bulpup 98 Posted July 17, 2012 I wonder if ABC news and its shooter report considered this kind of scenario. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jpv6dJZhg0U Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Malsua 1,422 Posted July 17, 2012 See, .380 isn't enough Well...it did send them fleeing, but unfortunately, not to the morgue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bulpup 98 Posted July 17, 2012 He must have hit at least once right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lunker 274 Posted July 17, 2012 Stories like these are buried by the mainstream news. Anything that promotes self-reliance instead of Government dependency will be ignored. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bulpup 98 Posted July 17, 2012 I found it on the New York Post website. I just couldn't embed the video from it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,877 Posted July 17, 2012 I found it on the New York Post website. I just couldn't embed the video from it. Linky? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
antimatter 139 Posted July 17, 2012 props to that guy! good job! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,877 Posted July 17, 2012 I can't find the link at all on the NY Post webpage..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheDon 3 Posted July 17, 2012 You are all gonna jump on me, but IMHO that shoot turned bad after the second shot. Its wrong to keep shooting someone who is running away from you, on the ground, and especially running out the door. The running out the door shot was also irresponsible because he could have injured someone in the street. If he had learned to shoot and carried a .45 ultralite instead of that pussy 380, it would have been over with 1 shot. But all-in-all. July 13 was a good day for CCW rights in FL. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bulpup 98 Posted July 17, 2012 Linky? Its in the video rotator with no more info. Daily news has this http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/elderly-florida-man-shot-cafe-robbers-ulikely-face-charges-prosecutors-article-1.1116371 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bulpup 98 Posted July 17, 2012 You are all gonna jump on me, but IMHO that shoot turned bad after the second shot. Its wrong to keep shooting someone who is running away from you, on the ground, and especially running out the door. It certainly likes like the old guy wants a kill. I look at it as keeping the initiative, IMHO. Just because a guy turns his back to run doesn't mean he won't turn back - from cover - and return fire. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
woodentoe 14 Posted July 17, 2012 He certainly got overcome by the stress of it. more like pointing than aiming. And he failed to immediately find any adequate cover before shooting....against two armed assailants. Brave, dumb and lucky. This isn't to say I'd not have been shitting my britches too. What is it they say, it's better to be lucky than smart? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Texan 1 Posted July 17, 2012 You are all gonna jump on me, but IMHO that shoot turned bad after the second shot. Its wrong to keep shooting someone who is running away from you, on the ground, and especially running out the door. The running out the door shot was also irresponsible because he could have injured someone in the street. Would agree but the mind set would be. I feared for everyones life. It looked as he was getting down to retreive his firearm that I thought he had dropped so I continued to shoot. After they exited the building, there was no longer a threat. I did not pursue and stayed inside. Of course he is liable for any damage to others. Your life isn't a guessing game of what a criminal is going to do next. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dan 177 Posted July 17, 2012 Good to see people defending themselves against worthless thugs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted July 17, 2012 You are all gonna jump on me, but IMHO that shoot turned bad after the second shot. Its wrong to keep shooting someone who is running away from you, on the ground, and especially running out the door. The running out the door shot was also irresponsible because he could have injured someone in the street. I look at it as keeping the initiative, IMHO. Just because a guy turns his back to run doesn't mean he won't turn back - from cover - and return fire. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,877 Posted July 18, 2012 Scratch that - found more, better info: http://www.gainesville.com/article/20120714/ARTICLES/120719763/0/news Not long afterward, deputies got a call about two men at a Marion Oaks residence who were telling people there that they had been shot while at Scott Carrigan Baseball Park on Southeast 17th Street in Ocala. Police Department officers went to the ball field but found no evidence of a shooting there, according to sheriff's officials. The two men were transported — one by helicopter — to Shands at the University of Florida in Gainesville. The Sheriff's Office identified them as Davis G. Dawkins and Duwayne Henderson, both 19. Dawkins has a Dunnellon address. His alleged accomplice has an Ocala address, officials said. Dawkins had a superficial wound in his left arm, but Henderson was shot in two places: his left buttock and his right hip. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smokin .50 1,907 Posted July 18, 2012 For 71 years old, he did pretty darn good IMHO! BRAVO Sir! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tosser 61 Posted July 18, 2012 Looks like a clean shoot. Good for him, refusing to be a victim. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
One_crazy_dude 1 Posted July 18, 2012 For 71 years old, he did pretty darn good IMHO! BRAVO Sir! That is what I was thinking. Man of his age moving and aiming like that, I can only hope I'm in that shape at that age. God bless him and way to go old man. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jon 264 Posted July 18, 2012 Old badasses are awesome. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikeyboyeee 66 Posted July 18, 2012 Good god damn case for CCW in every state if u ask me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GRIZ 3,369 Posted July 18, 2012 Good that it all worked out okay. However, it was kind of reckless to get up and start shooting with all those people around. If the bad guys started shooting back its very likely someone would have been hit. Yes, it would have been the bad guys fault but would you want to live with the fact an innocent person is dead from a bullet meant for you? I realize to some this is a CCWers "dream", take out the bad guys during a robbery and be the hero. Sometimes the best thing is to do is draw and start shooting. I don't think this was one of them. Moreso, dealing with two cretins. Old guys can move pretty good because we have learned how to conserve our energy. Its great that everything worked out okay but this video is not an example of how to do things. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
djg0770 481 Posted July 18, 2012 Good that it all worked out okay. However, it was kind of reckless to get up and start shooting with all those people around. If the bad guys started shooting back its very likely someone would have been hit. Yes, it would have been the bad guys fault but would you want to live with the fact an innocent person is dead from a bullet meant for you? I realize to some this is a CCWers "dream", take out the bad guys during a robbery and be the hero. Sometimes the best thing is to do is draw and start shooting. I don't think this was one of them. Moreso, dealing with two cretins. Old guys can move pretty good because we have learned how to conserve our energy. Its great that everything worked out okay but this video is not an example of how to do things. Excellent monday morning quarterbacking Griz. Criminals, in general, are cowards. Look how shitbag #2 ran over shitbag #1 to get out the door. No honor among thieves. Their motto is "Every man for himself, every man left behind, me first." That's why they fit in society so well today. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DbleTrouble 8 Posted July 18, 2012 That is a great example why we need to allow Concealed Carry in NJ. So that people can protect themselves in a situations like this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
destro23 0 Posted July 18, 2012 It's front page Yahoo now! Good Morning america did a piece on it http://gma.yahoo.com/florida-man-71-shoots-alleged-robbers-internet-cafe-110406403--abc-news-topstories.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smokin .50 1,907 Posted July 18, 2012 It made CBS network this morning too! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GRIZ 3,369 Posted July 18, 2012 Excellent monday morning quarterbacking Griz. Criminals, in general, are cowards. Look how shitbag #2 ran over shitbag #1 to get out the door. No honor among thieves. Their motto is "Every man for himself, every man left behind, me first." That's why they fit in society so well today. Yes it is but doing an after action is how we learn to do things better. However, if you don't critique an operation you'll be condemned to repeating any mistakes you've made. The Army (and a lot of LE agencies) has required an after action critique. What you did right, what you did wrong, what to sustain, and what you need to improve. You also have to be truthful to yourself and admit what you did wrong or could have done better. I've made mistakes and admitted them and I've seen Generals admit mistakes. I made lieutenant colonel but I made a lot of mistakes getting there. Don't know anyone who hasn't. "Only a fool learns by their own mistakes, I learn by the mistakes of others", is credited to Bismarck and others. I spent over 30 years as a LEO. I don't know if I would make a blanket statement about criminals being cowards. LEOs get in all kinds of fights with criminals on a regular basis. Even those that may be cowards can decide to fight if cornered. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
destro23 0 Posted July 18, 2012 yea on another note... 2 days ago some guy goes to a bar with an AR type gun and opens fire and injures 17 people.... http://abcnews.go.com/US/gunman-opens-fire-tuscaloosa-bar-multiple-people-shot/story?id=16793102 good to see old man... sad to see this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PeteF 1,044 Posted July 18, 2012 yea on another note... 2 days ago some guy goes to a bar with an AR type gun and opens fire and injures 17 people.... http://abcnews.go.co...ory?id=16793102 good to see old man... sad to see this Even worse was guy who shot up the bar wanted cops to come and shoot him, but changed his mind and ran away. Brain defective piece of chicken s%&t either way. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites