THIS IS SICK

[dave545 15]

I am all for abortion if the female wants it but gad dam

 

 

PHILADELPHIA — A doctor whose abortion clinic was described as a filthy, foul-smelling "house of horrors" that was overlooked by regulators for years was charged Wednesday with murder, accused of delivering seven babies alive and then using scissors to kill them.

Dr. Kermit Gosnell was also charged with murder in the death of a woman who suffered an overdose of painkillers while awaiting an abortion.

Regulators ignored complaints of barbaric conditions

 

In a nearly 300-page grand jury report filled with ghastly, stomach-turning detail, prosecutors said Pennsylvania regulators ignored complaints of barbaric conditions at Gosnell's clinic, which catered to poor, immigrant and minority women in the city's impoverished West Philadelphia section.

 

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Prosecutors called the case a "complete regulatory collapse."

 

"Pennsylvania is not a Third World country," the district attorney's office declared in the report. "There were several oversight agencies that stumbled upon and should have shut down Kermit Gosnell long ago."

 

Gosnell, 69, was arrested and charged with eight counts of murder in all. Nine of Gosnell's employees - including his wife, a cosmetologist who authorities say performed abortions - also were charged.

 

Prosecutors said Gosnell made millions of dollars over three decades performing thousands of dangerous abortions, many of them illegal late-term procedures. His clinic had no trained nurses or medical staff other than Gosnell, a family physician not certified in obstetrics or gynecology, prosecutors said.

 

At least two women died from the procedures, while scores more suffered perforated bowels, cervixes and uteruses, authorities said.

 

Under Pennsylvania law, abortions are illegal after 24 weeks of pregnancy, or just under six months, and most doctors won't perform them after 20 weeks because of the risks, prosecutors said.

 

In a typical late-term abortion, the fetus is dismembered in the uterus and then removed in pieces. That is more common than the procedure opponents call "partial-birth abortion," in which the fetus is partially extracted before being destroyed. Prosecutors said Gosnell instead delivered many of the babies alive.

He "induced labor, forced the live birth of viable babies in the sixth, seventh, eighth month of pregnancy and then killed those babies by cutting into the back of the neck with scissors and severing their spinal cord," District Attorney Seth Williams said.

 

Gosnell referred to it as "snipping," prosecutors said.

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Prosecutors estimated Gosnell ended hundreds of pregnancies by cutting the spinal cords, but they said they couldn't prosecute more cases because he destroyed files.

 

"These killings became so routine that no one could put an exact number on them," the grand jury report said. "They were considered 'standard procedure.'"

 

Defense attorney William J. Brennan, who represented Gosnell during the investigation, said: "Obviously, these allegations are very, very serious."

 

The grand jury report came out a day after new Republican Gov. Tom Corbett took office. Spokesman Kevin Harley pledged that Corbett's administration, through his new health secretary, would do more to oversee such clinics.

 

"What needs to be done is regulators, whether on the local or state or federal level, need to properly regulate, inspect and do their jobs," Harley said. "The safety of our citizens should be first and foremost."

 

Authorities raided Gosnell's clinic early last year in search of drug violations and stumbled upon "a house of horrors," Williams said. Bags and bottles holding aborted fetuses "were scattered throughout the building," the district attorney said. "There were jars, lining shelves, with severed feet that he kept for no medical purpose."

 

Prosecutors said the place reeked of cat urine because of the animals that were allowed to roam freely, furniture and blankets were stained with blood, instruments were not properly sterilized, and disposable medical supplies were used over and over.

People knew to come to Dr. Gosnell for late-term abortions

 

Gosnell didn't advertise, but word got around. Women came from across the city, state and region for illegal late-term abortions, authorities said. They paid $325 for first-trimester abortions and $1,600 to $3,000 for abortions up to 30 weeks. The clinic took in $10,000 to $15,000 a day, authorities said.

 

"People knew near and far that if you needed a late-term abortion you could go see Dr. Gosnell," Williams said.

 

White women from the suburbs were ushered into a separate, slightly cleaner area because Gosnell believed they were more likely to file complaints, Williams said.

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Few if any of the sedated patients knew their babies had been delivered alive and then killed, prosecutors said. Many were first-time mothers who were told they were 24 weeks pregnant, even if they were much further along, authorities said.

 

Prosecutors said Gosnell falsified the ultrasound examinations that determine how far along a pregnancy is, teaching his staff to hold the probe in such a way that the fetus would look smaller.

 

Gosnell sometimes joked about the babies, saying one was so large he could "walk me to the bus stop," according to the report.

 

State regulators ignored complaints about Gosnell and the 46 lawsuits filed against him, and made just five annual inspections, most satisfactory, since the clinic opened in 1979, authorities said. The inspections stopped completely in 1993 because of what prosecutors said was the pro-abortion rights attitude that set in after Democratic Gov. Robert Casey, an abortion foe, left office.

 

Williams accused state Health Department officials of "utter disregard" for the safety of women undergoing abortion, and said the testimony of agency officials "enraged" the grand jury. But he said he could find no criminal offenses with which they could be charged, in part because too much time has elapsed.

 

"These officials were far more protective of themselves when they testified before the grand jury. Even (Health Department) lawyers, including the chief counsel, brought private attorneys with them - presumably at government expense," the report said.

 

The state's reluctance to investigate, under several administrations, may stem partly from the sensitivity of the abortion debate, Williams said. Nonetheless, he called Gosnell's conduct a clear case of murder.

 

"A doctor who with scissors cuts into the necks, severing the spinal cords of living, breathing babies who would survive with proper medical attention commits murder under the law," he said. "Regardless of one's feelings about abortion, whatever one's beliefs, that is the law."

 

 

Four clinic employees were also charged with murder, and five more, including Gosnell's wife, Pearl, with conspiracy, drug and other crimes. All were in custody. Gosnell's wife performed extremely late-term abortions on Sundays, the report said.

 

One of the murder charges against Gosnell involves a woman seeking an abortion, Karnamaya Mongar, who authorities said died in 2009 because she was given too much of the painkiller Demerol and other drugs.

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Gosnell wasn't at the clinic at the time. His staff administered the drugs repeatedly as they waited for him to arrive at night, as was his custom, the grand jury found.

 

Mongar and her husband, Ash, had fled their native Bhutan and spent nearly 20 years in camps in Nepal. They had three children. A man who answered the phone Wednesday at a listing for Ash Mongar in Virginia did not speak English, while their daughter did not immediately return a message.

 

The malpractice suits filed against Gosnell include one over the death of a 22-year-old Philadelphia woman, a mother of two, who died of a bloodstream infection and a perforated uterus in 2000. Gosnell sometimes sewed up such injuries without telling the women about the complications, prosecutors said.

 

Gosnell earned his medical degree from Thomas Jefferson University in Philadelphia and is board certified in family practice. He started, but did not finish, a residency in obstetrics-gynecology, authorities said.

 

Assistant District Attorney Joanne Pescatore said: "He does not know how to do an abortion. Once he got them there, he saw dollar signs and did abortions that other people wouldn't do."

 

http://www.app.com/article/20110119/NEWS06/110119038/-House-of-Horrors-abortion-clinic-charged-with-murder

[StephanieSeven 70]

oh god. i cannot begin to tell you how this makes my heart ache and how much is disgusts me. it's exactly this type of thing that creates an opportunity for women to lose their right to choose and that scares the hell out of me. i want to say thank you for sharing the article, but i'm not sure i am thankful.

 

thanks...i think. lol

[dave545 15]

yaaaa..... :icon_neutral:

[Cylinder Head 22]

Wow. I can't even read all of this. Just terrible.

[tuktuk 16]

Stone him to death. God I hope he burns in hell

[Malsua 1,422]

Catered to minorities and immigrants.

 

To cap things off, he kept souvenirs of the murdered babies. What a guy.

[BigHayden 77]

But you won't hear any calls for Doctor control laws, or abortion control laws from McCarthy or Lautenberg. This monster killed more people than the Tucson shooter and the anti-rights crowd won't have a thing to say about it.

[vladtepes 1,060]

:Insert violent politically incorrect resolution in dealing with said "Dr.":

[YankeeFan 49]

But you won't hear any calls for Doctor control laws, or abortion control laws from McCarthy or Lautenberg. This monster killed more people than the Tucson shooter and the anti-rights crowd won't have a thing to say about it.

 

Once again the double-standard hypocrisy of the left rears its ugly head. This "doctor" was probably just as disturbed (or maybe even more so) than the Tuscon shooter, but no one is making a stink about taking away his doctor tools... I hope he fries for this...

[NicePants 58]

Well, at least now we know: Outside of womb = Person, Inside of womb = not-person.

[PeteF 1,044]

oh god. i cannot begin to tell you how this makes my heart ache and how much is disgusts me. it's exactly this type of thing that creates an opportunity for women to lose their right to choose and that scares the hell out of me. i want to say thank you for sharing the article, but i'm not sure i am thankful.

 

thanks...i think. lol

 

/OnSoapBox

The right to choose is not when the baby is killed but when you create the baby. You don't want a baby, don't have unprotected sex.

Once the baby is concieved, it is no longer a right to choose, its a way out of being responsible for your actions.

 

If the baby is killed 1 minute inside the womb, it's abortion, if you wait that minute then its murder? That makes absolutely no sense.

/OffSoapBox

[tony357 386]

who the hell waits that long, WTF..

[maideneddie 35]

As the father of a 5 month old baby, I was in absolute disgust as I read this. How can anyone hold a infant in their hands and end their life with a pair of scissors?!?!?! I hope with every fiber of my being that this barbarian has his life taken from him...what a shitbag.

[matty 810]

/OnSoapBox

The right to choose is not when the baby is killed but when you create the baby. You don't want a baby, don't have unprotected sex.

Once the baby is concieved, it is no longer a right to choose, its a way out of being responsible for your actions.

 

If the baby is killed 1 minute inside the womb, it's abortion, if you wait that minute then its murder? That makes absolutely no sense.

/OffSoapBox

 

I see Pete got modded down for this, but I agree with him, so I modded him back up. The only case as I see for abortion is in cases of rape or incest. Abortion as a form of birth control is appalling to me, personally. My opinion, FWIW. No, I will not get into a long discussion or flamewar.

[NJdiverTony 27]

Was this guy even a real doctor??? Although I don't condone or agree with abortion, I do believe in a woman's right to choose... but in this case, both the women that chose this inhumane procedure and this so called "doctor" should be considered to be murderer's! This whole story just made me sick to my stomach.

[YankeeFan 49]

I see Pete got modded down for this, but I agree with him, so I modded him back up. The only case as I see for abortion is in cases of rape or incest. Abortion as a form of birth control is appalling to me, personally. My opinion, FWIW. No, I will not get into a long discussion or flamewar.

 

I modded him up too... I agree w/Pete and matty

[tbtrout 141]

This is absolutely repulsive. I have been against partial birth abortions since I first learned of them and this is not any better. I also think any woman that does this is just as guilty of murder as the Dr. Abortion debate aside, this is just plain murder.

[coldsolderjoint 84]

I'm with you guys on most of these points.. but this is 2011.. and they have things like free condoms and even baring that.. the morning after pill! Not the RU486 one which is the abortion, the one you can get from almost any drug store, over the counter for about $30 (Plan B ).. it's basically a large dose of birth control pills, and it stops the egg and sperm from coming together during the first 72 hours..

 

Simple, done, cheap.. no need to worry about anything.

 

And.. if your too poor to afford free condoms, they even give out the damn morning after pill for free at planned parent hoods! (And every urban city has at least one!)

 

Oh, and if you have no balls to man up and go talk to someone about the pill, they sell it at a number of online drug stores too!

 

Such a senseless waste of human life.

[StephanieSeven 70]

well i was pretty confident i would get slammed a little for being pro-choice. not something i'll apologize for. i do find it not only surprising but a little appalling that some of you assumed that means i'm pro-abortion in lieu of responsible forms of birth control. that's pretty sad guys. really.

[Krdshrk 3,878]

What's wrong with being pro-choice? I'm pro-choice. Abortion is not a means of birth control.

[vladtepes 1,060]

What's wrong with being pro-choice? I'm pro-choice. Abortion is not a means of birth control.

 

 

pro-choice or not is normally not something even worth discussing IMO..

 

most people who are pro-choice are looking at the situation in a cold straight logical way (not necessarily bad..).. and most people are are not pro-choice are normally looking at the situation through the eyes of someone who is allowing a strong faith or moral upbringing to determine their stance.. so you just won't sway one person to the other.. it is kind of like religion VS science..

 

science guy: how can you believe in god?

religion guy: I have faith...

science guy: but there is no proof...

religion guy: I know in my heart that god is real..

 

and that could literally go on for days.. because you are judging something based on two entirely different scales science VS faith.. you won't meet in the middle.. you won't sway one another..

 

just my 2 cents at least..

[StephanieSeven 70]

The only case as I see for abortion is in cases of rape or incest. Abortion as a form of birth control is appalling to me, personally.

 

I find it's easy for people to put such a black and white on when abortion is appropriate and when it isn't until their 13 year old daughter gets knocked up or they find out they are carrying a severely deformed child. Then people's opinions seem to change a bit. I'm with you though. Abortion as an "every day" birth control option is repugnant.

[Krdshrk 3,878]

I find it's easy for people to put such a black and white on when abortion is appropriate and when it isn't until their 13 year old daughter gets knocked up or they find out they are carrying a severely deformed child. Then people's opinions seem to change a bit. I'm with you though. Abortion as an "every day" birth control option is repugnant.

 

To me, there are plenty of reasons why - accidents with birth control failure, rape, incest, teenage pregnancies, other immoral activities, etc. But yes, every day birth control is not where we are supposed to be.

[Malsua 1,422]

Speaking of rape...you see those Rape-Axe condom's?

[john q publik 10]

well i was pretty confident i would get slammed a little for being pro-choice. not something i'll apologize for. i do find it not only surprising but a little appalling that some of you assumed that means i'm pro-abortion in lieu of responsible forms of birth control. that's pretty sad guys. really.

 

 

LIFE: The FIRST inalienable right.....

[StephanieSeven 70]

LIFE: The FIRST inalienable right.....

Apparently not

[Krdshrk 3,878]

LIFE: The FIRST inalienable right.....

 

I'm sorry but I see life as a privilege. Why would it be a right? Because my mommy and daddy had some fun in the bedroom (or wherever I was conceived)?

 

I live life like it is a privilege. You only get one

[tuktuk 16]

Life is the greatest gift of God. It must be cherished like no other. That said there is still a separation of the church and the state in this country so no matter how anybody feels about this, the individual must have a choice when it comes to something as private and personal as abortion ...,

[Pew Pew Plates 358]

If its in you, its yours, and you can do as you please with it. I dont understand how men in washington can make personal decisions like that for other people. Butt out, its not your business! I have a friend who is pro-life and posts pics of bloody babies and all that crap and its so annoying. I almost wish she got knocked up by accident and see how fast she does a 180.

 

 

 

 

Pro-choice all the way.

[Wolfy 51]

The MSM is reporting Pa fired 7 state or city employees because of this case. Where was the city and state agency's who were supposed to inspect this shithole?

He was inspected 5 times in 31 years the last time prior to 1993. Am I missing something?