POLLS: NJ Residents want MORE gun control

[Cemeterys Gun Blob 165]

Here are two links that state NJ residents want more gun control as a means to crack down on gun violence, as opposed to any other type of violence.

 

Scary thing though, if you read carefully, they're using these reports as a means to support the bill Jimenez introduced regarding psych eval's, and home inspection before approving gun ownership.

 

And the poll reports that an increase in gun control crosses all demographics........

 

http://nj1015.com/nj-voters-want-crackdown-on-gun-violence-pollaudio/

http://publicmind.fdu.edu/2013/guns/

[Wojo 98]

Most people in NJ are idiots...look at our governors, senators, congressmen.

[Wojo 98]

Nick, most people in NJ have NO idea what our gun laws are. They only know the lies promoted by the media and King Bloomberg.

[diamondd817 827]

Who here was polled? I was not, and don't know anyone who was.

[AnthonyC83 0]

Taken from the article:

 

"The poll of 700 registered voters statewide was conducted by telephone using both landlines and cell phones from January 2 through January 6, 2013, and has a margin of error of +/-3.7 percentage points."

 

 

 

So basically, it's a bs poll. I can call 700 people of my choosing and say 95% of registered voters want less gun control.

[Wojo 98]

Who? The college campus, the teacher's union, the media circus, the left side of the aisle in Trenton, the NJSP, ...

[RubberBullets 65]

I think there is a stark difference between what people consider gun control and what lawmakers propose. People want less gun crime. People dont want to worry about a crazy person or gang bangers shooting up the place. The problem is people believe gun control and laws stop gun violence which is a proven falsehood. Its not understood that the only folks affected are law abiding citizens. Its easier for the majority of non gun owners to agree on enacting gun control provisions for this reason

[71ragtopgoat 23]

700 people ? Yes thats a fair sampling.

[Vlad G 345]

700 is actually a meaningful number given the size of NJ. Most of Gallup's nationals polls are done on 1000-1500 people an no one complains about that. Now, FD is not exactly known for sane polling methods, like .. what where the questions asked, I don't see those in the poll pdf unless I've gone blind.

[quikz 34]

Those polls reflect the YEARS of anti-2nd Amend political indocturination by the State. Why is it that LRG swaths of the country feels diametrically OPPOSITE to what these NJ stool pigeon poll reflects.

[mipafox 438]

Scary thing though, if you read carefully, they're using these reports as a means to support the bill Jimenez introduced regarding psych eval's, and home inspection before approving gun ownership.

 

Does this guy have any relationship with The Ring Of Fire? Raven et al? The dozen or so companies over the past 40 years?

 

"Jimenez" is such a cliche that I don't know if the current website has anything to do with the original companies:

 

http://jimenezarmsinc.com/

[bhunted 887]

We've done a terrible job educating who Nick? Prior to all this, New Jersians, or for that matter anyone not related to guns, could care less what happens outside their comfy zones. Then after the fact, they all jump on the bandwagon powered by hype and hot air without a decent fact. You can't teach anyone of this magnitude over night no matter what the cause. If people would stop and think and look at both sides of an argument before spouting off or just taken side due to their ignorance, we wouldn't be in half he problems that exist. We are in a complacent generation without a chance of it ever being like it use to be.

 

 

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[hd2000fxdl 422]

We've done a terrible job educating who Nick?

 

Typos courtesy Apple...

 

I'm thinking the general public as a whole.

 

To take it a step further, a lot within the gun community being we are so divided. Not to generalize but hunter care about what effects them, sport shooter worry about what effects them etc;

 

This is the time that we need to get all of the firearms groups together and realize that even if something doesn't effect them now, loose one thing it will be only a matter if time before its there group is effect and them as different groups fall, who's left to fight?

 

Just the way I took that statement

 

 

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[JackDaWack 2,895]

I think NJ.com's poll on the article is survey enough!

 

 

Funny how when the poll is open to everyone you get a miraculous 78%+ against more gun control.

[Handyman 5,682]

Allegedly, one of the questions they asked was whether you own a gun. I'm inclined to think most people would hang up. Someone cold calls you on the phone and asks if you have a gun? This research methodology will most likely help select out antis.

[GlassFanta 0]

I don't know why you guys are trying to claim inaccuracies in the polls, saying it's cold calling, or whatever else other excuses you seem to be trying to come up with.

 

NJ has the lowest per capita firearms ownership in the USA, roughly 1.5 out of 100 people own a gun in NJ. The only place with less per-capita ownership is DC.

 

The poll is accurate. Sorry.

[Vlad G 345]

How did you get 1.5 out of 100? Last I saw a number from a reputable source it was 12% and that

Pre 9/11

[hd2000fxdl 422]

I don't know why you guys are trying to claim inaccuracies in the polls, saying it's cold calling, or whatever else other excuses you seem to be trying to come up with.

 

NJ has the lowest per capita firearms ownership in the USA, roughly 1.5 out of 100 people own a gun in NJ. The only place with less per-capita ownership is DC.

 

The poll is accurate. Sorry.

 

Source??

 

 

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[TR20 47]

Taken from the article:

 

"The poll of 700 registered voters statewide was conducted by telephone using both landlines and cell phones from January 2 through January 6, 2013, and has a margin of error of +/-3.7 percentage points."

 

 

 

So basically, it's a bs poll. I can call 700 people of my choosing and say 95% of registered voters want less gun control.

 

The poll cited is not statistically large enough to be meaningful. In addition, there is no control group of people who are deemed to have feelings in equal parts or no parts, thus constituting the balance. In order to be significant, the questions asked on the poll, the number of people polled and the geography needed to be included. There are many more factors but this should show the poll is not worth the paper or ink used to print it

 

Tom20

[GlassFanta 0]

Data is gathered from NICS and compiled over an 18 month period. Keep in mind Kentucky is skewed because they run a NICS check on every person with a CCW every month. This also does not factor in private sales, of which likely boosts the numbers in most states by a considerable margin. And to add to that fact, this is simply purchases, so NJ likely has an even smaller number of enthusiasts who simply buy many guns per year, as opposed to a large population of avid gun owners.

 

Once again, by looking at NICS data, I'm not sure how anyone can feel that NJ has any significant number of gun owners. I suspect confirmation bias, people who own guns may associate with family/friends who also own guns or feel the same way about them, and thus come away with a skewed viewpoint from inside what is known to statisticians as an information bubble.

 

1, Kentucky

Population:4,314,113

NICS background checks per 100,000 residents (Dec. 2008 – May 2010): 134,028

 

2, Utah

Population:2,784,572

NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 30,315

 

3, Montana

Population:974,989

NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 25,745

 

4, Wyoming

Population:544,270

NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 22,827

 

5, Alaska

Population:698,473

NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 22,273

 

6, West Virginia

Population:1,819,777

NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 21,455

 

7, South Dakota

Population:812,383

NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 19,062

 

8, North Dakota

Population:646,844

NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 17,829

 

9, Arkansas

Population:2,889,450

NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 17,483

 

10, Alabama

Population:4,708,708

NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 16,860

 

11, Tennessee

Population: 6,296,254

NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 16,684

 

12, Oklahoma

Population: 3,687,050

NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 15,801

 

13, Idaho

Population: 1,545,801

NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 15,764

 

14, Colorado

Population: 5,024,748

NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 15,086

 

15, Missouri

Population: 5,987,580

NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 14,712

 

16, New Hampshire

Population: 1,324,575

NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 14,522

 

17, Mississippi

Population: 2,951,996

NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 14,165

 

18, Illinois

Population: 12,910,409

NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 13,879

 

19, Connecticut

Population: 3,518,288

NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 13,783

 

20, New Mexico

Population: 2,009,671

NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 13,408

 

21, Louisiana

Population: 4,492,076

NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 13,329

 

22, Minnesota

Population: 5,266,214

NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 13,285

23, Kansas

Population: 2,818,747

NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 12,516

 

24, Washington

Population: 6,664,195

NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 12,508

 

25, Pennsylvania

Population: 12,604,767

NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 12,449

 

26, Oregon

Population: 3,825,657

NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 12,059

 

27, Indiana

Population: 6,423,113

NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 11,614

 

28, South Carolina

Population: 4,561,242

NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 11,578

 

29, Maine

Population: 1,318,301

NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 11,528

 

30, Virginia

Population: 7,882,590

NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 10,134

 

31, Iowa

Population: 3,007,856

NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 10,127

 

32, Nevada

Population: 2,643,085

NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 10,115

 

33, Texas

Population: 24,782,302

NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 9,936

 

34, North Carolina

Population: 9,380,884

NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 9,411

 

35, Vermont

Population: 621,760

NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 9,366

 

36, Georgia

Population: 9,829,211

NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 9,200

 

37, Michigan

Population: 9,969,727

NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 9,030

 

38, Wisconsin

Population: 5,654,774

NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 8,534

 

39, Ohio

Population: 11,542,645

NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 8,491

 

40, Nebraska

Population: 1,796,619

NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 8,081

 

41, Arizona

Population: 6,595,778

NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 7,954

 

42, Florida

Population: 18,537,969

NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 7,510

 

43, Delaware

Population: 885,122

NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 5,636

 

44, California

Population: 36,961,664

NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 5,444

45, Maryland

Population: 5,699,478

NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 4,040

 

46, Massachusetts

Population: 6,593,587

NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 3,796

 

47, Rhode Island

Population: 1,053,209

NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 3,504

 

48, New York

Population: 19,541,453

NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 3,047

 

49, Hawaii

Population: 1,295,178

NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 2,031

 

50, New Jersey

Population: 8,707,739

NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 1,536

 

51, Washington, D.C.

Population: 599,657

NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 155

[kman 56]

I bet there are accurate polls out there but they are not going to be printed in the newspaper. Politicians have their own polls that they use to make decisions that they insist be accurate. These polls are not publicized.

 

Polls in the newspaper are propaganda usually, performed in a manner intended to skew the results.

 

What the actual numbers are, who knows?

 

Who needs an assault weapon? Well, the Jews in Europe, from about 1939 to 1945, for starters. They could have used assault weapons, certainly. In fact they desperately needed them. Why is nobody having conversations along these lines? We've gone through the entire cycle of mass death by gun control, it's called Europe in World War II. A nation without armed citizens is subject to having its government abruptly replaced by power mad people with no scruples, usually government minded people, who "want to get things done". We've seen where that leads. No thank you.

[Vlad G 345]

 

50, New Jersey

Population: 8,707,739

NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 1,536

 

Huh. ... Really? Let's see what the FBI says http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/nics/reports/20130102_1998_2012_state_program_to_date_purpose_ids.pdf

 

Total of handguns and rifles is 640000 or so checks. Our population might be 8mil but stats on gun ownership in polls and such are done on adults.

 

According to the census 23% of nj is under 18, that leaves us with roughly 61 million adults.

 

That works out to about 11 background checks per 100000 people, and that ignores all those older folks that never ran through a nics check. I know many people who own guns from the 70's or inherited them.

[GlassFanta 0]

Huh. ... Really? Let's see what the FBI says http://www.fbi.gov/a...purpose_ids.pdf

 

Total of handguns and rifles is 640000 or so checks. Our population might be 8mil but stats on gun ownership in polls and such are done on adults.

 

According to the census 23% of nj is under 18, that leaves us with roughly 61 million adults.

 

That works out to about 11 background checks per 100000 people, and that ignores all those older folks that never ran through a nics check. I know many people who own guns from the 70's or inherited them.

 

You make some good points, perhaps the numbers I linked are garbage.

 

However, I'd assume the proportions are at least similar, and we are still among the least per capita, if not the lowest.

[jamesbod 0]

LOL people who feel that way never applied for an FID

[Bob2222 317]

NJ pop (2010) 8,807,501 - 1998-2012 NICS background checks --> 644,455

 

NY pop 19,421,055 --> 2,898,290

 

PA pop 12,734,905 --> 8,289,877

 

DE pop 900,877 --> 261,685

 

SC pop 4,645,975 --> 2,363,466

 

I'm guessing that most purchased more than one firearm, and so went through more than one background check. Realizing that New Jersey is, well, New Jersey, those numbers look scary-low for the Garden State. Worse than I thought.

 

I hope I'm right that Christie has his sights set on the White House, and realizes that this will not go over well in the red and purple states. (Otherwise, PA is starting to look about 10 x as good!)

[iRONman 7]

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