now I want to really dial in the accuracy. I am going to get a rest or a bipod and see if I can get this down to 1" or under at 50yds. I have some different weight rounds I want to try as well.

Function was flawless... no a big test yet but no issues. Only hangup I caused with a weak bolt pull and release. Mag drops and changes are stupid fast and easy with the bolt release right at your thumb. Balance and weight are so nice, it seems to a really nice mixture. Like a really good baseball bat, it heavy enough to drive a ball with without being whippy or to fast with through the strike zone.

Overall... Great purchase. a ton of upside and potential. Small issues, such as learning to feel when the mag runs dry as it is not have a a big tactile alteration when empty, gas escaping the right hand ejection port making my left eye water on two shots. Overall a 9 out of 10 !!!!

 

AFTER / BEFORE PHOTOS.

[Jfoster99 80]

Copper Custom took my order paid in full with postal money order but has not shipped my X95 yet... I assume if they did not ship to NJ they would have said something... My FFL does compliance work so he accepts non compliant firearms..

 

My concern now is all the 3-5MOA accuracy reports on the x95... I was not expecting a snipper rifle but 2MOA with quality ammo does not seem unrealistic.

 

Since the bolt and trigger between the Tavor and the X95 are interchangeable I assumed the accuracy would be about the same. Is there any chance this is something IWI can fix? If not I was thinking about canceling the order and getting an LWRC IC A5.

[Shawnmoore81 623]

Tavor vs ar

 

http://youtu.be/fkMXShdrQ0I

 

 

 

 

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[Shawnmoore81 623]

Meron

 

 

 

http://thearmednovelist.tumblr.com/post/37080771124/versia-military-design-meron-rifle

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[Shawnmoore81 623]

I ended up putting the really short rainier arms brake on my tavor. It really shortened it up well.

 

 

 

 

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[Jfoster99 80]

My X95 is waiting for pickup at G&S Hunters... I ask for the barrel to be cut back when the break is pinned...

 

I ordered a VG6 Epsilion break but the packaging references flash suppression and the three prong tip was too risky... I then was ordering a phase 5 tactical Fatman but that looks to big in the overall diameter so I did not pull the trigger...

 

 

Any suggestions for a cool looking break....

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My X95 is waiting for pickup at G&S Hunters... I ask for the barrel to be cut back when the break is pinned...

 

I ordered a VG6 Epsilion break but the packaging references flash suppression and the three prong tip was too risky... I then was ordering a phase 5 tactical Fatman but that looks to big in the overall diameter so I did not pull the trigger...

 

 

Any suggestions for a cool looking break....

 

What are the asking for it at G&S?

 

I'de be more interested in a functional break

[Jfoster99 80]

I paid $1586 thru Copper Custom with First Responder discount.

[deerpark 83]

Depends on how cheap IMO.

 

But in general, to pay that much for a 223 rifle is meh.

 

Id rather spend the money on a PWS piston driven MK2.

 

http://primaryweapons.com/store/product-category/firearms/mk2-mod-1/mk2-mod-1-rifles/

[Texas Shooter 35]

So what optic are you putting on your X-95's?  I'm leaning towards a T-2.

[Jfoster99 80]

I just picked up a Mepro M21...

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I just picked up a Mepro M21...

 

which reticle did you get? I like the triangle 

[Jfoster99 80]

That is what I got as well.. I hope to be able to use the tip to get a little more accuracy at distance... I picked up a cheap 3x magnifier.... If it works out I may get the Mepro m6 magnifier but it cost as much as the sight.... Going to have to really want it first. I hope to get it to the range next weekend.

[Shawnmoore81 623]

I'm thinking about adding the vortex magnifier or switching out my eotech for a scope

 

 

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[bhunted 887]

I apologize, but I coudn't find a definitive answer to this.

 

Question: Beings the Tavors do not have collapsible stocks, that removes 1 evil feature from the typical AR dilemma... Isn't the hider ok to have at this point?

The SA M1A rifles are not affected legally with their flash hiders... why the Tavors?

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I apologize, but I coudn't find a definitive answer to this.

 

Question: Beings the Tavors do not have collapsible stocks, that removes 1 evil feature from the typical AR dilemma... Isn't the hider ok to have at this point?

The SA M1A rifles are not affected legally with their flash hiders... why the Tavors?

 

pistol grip (debatable) and removable magazine

[bhunted 887]

So does the AR line.... They have collapsible stock, pistol grip, removable mag, threaded barrel, etc. Pin stock and barrel. Brings it down to 2 evil features.

With the Tavor, it does not have collapsible stock. That's one less than the ARs.... see what I'm getting at?

The M1A has removable mag but has hider... Obviously no pistol grip or collabsible stock.

Hence, the clarification and why I'm confused a tad.

 

pistol grip (debatable) and removable magazine

[PK90 3,570]

Detachable mag is qualifier, not evil feature, so you can have one feature, which is usually a pistol grip. As mentioned, the Tavor has that like an AR, so a brake needs to be pinned on eliminating the barrel threads.

 

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[bhunted 887]

Detachable mag is qualifier, not evil feature, so you can have one feature, which is usually a pistol grip. As mentioned, the Tavor has that like an AR, so a brake needs to be pinned on eliminating the barrel threads.

 

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Gotchya, thanks.

 

 

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[david8613 69]

Anyone running t1 on there tavor or x95?

[Jfoster99 80]

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