Tunaman 549 Posted March 19, 2014 Sorry, but you couldn't drop the guns off at Georges house then go eat. That would be illegal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HBecwithFn7 296 Posted March 19, 2014 If you are still eating at that same Pizza place away from the range, then "FALSE." You can't stop for food. Thats correct. Still can't stop for food. But, you could drop the guns off at george's place, go eat, take george home, retrieve your guns and go home. If the eatery is on the range itself, then "TRUE." Also, I do believe that George must have his own guns to qualify under "subsection (e)." If he doesn't, then "FALSE" George does not have to own guns, as long as the purpose of collecting/discharging him as a passenger was to go shooting at a range, etc. What's not covered is something like- You're going to a range, stop to pick up you're Mom and drop her off at your brother's place, then continue on to the range. Or in Newtonian's scenario, if he's on his way to Cherry Ridge, he can't detour to pick George up and drop him off at the pizza place. The purpose of the pick-up/drop-off has to be one of those covered activities. That's my interpretation, anyway. If that's the case, then I'm covered with the above. But, still, having to debate this kind of "legalese" with a LEO at the time of incident is dangerous. We need something absolutely clear that all can understand. If I collect/discharge anyone, it would be only to go to/from the range or to an eatery before/after the range session. The only other exception I could need would be something like stopping at Sarco for supplies, before going to HG (Easton). Of course, that's in PA, so ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK90 3,570 Posted March 19, 2014 Okay, does it bother anybody else that the Mime is talking? Freaky!!! Sent from an undisclosed location. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Contrvlr 17 Posted March 20, 2014 Reasonable ; I have gone thru the process to legally obtain firearms , nothing I do that isn't an actual crime should be considered unreasonable There is nothing unreasonable about dropping mom off anywhere she needs to be when I am on my way to the range, I am a legal law abiding gun owner There is nothing unreasonable about dropping the kids off at the movies when I'm on my way to the range, I'm a legal law abiding gun owner There is nothing unreasonable about stopping to eat or pick up the mail or grab a gallon of milk when going to or from the range , I am a legal law abiding gun owner See the pattern there ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Silence Dogood 468 Posted March 20, 2014 TODAY (Thursday) is the Assembly vote on A2006 - http://assemblydems.com/Article.asp?ArticleID=7940 FOR RELEASE CONTACT 3/19/2014 Press office (609) 847-3500 Ammunition Magazine Limit, Banning Smoking in Parks & Beaches, Higher Education Cost Disclosure, School Breakfast & Farm-to-School Program Improvements Top Thursday Voting Session Jessica Lunsford Act & Support for Higher Wages for Newark Airport Workers Also on Tap (TRENTON) - Legislation to reduce the capacity of ammunition magazines to 10 rounds, prohibit smoking at public parks and beaches, require institutions of higher education to provide cost details to prospective students and improvements to the school breakfast and Farm-to-School programs top Thursday's Assembly session. The session is scheduled to start at 1 p.m. and will be streamed live at:http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/media/live_audio.asp. Highlights include: · A2006 (Greenwald/Quijano/Eustace/Johnson/Jasey) - Reduces maximum capacity of ammunition magazines to 10 rounds. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tallday 10 Posted March 20, 2014 I got my Chris Christie response March 20, 2014 Dear Mr. Thank you for writing to express your opposition to Assembly Bill No. 2006 (A2006) and Senate Bill No. 993 (S993), both of which would reduce maximum capacity of ammunition magazines to 10 rounds in New Jersey. I appreciate learning your views on this matter. As you may know, A2006 has been referred to the Assembly Law and Public Safety Committee, and S993 has been referred to the Senate Law and Public Safety Committee. You may wish to contact your legislative representatives to make them aware of your concerns. If you are unsure of which legislative district you reside in or who your legislators are, you may obtain this information from the New Jersey State Legislative website: www.njleg.state.nj.us. If either one of these bills passes both Houses of the Legislature, I will be sure to take your views into consideration. Thank you again for writing. Best wishes. Sincerely, Chris Christie Governor Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HBecwithFn7 296 Posted March 20, 2014 I got my Chris Christie response March 20, 2014 Dear Mr. Thank you for writing to express your opposition to Assembly Bill No. 2006 (A2006) and Senate Bill No. 993 (S993), both of which would reduce maximum capacity of ammunition magazines to 10 rounds in New Jersey. I appreciate learning your views on this matter. As you may know, A2006 has been referred to the Assembly Law and Public Safety Committee, and S993 has been referred to the Senate Law and Public Safety Committee. You may wish to contact your legislative representatives to make them aware of your concerns. If you are unsure of which legislative district you reside in or who your legislators are, you may obtain this information from the New Jersey State Legislative website: www.njleg.state.nj.us. If either one of these bills passes both Houses of the Legislature, I will be sure to take your views into consideration. Thank you again for writing. Best wishes. Sincerely, Chris Christie Governor Ah, yes... the classic "non-committal" committal. I expect nothing less from CC, at this point. Again, why would he give his position away at this point and, thus, give his opponents wiggle room time? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chris327 30 Posted March 20, 2014 just got the same one this morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OfcrFek 21 Posted March 20, 2014 My mother-in-law just called me. I dunno if she's behind on the times or NJ is trying some backhanded bullsh*t. She said they're voting on it today, and the Martlon/Medford/Southampton rep's number is 609.654.1498 to let them know you oppose it. I'm calling as soon as I get done typing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OfcrFek 21 Posted March 20, 2014 Guy I got said they're already in Trenton voting on it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ogfarmer 138 Posted March 20, 2014 Yes we all have been writing and calling since last week Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OfcrFek 21 Posted March 20, 2014 Sorry. I'm late to the party. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chris327 30 Posted March 20, 2014 Sorry. I'm late to the party. dont worry focus on senate and Christie now Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old Glock guy 1,127 Posted March 20, 2014 Got the same letter from Christie. I had told him that the legislature was about to present him with a unique opportunity to demonstrate his support of 2A to the rest of the nation by vetoing this bill. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
njJoniGuy 2,131 Posted March 20, 2014 On the live feed from the Assembly chamber: And now for your entertainment pleasure, The Circus of the Inane aka the New Jersey State Assembly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old Glock guy 1,127 Posted March 20, 2014 Anyone wanna bet how this one is going to turn out? What kind of odds do you think you could get if you were betting against it's passing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
njJoniGuy 2,131 Posted March 20, 2014 Given the distribution of D vs R in the Assembly, it's as close to a sure thing as is possible, sadly. I predict 47-33 if they're all there and voting Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Burns 16 Posted March 20, 2014 This guy Greenwald is a clown Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeL 3 Posted March 20, 2014 Asm. Carroll is great though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
njJoniGuy 2,131 Posted March 20, 2014 This guy Greenwald is a clown Is he insane, ignorant or just plain evil?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Newtonian 453 Posted March 20, 2014 If that's the case, then I'm covered with the above. But, still, having to debate this kind of "legalese" with a LEO at the time of incident is dangerous. We need something absolutely clear that all can understand. If I collect/discharge anyone, it would be only to go to/from the range or to an eatery before/after the range session. The only other exception I could need would be something like stopping at Sarco for supplies, before going to HG (Easton). Of course, that's in PA, so ... What if someone gets lost? I have a terrible sense of direction. I drive past turns and exits, miss streets, all the time. Whatever happens with this law, I will leave George home and bring a sandwich. He's a pain in the ass anyway, and last time I had veal parm I got food poisoning. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sota 1,191 Posted March 20, 2014 color me unsurprised. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kwadz 11 Posted March 20, 2014 Am I reading this correctly for A2777 (firearms transportation)? 3/20/2014 Motion To Table (44-29-1) (Greenwald) So much for their "olive branch"! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boejoula 0 Posted March 20, 2014 Is there a website for a live feed. I'm T work living in my phone. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Silence Dogood 468 Posted March 20, 2014 Bill passes - see my commentary in S993 thread for actual comments (real time). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HBecwithFn7 296 Posted March 20, 2014 What if someone gets lost? I have a terrible sense of direction. I drive past turns and exits, miss streets, all the time. And, of course, one must stop for "directions" at the nearest Quick Check/Wawa/etc. etc. etc.. And wouldn't ya know, that sandwich/Twinkee/can of whatever just falls into your cart! Now, of course, we cannot simply walk out with those things. We have to pay for them! :D And once paid for, it would be inhuman to waste them by not consuming them. :D Whatever happens with this law, I will leave George home and bring a sandwich. He's a pain in the ass anyway, and last time I had veal parm I got food poisoning. I kinda have to bring George along. The point of going is, sometimes, to bring George. So that has to be resolved, one way or another. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
njJoniGuy 2,131 Posted March 20, 2014 So now we know that there are at least 42 cases in the Assembly of Delusional Psychosis that require involuntary commitment to a Mental Health facility or there are that many cases of Malicious Treason and Violation of both Federal and State Constitution that require judicial incarceration for an indeterminate period. In the alternative, termination with extreme prejudice would be an acceptable substitute. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites