I saw nothing 3 Posted March 23, 2011 Geez, all this talk about "2nd amendment applying to the states" and "Possible CCW in NJ", I was really thrown for a loop when buying ammo in NJ today. Went to get 9MM ammo at "Dick's" that was on sale and of course gave my FID. Then the person told me that the FID is needed for Shot gun and rifle ammo... WTF!? I nearly went through the roof when she told me it was "as per the state's request". Then to top it off she hands me the ammo in a clear plastic box with an alarm on the top if you try to open it the alarm goes off... WTF AGAIN?! Am I a freaking criminal? Dick's wrote down what I bought (yes, all ammo) and my phone #, FID info, etc...This state has gone off the deep end! When did this BS start? I really have to get out of here before it is too late.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pew Pew Plates 358 Posted March 23, 2011 I havent bought ammo in state for several years now. Its expensive here, anyways! (not to mention you are paying NJ sales tax and supporting the regime) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maksim 1,504 Posted March 23, 2011 Um.... this is how it was. It is Dicks store policy to record all ammo with Fid. By law, it is only for pistol caliber ammunition. The lockbox is so that people don't steal it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,878 Posted March 23, 2011 Yep that's how Dick's does it. The one in Woodbridge didn't require FID for Shotgun ammo though. The guy walked it up to the front with me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LorenzoS 100 Posted March 23, 2011 dansammo.com, ammotogo.com, kylesgunshop.com, streichers.com are all excellent sources. Even with shipping it's less than buying local with tax. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pew Pew Plates 358 Posted March 23, 2011 www.aimsurplus.com 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK90 3,573 Posted March 23, 2011 Buy BULK out of state and have it delivered. Buy BY THE BOX at local dealers. Don't buy at Dicks and Walmart. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
I saw nothing 3 Posted March 23, 2011 I usually buy out of state but I was going to the range tonight and I figured I'd take a quick peek at "Dick's"... screw that, I am done with this NJ BS. It's a shame that Dick's suffers at the hands of this BS administration and liberal state. It's a wonder that there are gun dealers in this state... I honestly don't know how they make it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JackDaWack 2,895 Posted March 23, 2011 Buy BULK out of state and have it delivered. Buy BY THE BOX at local dealers. Don't buy at Dicks and Walmart. +10000! i get my ammo at almost 25% off online at regular prices, not sales. I will never buy ammo in NJ ever again unless im trying out a new round and only buy a box. But other then that i buy bulk, so much cheaper, and delivered to my door. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Regulator72 80 Posted March 23, 2011 Um.... this is how it was. It is Dicks store policy to record all ammo with Fid. By law, it is only for pistol caliber ammunition. The lockbox is so that people don't steal it. I was told they also use the lock box so if people change their minds, they don't just put it on any old shelf in store.. we've all done that at the grocery store I'm sure Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theRU 33 Posted March 23, 2011 I was told they also use the lock box so if people change their minds, they don't just put it on any old shelf in store.. we've all done that at the grocery store I'm sure I really dont have a problem with their security precautions. Thank all the stupid lawyers out there that stuff their pockets from rediculous liability lawsuits for that one. And from a theft standpoint, do you really want to make it easy for someone to steal ammunition? You are a law abiding citizen and were able to get what you wanted (ammo wise at least) whats the issue? ( my comment is for the OP despite quoting don's post) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SSlav 14 Posted March 23, 2011 I used to buy things at Dicks, but it just got too inconvenient. I do not keep my FID on me. It is always in my range bag. I used to stop at Dicks when passing by. Now I have to plan the trip and make sure my FID is with me. I am simply not that well organized. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
njJoniGuy 2,133 Posted March 23, 2011 I used to buy things at Dicks, but it just got too inconvenient. I do not keep my FID on me. It is always in my range bag. I used to stop at Dicks when passing by. Now I have to plan the trip and make sure my FID is with me. I am simply not that well organized. You could make a copy of one of your Pistol Purchase Permits and use it to buy ammo. (I keep one in my wallet) It contains your SBI number, just like your FID card does, and it is an allowable document under the handgun ammo purchase law here in the Glorious People Republik. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cylinder Head 22 Posted March 23, 2011 WWW.DANSAMMO.COM When shipped it will arrive in 1 day!! 1 freakin day!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
I saw nothing 3 Posted March 23, 2011 I really dont have a problem with their security precautions. Thank all the stupid lawyers out there that stuff their pockets from rediculous liability lawsuits for that one. And from a theft standpoint, do you really want to make it easy for someone to steal ammunition? You are a law abiding citizen and were able to get what you wanted (ammo wise at least) whats the issue? ( my comment is for the OP despite quoting don's post) Hey, you may be OK with store's logging your purchases and the government knowing what you bought, but I am not. I am fed up with all the laws that are "designed" to "stop criminals" but guess who is inconvenienced in the end? Us! Guess who pays for all this BS logging... Us! Guess who has to carry their FID card, wait 20 minutes for someone to get your ammo, take 5 minutes writing down what you bought then walk up front with a freaking sealed plastic container that the clerk had to ask a manager to come over and unlock it. Seriously, we the honest citizen are treated like the criminal and every time there is another little "addition" to getting anything, we the people pay for it. Go into PA or any other state and most ammo is on a shelf... you get it and walk up front with it and you are on your merry way. But this damn nanny state says you're too stupid to get it yourself and must be inconvenienced. Now I have to have my FID on me if I ever want to buy ANY ammo in this state. Then risk losing my card and just another thing that I have to keep track of. See, now you got me all wound up... thanks a lot! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,878 Posted March 23, 2011 It's not any ammo. It's only handgun ammo. They were wrong in telling you about the shotgun ammo. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
I saw nothing 3 Posted March 23, 2011 It's not any ammo. It's only handgun ammo. They were wrong in telling you about the shotgun ammo. She said "Rifle, slugs, pistol and .410" require FID and logged. Shotgun (12,16 gauge) need FID for purchase but not logged. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,878 Posted March 23, 2011 She's misinformed then. .410 i can see requiring FID since it can be used in a handgun. Slugs - not sure why. Shotgun (12/20/etc) should not even require FID. They didn't even check at the Dick's in Woodbridge. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rifleman1 32 Posted March 23, 2011 dansammo.com, ammotogo.com, kylesgunshop.com, streichers.com are all excellent sources. Even with shipping it's less than buying local with tax. I use ammoengine.com to find the lowest prices and then buy from them. Typically it winds up being Cheaper Than Dirt or Sportsman's Guide. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK90 3,573 Posted March 23, 2011 The disposition of all hollow point and all handgun ammo, even if it can be used in a long gun must be recorded. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theRU 33 Posted March 23, 2011 Hey, you may be OK with store's logging your purchases and the government knowing what you bought, but I am not. I am fed up with all the laws that are "designed" to "stop criminals" but guess who is inconvenienced in the end? Us! Guess who pays for all this BS logging... Us! Guess who has to carry their FID card, wait 20 minutes for someone to get your ammo, take 5 minutes writing down what you bought then walk up front with a freaking sealed plastic container that the clerk had to ask a manager to come over and unlock it. Seriously, we the honest citizen are treated like the criminal and every time there is another little "addition" to getting anything, we the people pay for it. Go into PA or any other state and most ammo is on a shelf... you get it and walk up front with it and you are on your merry way. But this damn nanny state says you're too stupid to get it yourself and must be inconvenienced. Now I have to have my FID on me if I ever want to buy ANY ammo in this state. Then risk losing my card and just another thing that I have to keep track of. See, now you got me all wound up... thanks a lot! Yea its an inconvenience but we're dealing with dangerous stuff here. We have to be reasonable about some things. In the grand scheme of things this is not the end of the world, you wanted ammo and you got whatever you wanted right then and there... Getting FID's done in 30 days, getting rid of the mag limits, the anti CCW laws all that is far more important.. and an actual infringement on our rights. Would you think its an inconvenience to log your purchase of massive amounts of fertilizer?? I agree that its a PIA but this is the world we live in... where even fertilizer needs to be tracked. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
halbautomatisch 60 Posted March 24, 2011 I've bought bird shot at Dick's and they just handed it to me, no ID check, plastic box or anything, just bring it to the register and pay for it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NJdiverTony 27 Posted March 24, 2011 I've bought shotgun and rifle ammo at Dicks and have never been asked for an FID. The guys at the gun counter usually carry the ammo up to the registers so I can pay and walk out. Even if they had asked for an FID, or put the ammo in a lockbox, I dont think it would bother me... I'm still getting what I want... So for me it's not that big of a deal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
I saw nothing 3 Posted March 24, 2011 Yea its an inconvenience but we're dealing with dangerous stuff here. We have to be reasonable about some things. In the grand scheme of things this is not the end of the world, you wanted ammo and you got whatever you wanted right then and there... Getting FID's done in 30 days, getting rid of the mag limits, the anti CCW laws all that is far more important.. and an actual infringement on our rights. Would you think its an inconvenience to log your purchase of massive amounts of fertilizer?? I agree that its a PIA but this is the world we live in... where even fertilizer needs to be tracked. How about Baseball bats? What about kitchen knives? Chain saws? Lawn mower blades? Pick ax? How about a REGULAR AX?! You can walk into ANY store any pick this off the shelf and do far more damage than (physically) throwing bullets at people. Do want to have these in locked cases, be finger printed, wait 20 minutes for service, logged into a database then wait as they walk you up front with an escort? See, my point is "where does it end"? Did your college professor tell you that government knows best? Do you like being inconvenienced because of the 1% or less of the population? I agree that CCW is the main concern, but I don't see things getting any better here in the state... actually we are exactly where we were 3 years ago. And no, fertilizer should not be tracked... these are some of the "consequences" if we want to be free. BTW, if the government ran on the Constitutional principals it is supposed to, I argue we would not have 90% of the BS concerns. Anyway, if you feel the government does a great, efficient job at curbing "crime" and these unconstitutional laws are "just", then you are delusional beyond debating. But I believe that what they are doing infringes on the freedoms that this country was built upon...why aren't you asking "what the NJ government is doing is wrong? Why are they doing this?" Do you really believe it is for "our safety"? Really? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mcbethr 42 Posted March 24, 2011 It may be the store. 99% of the time when go to Dicks, I buy a case of 12 gauge #8 gun club. I don't think that I've ever been asked to show my FID for that. But I usually buy in Princeton and they know me there. This may not be a matter of store policy, just one of some employees not knowing the law, or wanting to cover themselves. Maybe different stores have different policies at the request of police chiefs? I actually wrote Dicks a thank you letter a few years ago. I thanked them for continuing to sell firearms and ammunition when all of the other big chain stores have pulled out. Yes, you can order online, but unless you are ordering in bulk, it's just not worth it. Dicks prices helps keep the ammunition prices of the gun shops down. So in the end, they are worth it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theRU 33 Posted March 24, 2011 How about Baseball bats? What about kitchen knives? Chain saws? Lawn mower blades? Pick ax? How about a REGULAR AX?! You can walk into ANY store any pick this off the shelf and do far more damage than (physically) throwing bullets at people. Do want to have these in locked cases, be finger printed, wait 20 minutes for service, logged into a database then wait as they walk you up front with an escort? See, my point is "where does it end"? Did your college professor tell you that government knows best? Do you like being inconvenienced because of the 1% or less of the population? I agree that CCW is the main concern, but I don't see things getting any better here in the state... actually we are exactly where we were 3 years ago. And no, fertilizer should not be tracked... these are some of the "consequences" if we want to be free. BTW, if the government ran on the Constitutional principals it is supposed to, I argue we would not have 90% of the BS concerns. Anyway, if you feel the government does a great, efficient job at curbing "crime" and these unconstitutional laws are "just", then you are delusional beyond debating. But I believe that what they are doing infringes on the freedoms that this country was built upon...why aren't you asking "what the NJ government is doing is wrong? Why are they doing this?" Do you really believe it is for "our safety"? Really? Wow talk about the standard over-reaction. Sure there are nut jobs that would want everything regulated...just as IMHO there are nut jobs that think everything should be free and clear of any obstacle. The right approach is somewhere in the middle. Were you finger printed for buying ammo? NO! so there goes part one of your over reaction. Waiting for service is the vendors responsiblity but go ahead and blame the government for that one. You think you are actually "logged in a database" for buying ammo? These guys just keep paper records to cover their a**. And finally they put the ammo in a locked box so that they dont have to walk you to the register. Furthermore i have no idea what my college professor has to do with anything, but judging by the extent of your overreaction i'm surprised you are even on an internet forum.... shouldn't you be lining your house with aluminum foil just incase "they" come to get you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theRU 33 Posted March 24, 2011 oh and to address your questions... do i like being inconvenienced ? NO but is it worth taking my shoes off and haveing items checked incase i'm a delusional terrorist?? Yea i'll deal with it. Do i feel better knowing that most large fertilizer purchases are regulated to prevent another oklahoma city? Yea i think its worth it. Do i think OGAM is dumb? yep, so are most of the other gun laws. BUT, i do think there needs to be some sort of gun regulation because the only people who should own guns are law abiding citizens. Somehow the illegal weapons needs to be addressed, unfortunately they current laws dont address that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest schutzen-jager Posted March 24, 2011 been well over twenty years since i have purchased any in the prnj - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hd2000fxdl 422 Posted March 24, 2011 WWW.DANSAMMO.COM When shipped it will arrive in 1 day!! 1 freakin day!! Not to shabby on the crate of 7.62x54R Harry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,878 Posted March 24, 2011 Not to shabby on the crate of 7.62x54R Harry Not really. I like buying 7.62x54R from here: http://www.the-armory.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/product1568.html Buy 2 and it's $69.99 each. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
