vladtepes 1,060 Posted December 4, 2010 Not that it matters since I am on my way back and don't even have FL CCW yet (still waiting)... but does anyone know for sure if Disney really disallows CCW.. * I saw NO signage stating that CCW was not permitted... * I never once had to go through a metal detector.. * Nothing on the ticket stated I could not carry.. I feel that I could have easily carried in Disney with NO hassle.. again just some observations based on my recent trip.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tommy3rd 132 Posted December 4, 2010 You could carry in Disney. No metal detectors. They just use the stick to look in your bag. The biggest concern i think is...do you really want to take a chance of missing and hitting a child by accident? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpecialK 193 Posted December 4, 2010 yeah it's better to let the person shooting up the place and threatening you and your family to carry on unchallenged. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vladtepes 1,060 Posted December 4, 2010 You could carry in Disney. No metal detectors. They just use the stick to look in your bag. The biggest concern i think is...do you really want to take a chance of missing and hitting a child by accident? no of course not.. ideally I will never have to use a firearm that I choose to carry.. the situation is more the comfort of having it on the tiny chance of needing it.. would I ever want to use it and miss and hit a kid.. NO WAY.. but would it be worth having if some guy goes nuts and has his back against a wall, giving you a clean shot.. YES.. so yeah the thought of carrying for me is based on odds.. first the odds are unlikely I would ever need a gun that I am carrying.. next are the odds of having a shot I feel comfortable taking.. because even if I am sure.. there is still some potential for error.. so adding all that up.. the chances of me needing a gun and being in the situation where I am comfortable taking the shot are next to zero.. but being prepared for that %.0000000001 instance is the way I live my life.. that might be a little excessive.. but it's just how my mind works.. lol example: I had a screw driver in my carry on.. my girlfriend is telling me that I am nuts and security is going to stop me and all this.. well I checked TSA and it was legal to have.. so I brought it.. one of the kids ended up locking one of the parents out of the bedroom.. we were able to use the screw driver to use to get the door open.. point being.. for me I would rather be over prepared than under prepared.. lol 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vjf915 456 Posted December 4, 2010 I would rather be prepared for a situation that will most likely, and hopefully, not happen....than to not be prepared. I mainly focus this thought process on serious issues that have serious consequences. Mainly "survival" if you will....just like Vlad, it may sound paranoid, but on the OFF chance that something happens, I would rather be prepared. Unfortunately this is a pretty uncommon thought process. I could tell by the look on my classmates faces when I said I would carry if I could. Everybody was absolutely shocked, and asking why. Yes, because living 5 minutes outside of Trenton, with my girlfriend living IN Trenton isn't enough of a reason Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tommy3rd 132 Posted December 4, 2010 You gotta realize though, you have a concealed WEAPON permit for FL. It doesn't have to be a gun. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maksim 1,504 Posted December 5, 2010 Good to know. I was wondering about the same thing when I was in Disney in Feb for a conference. Will be going back in may, with ccw in hand. While down there, planning on driving around the Orlando area and down the coast for some real estate due dilligence. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bbk 188 Posted December 5, 2010 I wonder if these recent events will change any policies at Disney itself, though I doubt it: http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/12/03/florida.disney.violence 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vladtepes 1,060 Posted December 5, 2010 Good to know. I was wondering about the same thing when I was in Disney in Feb for a conference. Will be going back in may, with ccw in hand. While down there, planning on driving around the Orlando area and down the coast for some real estate due dilligence. there appears to be quite the criminal element in the surrounding area... for your own safety.. I would not hewsitate to carry even if you don't plan to actually carry on the property.. good luck with the trip.. I wonder if these recent events will change any policies at Disney itself, though I doubt it: http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/12/03/florida.disney.violence crazy the article is dated the 3rd.. I was literally there during that and didn't hear a peep of it.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maksim 1,504 Posted December 5, 2010 It is Celebration, not really Disney.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bbk 188 Posted December 5, 2010 It is Celebration, not really Disney.... Of course, though, everyone knows that Celebration really is a Disney "social experiment" . Seriously though, that place is freaky. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OldSoldier71 1 Posted December 5, 2010 You could carry in Disney. No metal detectors. They just use the stick to look in your bag. The biggest concern i think is...do you really want to take a chance of missing and hitting a child by accident? You REALLY were just kidding with this...right? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tommy3rd 132 Posted December 5, 2010 Not that it matters since I am on my way back and don't even have FL CCW yet (still waiting)... but does anyone know for sure if Disney really disallows CCW.. * I saw NO signage stating that CCW was not permitted... * I never once had to go through a metal detector.. * Nothing on the ticket stated I could not carry.. I feel that I could have easily carried in Disney with NO hassle.. again just some observations based on my recent trip.. To answer your question: http://disneyworld.disney.go.com/faq/theme-parks/#subCategory8 No weapons of any kind allowed. Just be prepared to be escorted out of the park. I don't think they can arrest you if you have a permit, they'll just ask you to leave. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vjf915 456 Posted December 5, 2010 Right. And once they ask you to leave, you gotta do it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dewhitewolf 8 Posted December 5, 2010 The only thing I've ever heard about Disney and weapons was a situation involving an employee who kept a gun in his car. This individual had a FL license, but Disney has a policy against weapons on the premises for employees, including a ban on employees having weapons in their cars if parked on Disney lots. I believe that he was fired for refusing to let his car be searched, and he sued. As it turns out, FL has a law protecting employees who lawfully lock guns in their cars while working. I don't recall any mention of a ban for visitors. As I understand it, unless Disney posts signs or otherwise communicates a no weapons policy, then Disney is not off limits for those who carry. However, since it is still private property, they can ask you to leave if they find you carrying (and if you don't, it becomes trespassing). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vjf915 456 Posted December 5, 2010 As it turns out, FL has a law protecting employees who lawfully lock guns in their cars while working. Way to freakin go Florida!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vladtepes 1,060 Posted December 5, 2010 To answer your question: http://disneyworld.disney.go.com/faq/theme-parks/#subCategory8 No weapons of any kind allowed. Just be prepared to be escorted out of the park. I don't think they can arrest you if you have a permit, they'll just ask you to leave. I think that if I carried based on the information that was readily available at the entrance.. they would be hard pressed to break my balls about it.. as stated they would probably ask you to leave.. but there is no signage anywhere directing you to not carry a weapon.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpecialK 193 Posted December 5, 2010 I believe when you buy the ticket all the legal is on the back of it isn't it? "by purchasing this ticket you agree to the rules and yada yada..." sort of thing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vladtepes 1,060 Posted December 5, 2010 I believe when you buy the ticket all the legal is on the back of it isn't it? "by purchasing this ticket you agree to the rules and yada yada..." sort of thing. nope.. checked it out.. that is actually the first place I looked.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpecialK 193 Posted December 5, 2010 well I don't know FL law but in CO if the private property didn't have signs posted you could carry on. If they found you with your firearm they could only ask you to leave. I can just imagine after someone heroically saves a bunch of people from someone who wants to shoot up the place an employee coming up and saying "uh yeah thanks for that, but guns are a no no here, so we are going to have to ask you to leave." 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vladtepes 1,060 Posted December 5, 2010 well I don't know FL law but in CO if the private property didn't have signs posted you could carry on. If they found you with your firearm they could only ask you to leave. I can just imagine after someone heroically saves a bunch of people from someone who wants to shoot up the place an employee coming up and saying "uh yeah thanks for that, but guns are a no no here, so we are going to have to ask you to leave." LOL EXACTLY... here is what I think... * No obvious signage telling you no.. * No metal detectors stopping you at security checkpoint... * Concealed carry... so the only time it is going to be an issue is if you NEED to use it.. and at that point I think that the situation will far outweigh the repercussions.. well in FL at least.. lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BRN169 6 Posted December 6, 2010 LOL EXACTLY... here is what I think... * No obvious signage telling you no.. * No metal detectors stopping you at security checkpoint... * Concealed carry... so the only time it is going to be an issue is if you NEED to use it.. and at that point I think that the situation will far outweigh the repercussions.. well in FL at least.. lol I was just down with my wife, kids, mon and step-dad. My step day has some sort of retired officer badge in his wallet. While going through his fanny pack on the way in to the Magic Kingdom one of the security guys noticed it and specifically asked him if he was carrying and told him that he could not in the parks. Since my step-dad has probably spent more time in Disney than any two of their employees combined he already knew that, his gun was in the safe back at the room... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cubflyer50 1 Posted December 7, 2010 I had heard from someone who had been told by local LEO near Disney that there has been a lot of crime in the area around Disney, mainly in the lots.....they don't want it publicized so you don't hear much about it....mainly robberies Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cubflyer50 1 Posted December 7, 2010 I believe they said that the hotels in the area have also been targeted Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vjf915 456 Posted December 7, 2010 I had heard from someone who had been told by local LEO near Disney that there has been a lot of crime in the area around Disney, mainly in the lots.....they don't want it publicized so you don't hear much about it....mainly robberies I'm not surprised the least bit, that would be a solid target area for criminals. People don't know the area, they will most likely be carrying large sums of cash....it is a DISTINCT advantage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BadBul 0 Posted December 8, 2010 Disney has a strict no firearms policy. Not even an off duty police officer can carry on there property. This is a Disney rule and I think it should be a Federal/State rule. Disney is a place for kids and should fall under a zero weapons policy just like schools do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vladtepes 1,060 Posted December 8, 2010 Disney has a strict no firearms policy. Not even an off duty police officer can carry on there property. This is a Disney rule and I think it should be a Federal/State rule. Disney is a place for kids and should fall under a zero weapons policy just like schools do. Disney does not advertise that.. so the consumer would have to be informed to comply.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK90 3,573 Posted December 8, 2010 Disney has a strict no firearms policy. Not even an off duty police officer can carry on there property. This is a Disney rule and I think it should be a Federal/State rule. Disney is a place for kids and should fall under a zero weapons policy just like schools do. This post is a joke right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
karcirate 1 Posted December 8, 2010 This post is a joke right? That's what I was wondering. I was just reading the terms for a cruise line, and first they have the paragraph about no firearms or weapons of any kind, and then 2 paragraphs later, a disclaimer that they are in no way responsible for your safety, rather you are responsible. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites