NJ LAWMAKERS ANNOUNCE PLANS TO DESTROY RIGHT TO CARRY

[CMJeepster 2,778]

Federal Judge Partially Restrains New Jersey’s ‘Unconstitutional’ Concealed Carry Law For Second Time (msn.com)

[Fring Spield 1]

Thankfully, after Bruen, the Presiding Officers intent to "provide perspective on the critical public health, safety and welfare issues that led the Legislature to enact Chapter 131.” means jack. The days of interest balancing are over in 2A issues.

[Displaced Texan 11,752]

I’d love to watch the NJ politicians get smacked down by Judge Bumb. 
 

You can’t put a price on such entertainment. 

[EngineerJet 191]

21 minutes ago, Fring Spield said:

Thankfully, after Bruen, the Presiding Officers intent to "provide perspective on the critical public health, safety and welfare issues that led the Legislature to enact Chapter 131.” means jack. The days of interest balancing are over in 2A issues.

NJ: Our law is rooted in history and tradition. We wouldn't have passed this law without it.

Judge: Show me

NJ: Fuck...

[g17owner 137]

57 minutes ago, EngineerJet said:

NJ: Our law is rooted in history and tradition. We wouldn't have passed this law without it.

Judge: Show me

NJ: Fuck...

That's it in a nutshell

[DirtyDigz 1,812]

And the hits keep on coming!:

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.njd.504488/gov.uscourts.njd.504488.17.0.pdf

 

 

[Displaced Texan 11,752]

Just now, DirtyDigz said:

And the hits keep on coming!:

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.njd.504488/gov.uscourts.njd.504488.17.0.pdf

 

 

May the smackdowns continue!

[CMJeepster 2,778]

10 minutes ago, Displaced Texan said:

May the smackdowns continue!

From your keyboard to God's ears!

[Moutinas 59]

30 minutes ago, DirtyDigz said:

And the hits keep on coming!:

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.njd.504488/gov.uscourts.njd.504488.17.0.pdf

 

 

Wait, what? Does our distinguished governor realize the fellow he praised is the same supposed right wing judge that slapped NJ down? I had to double check the last name, how can Judge Quraishi be the same guy? Wow, talk about egg on the governor's face, ha.

[CMJeepster 2,778]

35 minutes ago, Moutinas said:

Wait, what? Does our distinguished governor realize the fellow he praised is the same supposed right wing judge that slapped NJ down? I had to double check the last name, how can Judge Quraishi be the same guy? Wow, talk about egg on the governor's face, ha.

That's above his pay grade!

[almiz111 26]

Anybody know?

1. What exactly does the State Park thing mean? NJAC7:2-2.17(b). Carry or not?

2. Can I conceal carry at a WMA? (Yes no handgun shooting there.)

 

Thanks.

[DirtyDigz 1,812]

3 hours ago, DirtyDigz said:

And the hits keep on coming!:

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.njd.504488/gov.uscourts.njd.504488.17.0.pdf

 

And now here's the response whining:

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/01/31/judge-new-jersey-law-gun-industry-00080467
 

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A spokesperson for Murphy said the governor was “disappointed” by Tuesday’s order, but is “confident that this decision will be swiftly reversed on appeal.”

In a strongly-worded statement, Platkin called the decision “unprecedented.”

“The district court’s decision enjoining New Jersey’s public nuisance law is unprecedented and unsupportable,” Platkin said. “The New Jersey Legislature acted lawfully when it adopted public nuisance legislation to hold the gun industry accountable, and nothing in federal law allows firearms manufacturers to violate our state statutes with impunity. Another district court already rejected the exact same arguments put forth by the gun industry last year, and we look forward to swiftly appealing this misguided, outlier decision. We will always put public safety ahead of the profits of the gun industry.”

At least they didn't call the judge "radical right wing" this time...

[Displaced Texan 11,752]

Platkin doesn’t know what the word ‘unprecedented’ means. 
 

 

[Krdshrk 3,877]

Updated CC locations post with the handy dandy chart given to us by the ANJRPC

[DirtyDigz 1,812]

"Ask Gov. Murphy" aired last night, and he took a question on the TRO's, said they'll appeal and urged private property owners to put up "no guns allowed" signs:

25:32 - 28:53

https://westchester.news12.com/ask-gov-murphy-jan-31-2023



 

[Moutinas 59]

So our governor is is encouraging people to post gun free zone signs. The first person who is robbed or worse at gunpoint will wonder why his sign was not honored, hmmmmm. Maybe we should pass a law removing qualified immunity for stupid advice offered by state officials so people can drag politicians into court.

[DirtyDigz 1,812]

Murphy's expression the moment he was asked about the TRO:


 

[1LtCAP 4,264]

1 hour ago, DirtyDigz said:

"Ask Gov. Murphy" aired last night, and he took a question on the TRO's, said they'll appeal and urged private property owners to put up "no guns allowed" signs:

25:32 - 28:53

https://westchester.news12.com/ask-gov-murphy-jan-31-2023



 

see? this is one of the places where our so-called republican representatives need to jump in.

 

 it's fine if he wants to encourage property owners to put those signs up. and they're free to put them up. if they DO so choose to disallow firearms on their property(business and/or personal), then there should be a new law(i just puked a little typing that) that those property owners MUST provide FREE and secure storage for our firearms while we are there   storage that only we as the firearm owner will have access to upon leaving their business.

[1LtCAP 4,264]

1 hour ago, DirtyDigz said:

"Ask Gov. Murphy" aired last night, and he took a question on the TRO's, said they'll appeal and urged private property owners to put up "no guns allowed" signs:

25:32 - 28:53

https://westchester.news12.com/ask-gov-murphy-jan-31-2023



 

and on this note, why didn't anyone call in and ask the governor why exactly he thought that vetted law abiding citizens were a/the problem?

[CMJeepster 2,778]

1 hour ago, DirtyDigz said:

Murphy's expression the moment he was asked about the TRO:


 

I can't decide if I:

1.  Print this on rolls of toilet paper;

2.  Make a door mat of it;

3.  Print it large scale and take it to the range.

[45Doll 5,877]

Or remind him that his previous assessment was that Constitutional issues were 'above his pay grade'. So STFU.

[Displaced Texan 11,752]

Is it legal for Murphy to ‘encourage’ businesses to post NO GUNS signs?

[Fawkesguy 57]

Just now, Displaced Texan said:

Is it legal for Murphy to ‘encourage’ businesses to post NO GUNS signs?

Does it actually matter if it isn't?  Is someone gonna file a lawsuit?  

[Displaced Texan 11,752]

1 minute ago, Fawkesguy said:

Does it actually matter if it isn't?  Is someone gonna file a lawsuit?  

I thought I remembered Judge Bumb saying something to Cai about that in the hearing…

[YankeeSC 1,204]

1 hour ago, Moutinas said:

Maybe we should pass a law removing qualified immunity for stupid advice offered by state officials so people can drag politicians into court.

There should be harsh criminal and civil liability on property owners for any firearm related death or injury that occurs in a "gun free" zone.  If a property owner is going to enforce that, the owner then has a duty to protect.

[Fawkesguy 57]

Just now, Displaced Texan said:

I thought I remembered Judge Bumb saying something to Cai about that in the hearing…

Yeah, it was something like the state should say "may post a sign" as opposed to "should post a sign".  No surprise the state's way of thinking is to just tell people what to do, as opposed to making a suggestion.  This *is* NJ, ya know.  

3 minutes ago, YankeeSC said:

There should be harsh criminal and civil liability on property owners for any firearm related death or injury that occurs in a "gun free" zone.  If a property owner is going to enforce that, the owner then has a duty to protect.

We "should" also have constitutional carry, but oh well.

[Displaced Texan 11,752]

2 minutes ago, Fawkesguy said:

Yeah, it was something like the state should say "may post a sign" as opposed to "should post a sign".  No surprise the state's way of thinking is to just tell people what to do, as opposed to making a suggestion.  This *is* NJ, ya know.  

I think you’re right..I knew I remembered something about it 

[YankeeSC 1,204]

2 minutes ago, Fawkesguy said:

No surprise the state's way of thinking is to just tell people what to do, as opposed to making a suggestion letting them decide for themselves.

FIFY

[Moutinas 59]

President Obama had a similar Constitutional disconnect. Not sure if it's ignorance or worse. They may know then subtly lie to the low information public. The President famously said the Constitution gives citizens rights. We all know that is not true. Our God given rights predate the USA, the founding documents and all the Amendments protect these rights. It's a fine point but makes a huge difference. When the powers gives you something, they can take it away which would be any tyrant's preference.

[Fawkesguy 57]

Just now, Moutinas said:

President Obama had a similar Constitutional disconnect. Not sure if it's ignorance or worse. They may know then subtly lie to the low information public. The President famously said the Constitution gives citizens rights. We all know that is not true. Our God given rights predate the USA, the founding documents and all the Amendments protect these rights. It's a fine point but makes a huge difference. When the powers gives you something, they can take it away which would be any tyrant's preference.

Yep.  That's why I have that link in my signature.  It's a great article that explains rights quite clearly.

https://www.backwoodshome.com/we-dont-need-no-steenking-2nd-amendment/