I guess if you can't afford ~$500 you can't exercise your right to defend yourself!

[Alexander 1]

I'm currently in the process of submitting my NJ CCW paperwork. I'm a single father and had to put out almost $500 just to exercise my constitutional right! What happens to all the people that can't afford to put out almost $500 EVERY TWO YEARS? Do they not get the right to self preservation?  

• $200 Township/State Police permitting fees
• Qualification $150
• Fingerprinting $66.05
• Photos $32

 

[CMJeepster 2,778]

Trump's fault or pork roll?

Welcome to New Jersey.

[Mrs. Peel 7,157]

NJ will continue, with all conscious and deliberative intent, to make this process as costly... cumbersome... and confusing as possible. You can take that to the bank. They don't WANT you to carry!  They prefer to punish you, the law-abiding, while - for instance - setting aside millions to provide people who came here illegally with fully funded legal services...or, doing away with cash bail so that common criminals can be released back onto the streets as rapidly as possible.  This is a truly ass-backwards state!

[DirtyDigz 1,812]

Meanwhile, if you DON'T have a NJ PTC, and brandish a handgun during an argument in a casino, or shoot bb guns out of cars at people while carrying illegal "ghost" guns in the car, you get.....parole:

https://dailyvoice.com/new-jersey/atlantic/police-fire/philadelphia-woman-sentenced-for-brandishing-handgun-in-atlantic-city/861727/

https://dailyvoice.com/new-jersey/atlantic/police-fire/pennsylvania-man-sentenced-for-possessing-weapons-in-atlantic-city/861722/

[maintenanceguy 510]

That's the plan.  When middle aged white women clutch their pearls and cry out about "those" dangerous people with guns they aren't thinking about their neighbors in the suburbs.

Those middle age white women are thinking about the people who don't look like them and are more likely to live in lower income neighborhoods.

It's about keeping guns away from "those people" more than it is about keeping guns away from "people".

[FairbanksRusty 64]

7 hours ago, Alexander said:

I'm currently in the process of submitting my NJ CCW paperwork. I'm a single father and had to put out almost $500 just to exercise my constitutional right! What happens to all the people that can't afford to put out almost $500 EVERY TWO YEARS? Do they not get the right to self preservation?  

• $200 Township/State Police permitting fees
• Qualification $150
• Fingerprinting $66.05
• Photos $32

 

There was a segment on GFH radio yesterday where Sandy and Anthony commented on NJ people caving in and going along with  unconstitutional things in this state. Well, this is just another example. So many now are tripping over themselves to procure their PTC.

Before that we were making multiple trips to the local gun shop just to first buy a firearm, wait for the NICS to clear, then go back to the store to pick it up! When did it change from buy a gun and wait for NJSP NICS to clear you in fifteen minutes? And if you want some ammo now with that purchase, you must pay an additional $1.50 so your info is logged accordingly with the NJSP.  WTF! 
 

For me this is a hard pass.  I’ll wait til I move to a constitutional carry state, where the color of the ink isn’t a criteria on an concealed carry application.  
 

 

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[father-of-three 243]

Yep.  I thought  $100 for a (5 year!) New Hampshire license was expensive.

[Jon K 32]

But the Marxist Demoncrats are for the poor??? No they are for themselves... The Pigs from Animal Farm....

[Mr.Stu 1,922]

1 hour ago, Jon K said:

But the Marxist Demoncrats are for the poor???

They certainly are - and they will keep taking your hard earned money until you are.

[124gr9mm 859]

10 hours ago, FairbanksRusty said:

There was a segment on GFH radio yesterday where Sandy and Anthony commented on NJ people caving in and going along with  unconstitutional things in this state. Well, this is just another example. So many now are tripping over themselves to procure their PTC.

Respectfully, if nobody went through the process it wouldn't exist.

Yes the system is flawed and can be expensive, but the more people that force the issue now, the more it will benefit everyone later.

If there were only a handful of people applying it would be easy for the courts, police, and Murphy to simply let the option to CCW die on the vine...

[CMJeepster 2,778]

17 hours ago, Mrs. Peel said:

NJ will continue, with all conscious and deliberative intent, to make this process as costly... cumbersome... and confusing as possible. You can take that to the bank. They don't WANT you to carry!  They prefer to punish you, the law-abiding, while - for instance - setting aside millions to provide people who came here illegally with fully funded legal services...or, doing away with cash bail so that common criminals can be released back onto the streets as rapidly as possible.  This is a truly ass-backwards state!

So, you admit that it's pork roll?

[silverado427 10,731]

52 minutes ago, CMJeepster said:

So, you admit that it's pork roll?

[Jon K 32]

2 hours ago, Mr.Stu said:

They certainly are - and they will keep taking your hard earned money until you are.

Very good!!!

[Tunaman 552]

500 grand to renovate Murphy's office!  What a bunch of bullshit!

[oneshot 45]

21 minutes ago, Tunaman said:

500 grand to renovate Murphy's office!  What a bunch of bullshit!

He doesnt give a fuck its not his money ,although he could afford the 500k without blinking. Hes a scumbag, And this state is a lost cause.

Im not jumping through hoops to exercise a constitutional right .Hopefully get out of this democrat run shit hole soon

[Vdep217 63]

46 minutes ago, oneshot said:

He doesnt give a fuck its not his money ,although he could afford the 500k without blinking. Hes a scumbag, And this state is a lost cause.

Im not jumping through hoops to exercise a constitutional right .Hopefully get out of this democrat run shit hole soon

Hate to say it but people bitched for so long we couldn't exercise our 2 a rights now tgat we can they come up with more excuses.  Right now the more people tgat get it the better off we are while we fight in the courts.

[dilbert1967 146]

On 4/17/2023 at 3:06 PM, Alexander said:

I'm currently in the process of submitting my NJ CCW paperwork. I'm a single father and had to put out almost $500 just to exercise my constitutional right! What happens to all the people that can't afford to put out almost $500 EVERY TWO YEARS? Do they not get the right to self preservation?  

• $200 Township/State Police permitting fees
• Qualification $150
• Fingerprinting $66.05
• Photos $32

 

I hear you and feel your pain.  I now realize I made the situation worse with a bad decision:

            Classroom Instruction/Use of Force/Qualification   $325  (It pays to do some research beforehand).
            Township/State Police permit fee     $200
            Fingerprinting  $65
            Ammunition   $50

What I can't calculate is how much the liability insurance will cost if that requirement is not repealed.  Anyway, I stopped spending after I completed classroom/use of force/qualification.  Instead of Murph getting my permit fee, I'm sending it to ANJRPC.

 

[Tunaman 552]

21 hours ago, dilbert1967 said:

I hear you and feel your pain.  I now realize I made the situation worse with a bad decision:

            Classroom Instruction/Use of Force/Qualification   $325  (It pays to do some research beforehand).
            Township/State Police permit fee     $200
            Fingerprinting  $65
            Ammunition   $50

What I can't calculate is how much the liability insurance will cost if that requirement is not repealed.  Anyway, I stopped spending after I completed classroom/use of force/qualification.  Instead of Murph getting my permit fee, I'm sending it to ANJRPC.

 

You didnt make a bad decision.  Whatever your training and qualification cost was will aid in your being better qualified and equipped with knowledge you never had. That is worth its; weight in gold.  You also add to the roles of the permitted,  which will show in a year or so how wrong they were/are.

[JackDaWack 2,895]

lol, I can afford it. We all know damn well the majority of people who cant... 

If a free ID card to vote is racist..... well...

 

[dilbert1967 146]

21 hours ago, Tunaman said:

You didnt make a bad decision.  Whatever your training and qualification cost was will aid in your being better qualified and equipped with knowledge you never had. That is worth its; weight in gold.  You also add to the roles of the permitted,  which will show in a year or so how wrong they were/are.

No, I can't add myself to the roles of the permitted, because I only completed the course/qualification course at $325.  But ANJRPC is still getting my donation so maybe they can help other folks.

[Tunaman 552]

On 4/18/2023 at 4:28 PM, oneshot said:

He doesnt give a fuck its not his money ,although he could afford the 500k without blinking. Hes a scumbag, And this state is a lost cause.

Im not jumping through hoops to exercise a constitutional right .Hopefully get out of this democrat run shit hole soon

140000 for a rug!

[45Doll 5,877]

2 hours ago, Tunaman said:

140000 for a rug!

And that was just for the one on his head!