Bizzar response by NRA over CT attrocities

[Combat Auto 174]

No response by NRA yet...

 

I don't think it is good...

 

Just allows the socialists more room to define the CT attrocities as a gun issue, define the NRA as not giving a crap, and define gun ownership in general as bad.

 

NRA folks should be on every talk show possible, stating our case, pointing to the root causes, educating the public, showing compasion, and offering up solutions...You can not repeat your view enough when it comes to these things.

 

I work in a job where messaging is a big part of success, I know from over 30 years experience, the longer you are silent, the more the situation will be defined by others, and the harder it will be to change views...

 

Momentum is building (ie accelearting) in the public agains the gun community and the NRA is silent - Bizzar!

 

-Joe (NRA member)

[Bully 749]

As much as I think Bill O'Reilly is a tool, they did ask the NRA for a spokesman to be on their show last nite and it was declined. I think they don't want to be portrayed as "heartless" gun nuts, but the duck and cover philosophy just can't work.

 

C

[RS1200XL 4]

And they pulled their facebook page. This is why have never and will never be a member of the NRA.

[ruger9 0]

I've always preferred the GOAs "tactics"... money spent on lobbying, not on magazines and countless letters asking for re-joining, and a much more no-compromise stance than the NRA has taken over the years... and to those who think a no-compromise stance on a constitutional right is the "wrong way to go", well... we can see where the NRAs "reasonable, compromising" tactics have gotten us over the last 50 years... more and more increasing gun control.

 

I'm afraid I'm done with the compromising, because it will never end... until we "compromise" ourselves right out of our 2A right.

[Duppie 73]

"Playing Possum" I believe was bantered around smugly on various news orgs..... While difficult to maintain a stance in light of what happened, total silence is a mistake IMHO.

[BigHayden 77]

I've always preferred the GOAs "tactics"... money spent on lobbying, not on magazines and countless letters asking for re-joining, and a much more no-compromise stance than the NRA has taken over the years... and to those who think a no-compromise stance on a constitutional right is the "wrong way to go", well... we can see where the NRAs "reasonable, compromising" tactics have gotten us over the last 50 years... more and more increasing gun control.

 

I'm afraid I'm done with the compromising, because it will never end... until we "compromise" ourselves right out of our 2A right.

 

Which is why all the politicians are being asked to "stand up to the GOA", right?

 

You might agree more with GOA's tactics, but the fact still remains that the NRA is our voice in DC and the only thing that the politicians care about is numbers. It is imperative that we all belong to the NRA so we cannot be marginalized.

 

Besides, if you don't like something that the NRA is doing, you can always vote for new board members or call them to express your displeasure.

 

Why not belong to both?

[ruger9 0]

 

 

Why not belong to both?

 

I do. As well as NJ2AS. I merely said I preferred the GOA's approach.

[BigHayden 77]

I do. As well as NJ2AS. I merely said I preferred the GOA's approach.

 

Great!

 

I think I'll be signing up all three of my sons today for NRA associate memberships. I just don't have the money to make them Life members yet.

[Fawkesguy 57]

Great!

 

I think I'll be signing up all three of my sons today for NRA associate memberships. I just don't have the money to make them Life members yet.

 

I just signed up my 11 year old for the Easy Pay Life program. $25 per quarter. I think I'll sign up my 7 year old too. I've been a lifer for 20 years.

[MarkWVU02 47]

The lack of a response by the NRA is really going to hurt the cause.

[Duppie 73]

The lack of a response by the NRA is really going to hurt the cause.

+1

[gunnarsport 13]

I would suspect the NRA is just waiting for the mass hysteria and gross overractions to settle down a bit. Once the media news cycle changes, which seems to be starting today and the media punndits STOP hyperventilating, im sure

the NRA will come out with a strong statement. Just give it a few more days, mostly likely this weekend. They are playing it smart, im my opinion.

 

The media CANT keep the 24/7 of this story much longer, they have to move on to the other news. Than more common sense will prevail. This is NOT 911! As sick and horrible as this event was, it is VERY rare and

isolated. But, of course, the media does not want to hear that. They want the high ratings.

[MarkWVU02 47]

 

 

Yes they are...and let's face it.....MAYBE they have morals and NOW is NOT the right time to begin the discussion, while families are laying their children to rest.... just a thought

 

I understand this but almost every single media outlet has someone from the anti-gun crowd and then they say the reached out to the NRA with no response. Maybe an NRA representative should have a statement like "we'll discuss our stance on the issue when we're done mourning the tragic loss of life, we don't feel at this time that we need to discuss an issue when the funerals of the beautiful innocent children haven't even happened". That'll make it look like their sensitive to the tragedy as well as willing to talk. Complete silence makes them look bad IMHO.

[bulpup 98]

Piers morgan had John Lott on and it turned into a **** fest dogpile up on the guns guy. With emotions as they are they are probably thinking why set themselves up in the dunking booth.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgYMOZD6xtc&sns=em

 

 

Now y'all know what I have been saying about this. That gun owners have to be prepared to talk about the lack of mental health care in this country instead of serving up the same old reasoning.

The NRA didn't have any talking points other than what they already did and just as I have been saying, since before Jared Laughner even, its the nut jobs that will force the gun control issue.

 

The NRA like so many others are wholly unprepared to talk about that and in the heat if recent events their old diatribe looks naive.

 

 

 

 

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[gunnarsport 13]

MarkWVU02,

Thats a excellent thought! That would have been a great statement for them to make.

[gunnarsport 13]

Another thought also....

 

Our side has too been guilty of some gross exaggerations. NOBODY, and I mean NOBODY,is ever gonna come to your home and confiscate your firearms and ammo! Is just NOT gonna happen.

[Duppie 73]

I understand this but almost every single media outlet has someone from the anti-gun crowd and then they say the reached out to the NRA with no response. Maybe an NRA representative should have a statement like "we'll discuss our stance on the issue when we're done mourning the tragic loss of life, we don't feel at this time that we need to discuss an issue when the funerals of the beautiful innocent children haven't even happened". That'll make it look like their sensitive to the tragedy as well as willing to talk. Complete silence makes them look bad IMHO.

Agreed. A short,concise statement such as you've written would have gone a long way in turning down the volume on critics asking for something,anything from the NRA.

[Vlad G 345]

Personally I wrote to the NRA and asked to end their silence. We are agree or disagree on what they should say, but they should say something or it looks like they are in hiding.

[njluger 5]

I think the NRA's silence is echoed by much of the firearms industry and it's really sad. I went to several prominent manufacturer's pages and not a note at all anywhere regarding this tragedy. Something as simple as offering condolences to the families of the victims would go a long way to show that the gun community isn't a bunch of cold, heartless killers, like the media is portraying us. The manufacturer's page that had anything was CZ USA and Dan Wesson...more should follow suit. I agree with what was written earlier, give time for the nation to grieve and then it'll be time to discuss the issues at hand.

[H.M. Murdock 0]

Perhaps the firearms manufacturers are worried that the anti's would sieze on such a statement as the manufacturer indicating culpability. What we see as a compassionate note will not be viewed as such by the anti's. The link between gun manufacturers and the events in Newtown is so tenuous and the atrocity so heinous that any voluntary association with the atrocity can only serve to legitimize anti's claims of a link. I think organizations linked to firearms should only be responding if they are directly accused or disparaged by the anti's, i.e. the NRA. Hopefully in the next couple days..

[this_is_nascar 162]

The lack of a response by the NRA is really going to hurt the cause.

 

 

I totally agree with this. By now, they should have made a statement showing their sadness for the loss of life, but also explaining how anything in the hands of a bad person can be a bad thing. These guns are not the issue, it's the people using them. The NRA should have talked to and gotten a statement from the Superintendent of that school district in Texas that started concealed carry within the schools after the incident with the Amish School. The should have been right there making a statement, rather than doing what they did.

[PDM 91]

Ya know, I've become so sickened by the media coverage of this tragedy -- and I really do believe that the media contributes to the likelihood of copycat shooters -- that I've been thinking that perhaps the NRA is right, and that there silence has been respectful and smart. But that window is rapidly drawing to a close. In a day, maybe two, they will need to say something. Rightly or wrongly (mostly wrongly), this issue has become virtually solely about guns. They need to break their silence and be smart, very, very smart about what they say. Perhaps they are first meeting with pro-2A congress people. That would be a good place to start because whatever they do say the landscape has changed and they will be faced with a fight the likes of which has not been seen before.

[matty 810]

The NRA is SMART to keep quiet for now. Why go on unfriendly media outlets with their SCREAMING A**HOLES like O'rielly, etc. Don't give them a target. The MSMS is defining the medai playing field for now. Just don't show up, you know they will scream KILLER at you. Let the rage subside. The media and Dems are Anti-2A anyway, let them freak pout and have the people in the trenches (us) fight for now on line and get organized with counterarguments. After Christmas, this will fade out from the headlines.

Facebook pages are overrated

 

This is an orchestrated Info Ops campaign by the Left Anti-2A forces to exploit this tragedy. There is much longer and grueling fight ahead They have been prepping the battlespace for months, from their side (emphasizing semi-automatic guns, for instance). They have had something in mind as a response (new AWB) for YEARS. The NRA has been in the sights of the Obama people since they won again, this tragedy also gives them an opportunity for REVENGE This will be a long difficult fight. Don't start fracturing now, that's just what THEY want. If the NRA goes away, the SAF and GOA and others are too small to help.

 

BUCK UP!

[O-gre 7]

The NRA is SMART to keep quiet for now. Why go on unfriendly media outlets with their SCREAMING A**HOLES like O'rielly, etc. Don't give them a target. The MSMS is defining the medai playing field for now. Just don't show up, you know they will scream KILLER at you. Let the rage subside. The media and Dems are Anti-2A anyway, let them freak pout and have the people in the trenches (us) fight for now on line and get organized with counterarguments. After Christmas, this will fade out from the headlines.

Facebook pages are overrated

 

This is an orchestrated Info Ops campaign by the Left Anti-2A forces to exploit this tragedy. There is much longer and grueling fight ahead They have been prepping the battlespace for months, from their side (emphasizing semi-automatic guns, for instance). They have had something in mind as a response (new AWB) for YEARS. The NRA has been in the sights of the Obama people since they won again, this tragedy also gives them an opportunity for REVENGE This will be a long difficult fight. Don't start fracturing now, that's just what THEY want. If the NRA goes away, the SAF and GOA and others are too small to help.

 

BUCK UP!

This!

[KpdPipes 388]

The lack of a response by the NRA is really going to hurt the cause.

 

NRA is in a NO win position..if they Did respond, they would be accused of Politicizing the deaths of children..NEVERMIND the fact that the usual Asshats were calling for gun control before the blood had dried. They tried to take the high road...it didnt work.

[Vlad G 345]

Apparently the folks that have called the NRA about their silence where told that the NRA is waiting for the victims to be buried before involving themselves in the conversation.

 

Trying to get involved in the current shrill shouting match might indeed be counter productive.

[gunnarsport 13]

Yup, give this story till the end of this weekend, and this issue will QUICKLY fade into the backgound as the focus will shift to fiscal cliff, christmas and new year's eve.

Than we can all relax. This NON STOP gun control talk CANNOT and will not continue 24/7 after this weekend. The media will just switch back to everyday news.

Come next Monday it will be Christmas Eve and the story will have very little legs left.

 

As quickly as the media drops the Ct shooting story, they will quickly pivot to NON STOP fiscal cliff talk all next week, till New Years Day.

 

And I dont buy for a second all those ultra far left media pundits with the vile rage and screaming. I know they are sickening by the shooting, like everyone else, but I think a part

of that rage,screaming and serious face is more for the camera and to boost ratings.Once that camera red light goes off and they go to commerical, you gonna wonder what goes

on behind the scenes. Im sure they are told they their producers to play it up and look very serious. With all the sad violin ad piano music they play with the stories. They are ALL

about ratings and making money. Very few people will say it, but its the cold hard truth.

[this_is_nascar 162]

I can see it from both sides. Like someone already said, "damned if they do, damned if they don't".

[gunnarsport 13]

NRA to hold news conference on Friday....just posted on www.drudgereport.com

[emt1231 0]

NRA Facebook up again and they just posted.