matty 810 Posted January 21, 2017 Sig wins this time. I am guessing they speeded things up since they were getting so much cr@p about it taking so long. We will see if there's a protest (likely) https://www.armytimes.com/articles/army-your-new-handgun-will-be-a-sig-sauer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
raz-0 1,259 Posted January 25, 2017 at $200 a unit all in form teh rumors, I'm not sure who all wants to be in. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,670 Posted February 27, 2017 Well, Glock filed a protest 3 days ago and the GAO decision is due June 5th. No idea what aspect they protested. I wonder if we will see anymore protests. Clearly debriefs are happening. http://soldiersystems.net/2017/02/27/glock-protests-xm17-modular-handgun-system-award/ ETA: Sounds like Glock is stating that their submission performed better on all tests, but Sig won on price alone. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YankeeSC 1,204 Posted February 28, 2017 I wonder if we will see anymore protests. Do you think there will be riots? #NotMyModularHandgunSystem 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HBecwithFn7 296 Posted March 1, 2017 FWIW, I now carry the P320SC as EDC. I like it, much. Although, I gather this has more to do with politics and $$$ (as in, who gets the contract). I can't believe it's a "Buy American" thing since both companies are foreign firms and both have a US HQ location. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted March 1, 2017 No matter what gun the DOD chooses, there will be complaints and disdain. I honestly don't care what gun they choose. But do the testing FAIRLY and WITHOUT BIAS. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
302w 83 Posted March 1, 2017 Well, Glock filed a protest 3 days ago and the GAO decision is due June 5th. No idea what aspect they protested. I wonder if we will see anymore protests. Clearly debriefs are happening. http://soldiersystems.net/2017/02/27/glock-protests-xm17-modular-handgun-system-award/ ETA: Sounds like Glock is stating that their submission performed better on all tests, but Sig won on price alone. What does Glock have to protest? I don't know what Glock submitted but I doubt it was anything modular. Army wanted modular frames and manual safeties. Glock had neither. In fact, Sig was the only one with a modular frame. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted March 1, 2017 Do you think there will be riots? #NotMyModularHandgunSystemSig won, get over it!!Lol I like where you're going with this. Ha ha Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JimB1 555 Posted March 1, 2017 Not for nothing but last time the Sig p226/228 won overall but they chose the Beretta 92/m9 based on price. Sig learned from that and this time around submitted exactly what they were looking for at a price they liked. Not sure what Glock's issue is but if anyone there thought price wasn't gong to be a deciding factor, they haven't been paying much attention. JMHO -Jim 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,670 Posted March 1, 2017 I vaguely remember there being something about US building bases, or staging missles, or strategically placing equipment in Italy that pushed them to Beretta... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK90 3,573 Posted March 1, 2017 IIRC, no manual safety on a Glock. Sent from an undisclosed location 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
302w 83 Posted March 1, 2017 IIRC, no manual safety on a Glock. Sent from an undisclosed location Exactly. Is this arrogance? "Our gun is better so you should accept it even though it isn't what you want" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted March 1, 2017 Exactly. Is this arrogance? "Our gun is better so you should accept it even though it isn't what you want" If you read HE link in the comments.( at least when I did) some were suggesting that the glock version submitted had a manual safety. This protest is akin to" can I ask you to reconsider, maybe we can work something out" Or, the testing was bias, and they have evedince. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
302w 83 Posted March 1, 2017 If you read HE link in the comments.( at least when I did) some were suggesting that the glock version submitted had a manual safety. This protest is akin to" can I ask you to reconsider, maybe we can work something out" Or, the testing was bias, and they have evedince. Okay.. I didn't Still, Sig was the only one with a "modular" frame. I think the modular frame is a stupid idea for the Military anyway. I wanted S&W to win. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted March 1, 2017 Well then I guess. Time will tell Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,670 Posted March 1, 2017 The solicitation was worded in a way that S&W was the only available COTS option that met all requirements. Everyone thought S&W was going to win - it was almost like they wrote the reqs themselves. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted March 2, 2017 Out of all the major manufacturers making the desired weapon for the military, is there a WRONG choice? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted March 2, 2017 Fair point ^^^ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted March 2, 2017 Fair point ^^^ There is no perfect gun for the job. Glock guys will say Glock perfection. S&W guys will say chpose American. And so on and so forth. But at the end of the day, they DID NOT choose a Hi-Point or Bersa so it's really a moot point. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bhunted 887 Posted March 2, 2017 Its all about the monnnnnnneeh! What options they can get for the best price. ....Art of the Deal! [emoji6] Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites