Why? Mosin Nagants and their relatives.

[usnmars 136]

I will put my monster against any remchesterby up to 500yds. If I can shoot less than 1" at 200 yds with milsurp ammo that is over 50 years old, I cannot imadine what it will do with handloads. A mosin is a great platform to squeeze accuracy from. Just a little work and you can make an insane shooter. If you haven't shot one then you don't know what you are missing out on.

[sirsloop 1]

I never said it would be cost effective to make an uber-mosin... just the fact that it is possible for argument sake.

 

Im sure someone would lend you a Mosin to shoot with... not like its a trophy piece or something

[Pew Pew Plates 358]

1st and formost yer all like a bunch of school girls stuck arguing the theoreticals of an insignificant detail instead of the actual point! But Ill play

 

Sirsloop, heres the rub. Go find me a top barrel maker that will spin you up a mosin barrel, have it to you in less than 4 months and not charge you....say 6 times the value of the rifle. Im betting you wont find one to even do it at all...... OK so say it cost $480 bucks (even though it really costs only 200 for a .311 match blank). Thats 560 for rifle and barrel. The cost of a 700 with stock barrel.

 

 

As for those making the group claims, remember, I didnt say 1 moa, I didnt say half, I said 3/8ths! I only know of 2 top top top tier custom builders giving that kind of garuntee! And one of them wont do it on anything but a custom action, not even a trued and blue printed remmy action! Well then I guess the mosins better becuse thats def. possible. And if a 700 can get that so can a mosin. Once "accurized" what sets the 2 apart as far as mechanical accuracy potential?

 

Ronhonda, you make my point for me somewhat. He likely will not win in the super squad but the POINT is he wouldnt try. You use an open gun when competing in open class because thats what is competitive because a limited gun CAN NOT give you the advantages an open gun does. Eh i dont know what that is

 

glennp you also make my point that the 700 can do what a mosin cant, a magnum chambering... so again I dont see the point in comparing a mosin to a 700. Yeah but if comparing apples to apples, you would assume the 700 in same caliber.

 

As for a mosin match, please no. I hate buying more guns just so I can compete in another single discipline!!!! Do it. the cost of a mosin is the price of 2 boxes of match ammo for one of your fancy rifles

 

[Shane45 807]

OK guys, I give, I guess then everything is comparable with everything. :roll: But if usnmars can secure the thou to shoot at at his buddys farm if I recall, I'll bring an AR pattern rifle and a modern bolt action. Anyone can bring whatever mosin they care too and we will shoot at 1000 meters. The you guys can judge if comparisons between the 3 platforms make any freekin sense at all. Hows that.

 

 

Again, I am not bashing mosins, Im bashing wacked out comparisons.....

[sirsloop 1]

lol... thats exactly why I didn't think it was in the spirit or scope of this thread. The topic is "why people buy MN's"... not "How do highly modified Mosin Nagants compare to X".

[Pew Pew Plates 358]

my flintlock pistol is better than any modern rifle you can find. at 1000 yards.

 

EAT IT!

[Shane45 807]

I'll give you 5 grand for it!

[Ray Ray 3,566]

Eric's modified mosin is shooting those groups...

 

Btw... Mosin match rifle...

 

right here.

 

http://www.empirearms.com/28-76.htm

 

But we should organize our very own NJGF MN Match...

 

I'm in! And all we'll need is a bunch of spam cans and spam can openers!

[Krdshrk 3,878]

As long as you're not opening 'em, Ray!

[tbtrout 141]

Holy shit, you guys are still debating this crap?

[Maksim 1,504]

Holy ****, you guys are still debating this crap?

 

 

Tim, dont be a hater... I am picking up another one.

[Ray Ray 3,566]

I blame Shane! He's dead set on making Mosin's illegal in NJ. He also hates most of my guns. (Para, CX4, Stag, SR9, and all my revolvers!)

 

I still love him.

[Krdshrk 3,878]

I blame Shane! He's dead set on making Mosin's illegal in NJ. He also hates most of my guns. (Para, CX4, Stag, SR9, and all my revolvers!)

 

I still love him.

 

Everyone hates your SR9

[tbtrout 141]

The SR9 does suck Ray

[Ray Ray 3,566]

Everyone hates your SR9

The SR9 does suck Ray

 

Okay Okay, but it feels so good in my hand. And it's only the trigger that sucks, that can be tuned.

[JSF01 13]

Well the why has been answered a number of times so instead Ill post a picture of me enjoying mine

[Shane45 807]

Heres an honest to goodness mosin question. Every vid I see, the operator seems to be wrestling heavily with the bolt. Are they just not used to it or is it difficult to manipulate?

 

And ray, I dont hate Stag, after all its an AR and I dont hate revolvers, I just hate them for me unless its a freedom arms 4 3/4" 454 :twisted:

[tbtrout 141]

Shane, they are awkward to manipulate, but once you get use to them they are easy. It takes time to get use to a strait bolt, and poor cleaning can contribute to a sticky bolt.

[sirsloop 1]

The bolt handle is quite short and its not a very smooth design. Its not like a modern bolt you can finesse into place. Best bet here is to wack it open, rack it, and wack it home.

[ronhonda 86]

1st and formost yer all like a bunch of school girls stuck arguing the theoreticals of an insignificant detail instead of the actual point! But Ill play

 

 

 

Ronhonda, you make my point for me somewhat. He likely will not win in the super squad but the POINT is he wouldnt try. You use an open gun when competing in open class because thats what is competitive because a limited gun CAN NOT give you the advantages an open gun does.

If you have a talented shooter, (an A, M, or GM) using a limited gun but shooting open, could place very high or even win. It is possible. Look at overall scores from local USPSA matches, many times you have shooters from other divisions placing higher than some open shooters.

[Shane45 807]

ronhonda, I think you are missing my point. Forget competing against others. Can YOU ultimately go faster with an open gun or a stock glock against yourself for fastest possible time? Which wins? My point is you can go faster with the open gun because of what an open gun can do that a stocker cant, the advantages it gives. Conversely a stocker can do things an open gun cant like get thrown down a hallway and still work because theirs no cmore to snap off etc etc. Its not an argument of possibilities, its an argument of comparing apples to oranges. The space shuttle and a piper cub both fly, doesnt mean they are comparable. If I want to win a race to the clouds, I think Ill choose the space shuttle.

[tuktuk 16]

Mosinkiz are the best!!!!! they re history. they re a livin proof that a peasant armed with a good bolt action rifle can bring down the most powerful of military. 8) ok ok im generalizing but it sounds really kool

[Ray Ray 3,566]

Heres an honest to goodness mosin question. Every vid I see, the operator seems to be wrestling heavily with the bolt. Are they just not used to it or is it difficult to manipulate?

 

And ray, I dont hate Stag, after all its an AR and I dont hate revolvers, I just hate them for me unless its a freedom arms 4 3/4" 454 :twisted:

 

I can work the bolt on mine pretty fast. It's actually easier to work for a lefty than a righty, in my opinion.

[theRU 33]

ronhonda, I think you are missing my point. Forget competing against others. Can YOU ultimately go faster with an open gun or a stock glock against yourself for fastest possible time? Which wins? My point is you can go faster with the open gun because of what an open gun can do that a stocker cant, the advantages it gives. Conversely a stocker can do things an open gun cant like get thrown down a hallway and still work because theirs no cmore to snap off etc etc. Its not an argument of possibilities, its an argument of comparing apples to oranges. The space shuttle and a piper cub both fly, doesnt mean they are comparable. If I want to win a race to the clouds, I think Ill choose the space shuttle.

 

 

actually i think an f/a-18 would be the best bet to get to the clouds quickest. Those damn shuttles take a long time to get off the ground.

[Shane45 807]

Ahhh I'll stick with the shuttle...

 

"To achieve orbit, the shuttle must accelerate from zero to a speed of almost 28,968 kilometers per hour (18,000 miles per hour), a speed nine times as fast as the average rifle bullet."

 

 

By the way, I secured my self a seat on a Rusky jet!!! Awaiting details

[Maksim 1,504]

No way shane. When did you secure incredible adventures? Flight over Moscow or low orbit?

[Shane45 807]

None of the above. Privately owned

[Maksim 1,504]

NJJim shot the mosin today!

[tommy3rd 132]

NJJim shot the mosin today!

So, what's the verdict? Do we have a convert? Lol

[NJJim 37]

NJJim shot the mosin today!

So, what's the verdict? Do we have a convert? Lol

 

My Sig 556 has a bigger fireball and louder bang!