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By Decastro458
Hello, new owner of a handgun in NJ. Had a question for all of you experts out there! I keep seeing all these different things online so I have an suv so the trunk area is accessible to the back seat area. From my understanding, it needs to be locked in a case and its fine to be in the trunk of my suv? Also my other question.. the ammo.. that needs to be in a separate case? Does it need to have a lock on it or can it just be a bag with a zipper?
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By Kevin125
In a conversation with an NRA Intructor in a classroom, the topic of transporting firearms in NJ came up. I went over my undestanding of what's required and what's not required. Then the instructor said what he believed to be the law for transport. Here's what he said that was different from what I am certain is NJ law.
- In a pickup truck of other type of car without a trunk or isolated storage area similar to a trunk, a long gun must be cased and the case must be locked or tied shut. Like with a luggage lock or a string.
- To transport a long gun, you must have your FPID on you and you can only transport the long gun to and from a range, shop, gunsmith, or some other place where use or possession is lawful.
- If the long gun is in the trunk, it still must be cased.
- He also said something about because of some sort of mistake made when the law was written, you don't need you FPID to transport a handgun, but the rules of storage in the vehicle and where it can be transported to are the same as a long gun.
I didn't argue the points. "New Guy to Handguns" VS "NRA Instructor" seemed like a pointless exercise. But the point of this post is that even among people who are pretty damned experienced, understanding of what the law is seems to be all over the map. And since in this case, I'm talking about an instructor, new people to shooting are getting information that, as far as I know, doesn't jive with the actual law.
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By tigerwoods23141
Hello!
New member, did a lot of searching on this forum and others for an answer to my question. Looking to purchase my first firearm and, since I don't have a car, am trying to figure out how to get the gun to the range. Is it legal to travel to the range with a gun via public transportation (light rail, bus, etc) Does it matter if its a pistol or a rifle? Appreciate any help, at a loss right now.
Thanks!
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Near it. Now don't argue a few inches of penetration here. That can vary to the testing conditions using ballistics gel. But ballistics gel, properly used, gives a consistent standard for evaluation. 45 hardball runs about 30" of penetration. 9mm parabellum fmj runs 24-26". Not much difference. I have seen 45 fmj hit heavy bone like a hip and not exit. But the shot stopped the guy. Made the bad guy fall down. He dropped his gun in the process and offer no further resistance. Remember, as good guys we dont shoot to kill we shoot to stop. If you get the first shot off, miss the bad guy, and he drops his gun and surrenders that is a successful shoot. From the tests I've seen most of the 9mm copper rounds run about the same or a bit more than std fmj. They get their penetration from their high velocity. AFAIC I'd just as soon use fmj than pay the premium price copper rounds cost. Remember, once you get an entry and exit wound on the bad guy anything else is wasted and dangerous. There was a shooting by NYPD in the past few years. IIRC the bad guy was kind of big and was coming after two NYPD officers with a knife. Both shot him and they found bullets in the bad guys jacket. Initially it was reported the jacket stopped the Gold Dot the NYPD officers were using. When the boys (and girls) from forensics got done with their stuff the bullets had penetrated the bad guy and lodged in the jacket. Perfect performance of a SD bullet. There was another shooting outside the Empire State Building. The bad guy wasn't that big. NYPD shot him and there were claims bystanders were hit by the NYPD bullets. The crew from forensics proved the bystanders were hit by fragments of the NYPD bullets that had penetrated the bad guy. So much for all the people who claim cops can't shoot. I bring these incidents up because I always wait "for the rest of the story" before making a judgement. I'm not a fan of +P except in 38 special. I carry factory wadcutters in a j frame. Ive stated my reasons why several times. However, if you havent seen them pm me and I'll tell you. NATO spec pressure falls between SAAMI spec and +P. +P in 9mm really doesn't get you much more in performance over standard 9mm rounds. I've drifted from your question but felt my answer is applicable. The hollowpoint law in NJ only puts bystanders at risk.
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