Howard 538 Posted April 27, 2015 I had yet another gun issue at a match today. Was at Easton Fish and Game for a large IDPA match when my STI Trojan decided it just did not want to work anymore after only the third of twelve stages. Fortunately for me another shooter on my squad had the same gun and was nice enough to share his gun with me so I could complete the match. When I opened her up here is what I found Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Golf battery 1,223 Posted April 27, 2015 Ssp. Keep em clean. Never had any failures. Howard try a wheelgun. They dont have those extra non essential parts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blacksmythe 71 Posted April 27, 2015 Is that the 9 or 45 version? Sheesh those are supposed to be top notch. Better luck next time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bully 749 Posted April 27, 2015 That sucks. Sorry. It's a relatively easy fix just make sure to check the frame of the pistol to make sure that you aren't slamming on the VIS or something wacky. Most likely it just a weak link. Glad that you were able to complete the match. C ETA: It could be that your link is a touch short rather than it smacking something inside. Be sure to check it regardless. C Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T Bill 649 Posted April 27, 2015 I have never seen a barrel link break. I would replace the slide stop also. Barrel link's purpose is to lower barrel after firing nothing more. On return to battery the barrel returns to position by riding up on the lower barrel lugs. Something is not right with the lower barrel lugs and lockup. A link should never be used to tighten a barrel during lockup. Link spacing between the two holes can vary from .268 to .273 I believe so time for a smith to see what the problem is.Some reading about function and effect. http://www.m1911.org/testkit.htm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Howard 538 Posted April 27, 2015 This is a 9mm variant of the gun. Not sure about those wheel guns being so great. A woman on my squad had her's totally lock up and you could not even open the cylinder. I think it turned out the firing pin in her's broke. I am guessing this was some sort of metallurgical failure, as two point failures are not exactly common. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old School 611 Posted April 27, 2015 Howard, I've had excellent experience with STI. I'd send that damned pistol to them, I don't care how many rounds, And they should stand behind it. If you really needed one I have an STI 9mm Trojan. We'd just have to figure out how to make a legal loaner. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Howard 538 Posted April 27, 2015 Howard, I've had excellent experience with STI. I'd send that damned pistol to them, I don't care how many rounds, And they should stand behind it. If you really needed one I have an STI 9mm Trojan. We'd just have to figure out how to make a legal loaner. Thanks. I know they will stand behind it. I posted on Enos forum and Dustin at STI said, "We will fix the issue. Sorry for your bad luck". I am just lucky that someone on my squad had a substantially identical (actually exact) gun and was nice enough to let me use it to complete the match. While I appreciate your offer, unfortunately in New Jermany we know such a load is not possible. Well I guess one could do it through a sale with a P2P and then later a sale back with another P2P. Oh well. I am not going to like being without the STI for a while, but I'll live. Guess it will give me more trigger time with my tupperware Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old School 611 Posted April 27, 2015 I could work if I attended your match and loaned that way. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Parker 213 Posted April 27, 2015 I have never seen a barrel link break. I would replace the slide stop also. Barrel link's purpose is to lower barrel after firing nothing more. On return to battery the barrel returns to position by riding up on the lower barrel lugs. Something is not right with the lower barrel lugs and lockup. A link should never be used to tighten a barrel during lockup. Link spacing between the two holes can vary from .268 to .273 I believe so time for a smith to see what the problem is. Some reading about function and effect. http://www.m1911.org/testkit.htm Dan Dwyer's Group Gripper licensed to Wilson performs this feat. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
illy 1 Posted April 27, 2015 Howard, I've seen this happen to a few guns on various forums. No definitive answers usually as to the cause, but a number of people did point out that high pressure rounds can be the culprit. Just something to consider. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Teky0101 6 Posted April 27, 2015 Were you using reloads? Was the load to powerful for the gun? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Howard 538 Posted April 27, 2015 Just regular factory ammo, no +P or anything like that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ronhonda 86 Posted April 27, 2015 Just regular factory ammo, no +P or anything like that. Factory or Freedom reman? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Howard 538 Posted April 27, 2015 Factory new, not any remanufactured. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T Bill 649 Posted April 27, 2015 Anybody still using shock buffs on their 1911s. Always found it to help dampen slide battering. http://shopwilsoncombat.com/Shok-Buff-Recoil-Buffers-1911-Package-of-6/productinfo/2B Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vlad G 345 Posted April 27, 2015 I use shock buffs in 1911's but I also use light springs. With full power recoil springs I don't feel the need. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Howard 538 Posted April 28, 2015 Spoke with Randy at STI this morning and he told me that I should send the barrel in and they will fix it, hopefully they can turn it around in a day is what he told me. So, it is on it's way to Texas and hopefully I'll be up and running early next week. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blacksmythe 71 Posted May 9, 2015 Was it the 9 or the 45. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tony357 386 Posted May 9, 2015 Odd failure.. i use shock buffers.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Howard 538 Posted May 10, 2015 Was it the 9 or the 45. Mine is a 9mm, they make a .40, don't think it comes in .45cal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heavyopp 167 Posted May 10, 2015 Spoke with Randy at STI this morning and he told me that I should send the barrel in and they will fix it, hopefully they can turn it around in a day is what he told me. So, it is on it's way to Texas and hopefully I'll be up and running early next week. All they wanted was the barrel? -- interesting that they don't want to know the cause of the link failure Yes they do make the trojan in .45acp -- I shoot the snot out of mine... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Howard 538 Posted May 13, 2015 UPDATE: Got barrel back today with link replaced. They said that the original link was too short which is what caused it to break. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
checko 180 Posted May 13, 2015 Did they say how much shorter? That's weird. Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T Bill 649 Posted May 13, 2015 Good luck with it this time. I wonder how they would know the link was too short unless they fitted the barrel in another frame. But thats not your frame. Anyway, as I said, Good Luck with it. Checko, links are fitted based on the frame and barrel fit. It's only purpose it to lower the barrel during cycling, nothing else. Sizes vary by the distance between the two holes center to center. Biggest difference is something like .268 to .288. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Howard 538 Posted May 13, 2015 I don't know how much shorter it was than it supposed to be, and I don't know if they just measured it or put it in another frame. I had offered to send the entire frame in to them, but they told me that would not be necessary. I can only guess they measured hole to hole on the broken link. I am guessing they just grabbed the wrong one when they originally built the gun. I guess we will have to wait a year or so to see if this stays good. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pizza Bob 1,488 Posted May 13, 2015 So, are you shooting it Sunday @ Somerset? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Howard 538 Posted May 13, 2015 So, are you shooting it Sunday @ Somerset? Don't know Bob, I registered for SSP. The old MD got pissed at me when I changed the Division I was shooting in. The new MD just gets pissed at me all the time Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.Stu 1,922 Posted May 14, 2015 Don't know Bob, I registered for SSP. The old MD got pissed at me when I changed the Division I was shooting in. The new MD just gets pissed at me all the time Whether you're on fire or not, Howard Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Howard 538 Posted May 14, 2015 Cool Stu, I think I'll shoot my Bug-A-Salt in that case! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites