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By AVB-AMG
Question: Is it actually legal in NJ for employees of a gun range to open carry a firearm?
First of all this is NOT a criticism. I have observed at a number of gun ranges that I have visited in NJ that most, but not all, of the staff, (sales, counter, instructors), open carry a pistol, usually on their belt. I do not have a problem with this but I am curious if that is actually legal in NJ. Does anyone here know the answer to that question?
I do know that any of us can legally open carry whatever we want inside our own homes and within the boundaries of our property. I also thought that business owner(s), but only the business owner(s), also have the right to open carry anywhere inside their place of business. Yet I thought that only applied to the business owners, not employees, staff, or consultants. Since it is so prevalent, I am probably misunderstanding NJ gun law. I tried to find where in NJ Law this question is addressed and here is what I found: (I did a cut & paste from Section 2C:2C:39-6):
e. Nothing in subsections b., c. and d. of N.J.S.2C:39-5 shall be construed to prevent a person keeping or carrying about his place of business, residence, premises or other land owned or possessed by him, any firearm, or from carrying the same, in the manner specified in subsection g. of this section, from any place of purchase to his residence or place of business, between his dwelling and his place of business, between one place of business or residence and another when moving, or between his dwelling or place of business and place where such firearms are repaired, for the purpose of repair. For the purposes of this section, a place of business shall be deemed to be a fixed location.
I understand that all employees of any NJ gun range have to undergo an in-depth state required application process. There is a Federal law requiring all firearms Dealers, (must be over the age of 21) and their employees, (must be over the age of 18), must obtain and renew every 3 years, a retail license from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms (ATF), before they can engage in the retail sale of firearms in NJ. The process involves submitting an application to the NJ State Police, specifically, the NJSP’s Firearms Investigation Unit, which determines if the applicant or employee meets the state’s requirements. If acceptable, the application is then forwarded to a NJ Superior Court Judge in the same County as the place of business (gun range/retail store). That Judge has the discretion to decide if the applicant, (owner and/or employee), meets the standards and qualifications established by the NJSP and also could qualify to obtain a NJ Firearms Purchaser Identification Card (FPIC) and then either grants or denies the license. So their having to go through this laborious process is why I am pretty confident that all of the staff at these gun ranges have been properly vetted and are more sane and safe with guns than many other NJ residents.
Does anyone on NJGF know where NJ law clearly states that this is legal or is the ambiguity of the law such that it just an accepted interpretation allowing employees to open carry? Please help clarify this for me.
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By darrenlobo
This is the speech I gave at the
2nd Amendment Awareness Rally & Open Carry March! .223 2014! My message that the constitution has failed went over better than I thought it would. It says a lot about this crowd that we can have differences of opinion and still respect each other. http://theinternationallibertarian.blogspot.com/2014/02/the-broken-constitution-video.html -
By darrenlobo
At the End the Fed (Federal Reserve System) Rally of Saturday, May 18, 2013 Edd Skitz, a local liberty activist, open carried a handgun in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
http://theinternationallibertarian.blogspot.com/2013/05/open-carrying-gun-in-philadelphia.html
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Hey guys, looking to pick up a great condition Smith & Wesson model 41 22lr. Let me know what you have. Located in central Nj Thanks Chris
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By Grima Squeakersen · Posted
Have you done any research into the cost and licensing requirements to run a repeater? We own some mountainous acreage in a very rural part of Virginia RIdge and Valley country that serves as vacation place and potential SHTF retreat. We get mediocre cell phone coverage (US Cellular only) and nothing else. I have thought of putting an antenna tower up the hill a ways (we own nearly to the top of the ridge. I wouldn't do it just for Ham or GMRS radio, but if I could get expanded cell coverage, and/or satellite internet (Dish or Starlink) as well, from one tower, I might go for it. ==== sorry, didn't intend to hijack the thread ====
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