keithco88 3 Posted April 23, 2012 I have no information other than what's in the article. If it's true that's a big black eye for an organization that I know a chunk of people on the forums here have a good amount of respect for. Sucks when a few dumb people ruin it for everyone else I guess. I hope it's exaggerated, but if its not I hope the cops roll on those involved and they all lose their cars, licenses and get hefty fines & community service. http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2012/04/nj_state_troopers_face_probe_f.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheLugNutZ 21 Posted April 23, 2012 You know what, this really pisses me off. I will admit, I am a car guy, and can appreciate what a vehicle car do, speed/handling etc, but I take it VERY personally when my safety is in danger b/c you want to drive like a d bag on the public roads. I know i personally would be REAL pissed off if they passed me driving like a-holes and cant believe the NJSP escorted them with their lic plates taped off. You gotta be kidding me! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A-Tech 8 Posted April 23, 2012 Considering their license plates were taped over, I would assume it wasn't authorized. Also, consider the fact that they didn't block off traffic across all lanes so that the "speeders" couldn't cause an accident among other drivers. I remember doing the Toy's for Tots Corvette drive a while back and the State Police blocked all traffic on the Parkway for this. Speeding down the Left lane with sirens and lights, forcing people out of the way so that 25+ sports cars doubling the speed limit, is outrageous. They should all lose their jobs and license for doing this. It reflects on the entire NJSP, which I'm sure a lot of other officers aren't happy about. Absolutely unacceptable. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smokin .50 1,907 Posted April 23, 2012 Just goes to show that SOME Cops can give all Cops a black eye. Looks like another US vs. Them story brewing to me...... If this is true, there will be video footage of it going through more than one toll plaza. I wonder if they paid the tolls or blew through them too? More violations! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueLineFish 615 Posted April 23, 2012 If this is true I will be the first to say that there should be repercussions for this. Yes...SOME do ruin the reps of the whole. THere is no excuse for taped up plates. To me that constitutes theft of service for intentionally dodging the ez pass plus the numerous title 39 violations. I don't condone the officers being fired but some sort of disciplinary action should be taken if this is true. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keithco88 3 Posted April 23, 2012 If this is true I will be the first to say that there should be repercussions for this. Yes...SOME do ruin the reps of the whole. THere is no excuse for taped up plates. To me that constitutes theft of service for intentionally dodging the ez pass plus the numerous title 39 violations. I don't condone the officers being fired but some sort of disciplinary action should be taken if this is true. Devil's advocate...and I'm not sure this is the best analogy, but how is this not akin to an inside job by a bank employee? You're subverting the function you're supposed to provide, possibly getting paid for it, and putting innocent people at risk so others can break the law and "profit" from it (in this case profit is simply the enjoyment of driving awesome cars the way they were designed to be). I think we'd expect the bank employee to be fired and see prison time wouldn't we? Understand LEOs put their life on the line and maybe deserve a little slack...but I assume we'd be talking much more serious consequences if somebody HAD been injured during this little escapade. What if the bank employee's inside job failed, nobody got hurt, the robbers got away with no money...would we still expect the bank employee to be fired and put on trial? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old School 611 Posted April 23, 2012 I this allegation is true.... This was orchestrated at a higher level than the individual officers and I'll bet they were only doing what they were told to do. Doesn't make it right... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yotafan 1 Posted April 23, 2012 If this is true I will be the first to say that there should be repercussions for this. Yes...SOME do ruin the reps of the whole. THere is no excuse for taped up plates. To me that constitutes theft of service for intentionally dodging the ez pass plus the numerous title 39 violations. I don't condone the officers being fired but some sort of disciplinary action should be taken if this is true. I agree with Blue Line there should def be repercussions but i disagree with firing the officers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shane45 807 Posted April 23, 2012 I wish I knew! I would have been out to play Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
greatgunstatenj 32 Posted April 23, 2012 I agree with Blue Line there should def be repercussions but i disagree with firing the officers. Disagree with both. If allegations are true they should be fired, regardless of whether they are rank and file or in some position of authority. They are "officers of the law" and they should be held to a higher standard. They put the public at risk, they put themselves and their equipment at risk, they let the other drivers break the law, and they possibly blew tolls as well. Either their judgment is questionable or they feel the badge puts them above the law. Either way, they shouldn't be patrolling our highways. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
this_is_nascar 162 Posted April 23, 2012 WOW. Not sure which part of this bothers me the most, but the taping off of the plate numbers is very concerning. If it was an approved act (which I hope to God it was not), then they're be no reason to tape off the plates I'd think. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Adam 6 Posted April 23, 2012 This has been going on for years.. Now it's a big deal? Sounds like someone got left out to me.. And yes, it has. There is an extremely private forum for these guys and they set these up all over NJ/PA/NY.. Truely surprised it has taken this long. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DevsAdvocate 112 Posted April 23, 2012 If this is true I will be the first to say that there should be repercussions for this. Yes...SOME do ruin the reps of the whole. THere is no excuse for taped up plates. To me that constitutes theft of service for intentionally dodging the ez pass plus the numerous title 39 violations. I don't condone the officers being fired but some sort of disciplinary action should be taken if this is true. You don't seem to get it dude... the fact that the 'good cops' sit on their asses and let the 'bad' ones get away from this behavior hurts you all. With the responsibility of upholding the law, you should be held to a higher standard than other people and punished far more severely. I mean shit... when a cop breaks the law, it's always worse because they're supposed to know the laws and enforce them on others. Personally, the police officers involved should face 50 lashes in front of the State promptly followed by being fired, pensions revoked, license to drive revoked, and barred from any state job. Perhaps even a revocation of their firearms rights as well. As for the owners of the automobiles in question: immediate confiscation by the state and put them up for auction + $500,000 fine. Drivers will have licenses revoked and be banned from driving through the state of NJ permanently. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
this_is_nascar 162 Posted April 23, 2012 This has been going on for years.. Now it's a big deal? Sounds like someone got left out to me.. And yes, it has. There is an extremely private forum for these guys and they set these up all over NJ/PA/NY.. Truely surprised it has taken this long. Interesting. I've never heard of them before. Kind of like a "Cannonball Run" I guess. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rdsmith3 19 Posted April 23, 2012 This has been going on for years.. Now it's a big deal? Sounds like someone got left out to me.. And yes, it has. There is an extremely private forum for these guys and they set these up all over NJ/PA/NY.. Truely surprised it has taken this long. Yes, these types of activities happen all the time, but not sure about the police escort. (Perhaps Corzine was in the car for this run.) I know that there is an exotic car club based in Chester. The members pool money and buy these cars. They go on runs, and will swap cars at every stop. I was once contacted by a photographer, hired by the club, who wanted me to take him on my motorcycle so he could shoot the exotic cars on a run through the back roads of Warren and Hunterdon counties. I met with him, discussed the situation, and then I declined to do it because I thought it was too risky, especially for him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Adam 6 Posted April 23, 2012 Ill come back to this later with some more comments. I passed on an invite (challenge?) from a member of I believe the Northern NJ "chapter" of these guys. I wanted a "fun run" he wanted a 10k payout. I sure as hell don't have that loot so nothing ever came of it.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Secret Squirrel 3 Posted April 23, 2012 What annoys me is that I wasn't invited. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hd2000fxdl 422 Posted April 23, 2012 OK when's the NJGF Cannonball??? LOL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Adam 6 Posted April 23, 2012 Search YouTube.. Plenty of videos of these guys all over.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midwest 28 Posted April 23, 2012 I have a dumb question.....Were these guys making a movie,documentary,reality tv show and 'forgot to tell the higher ups' ? Can someone contact the motion picture liaison in NJ and see if they know anything? There must be a motion picture office/dept. in NJ as movies and TV shows are made there... Forgive me for asking, I'm from Kentucky.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rdsmith3 19 Posted April 23, 2012 Here is the place I was thinking of: http://www.vulcanmotorclub.com/who_we_are.php Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RubberBullets 65 Posted April 23, 2012 http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2012/04/video_shows_nj_state_police_le.html\ NJ.com has video from two asshats seemingly having an orgasm as they tried to keep up. It sure looks like wrongdoing on the trooper's part, but certainly not as crazy as those saying speeds in excess of 100mph stated. Dunno you be the judge. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernYankee 94 Posted April 23, 2012 That video was from 2010. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RubberBullets 65 Posted April 23, 2012 That video was from 2010. You sir are correct, I did not read the vid caption, which apparently makes matters worse because this isnt the first time Apparently there is still good in my screw ups to point out that they apparently hadnt learned their lesson from the first time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smokin .50 1,907 Posted April 23, 2012 Find out who was driving and FIRE THEM! If their bosses approved it, then FIRE THEM TOO! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
this_is_nascar 162 Posted April 23, 2012 Find out who was driving and FIRE THEM! If their bosses approved it, then FIRE THEM TOO! All the escorting and "racing" aside, there has to be some serious repercussions from tampering with the plate numbers. Anyone know if that's a felony offense? I'm thinking it would be. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheLugNutZ 21 Posted April 23, 2012 They didnt really tamper, they just made it so you couldnt read them. More like failure to display/ficticious plates. (ticket i got when i didnt have a front plate ) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smokin .50 1,907 Posted April 23, 2012 I don't think that it rises to the level of a felony. It is "a crime of the Xth degree" misdemeanor wise, such as "ficticious plates", where plate-swapping has happened. If no property was stolen (Grand Theft-Auto), then it's sort of like ficticious plates. Still a serious fine, only no jail time. In that 2010 video, those asshats drove right past my house just about! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
this_is_nascar 162 Posted April 23, 2012 OK, thanks. That makes sense. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KpdPipes 388 Posted April 23, 2012 I agree with Blue Line there should def be repercussions but i disagree with firing the officers. Sorry but I disagree...I can almost guarantee that the Sgt will lose his job, and possibly face criminal charges for misconduct While NJSP DOES do Escorts, these circumstances go so far beyond the pale that it's not even funny. About the only thing in question is if the other Trooper will only be demoted, or fired altogether. This wasnt a case of somebody stepping on their dick, THIS was a case of someone putting on a pair of golf shoes and doing an entire soft-shoe on his junk. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites