NJ2AS v. NJSP update and court documents

[djg0770 481]

who is Carol Burnett ?

 

Right Bry@n - next you're gonna tell us that MASH was what you did to potatoes. You ain't THAT young

[Bob B 103]

Wonderful, he probably has to finish telling the elephant story before he starts walking, this could take a while..

 

Harry

 

Thank you, Harry. After Bryan's comment, I was beginning to worry. I forgot about the elephant story. It's probably been thirty years since I thought about that one.

[djg0770 481]

Wonderful, he probably has to finish telling the elephant story before he starts walking, this could take a while..

 

Harry

 

For the young-uns...

 

[Bob B 103]

Okay, we are going back to court on Nov 4th.

[Malsua 1,422]

Okay, we are going back to court on Nov 4th.

 

Does this mean the judge reviewed it or will simply have reviewed it by then?

[Recon Racoon 49]

Does this mean the judge reviewed it or will simply have reviewed it by then?

In my not so professional opinion, the judge is going to review the guidelines, and try and see if if any of them fall under the restrictions the state police said they fall under. If he can't find any by the fourth then he'll give the verdict, or what ever its called during a Law Suit. But I'm going to guess that NJ will appeal the hell out of this until they get a judge that is in their favor.

[Bob B 103]

Does this mean the judge reviewed it or will simply have reviewed it by then?

 

Unknown.

[hd2000fxdl 422]

That's it Dan, doesn't matter how many time you watch that it's still funny, Tim was a comedy genius.

 

 

 

Robert, thanks for the update about the judge ruling on the 4th.

 

 

[Maksim 1,504]

Here is the thing, does this guide even exist? I asked my local pd and they never saw it.

[djg0770 481]

Here is the thing, does this guide even exist? I asked my local pd and they never saw it.

 

RIF. Yes, it exists, the NJSP acknowledge it exists, they would not go through these machinations if it didn't exist - they would just tell the judge it doesn't exist, end of lawsuit, and we know (about 15 pages back) that they already have an unofficial copy of the guide.

[Jon 264]

I've never seen a guide...

[Maksim 1,504]

RIF. Yes, it exists, the NJSP acknowledge it exists, they would not go through these machinations if it didn't exist - they would just tell the judge it doesn't exist, end of lawsuit, and we know (about 15 pages back) that they already have an unofficial copy of the guide.

 

 

I know there is a training manual... but not an actual do this, do that.... from 3 different sources.

[Bob B 103]

There is no spoon, but there is definitely a guide.

[NicePants 58]

Probably looks something like this:

 

[winki 0]

Great post mr. Nice pants.

[njpilot 671]

Thanks Dan, I forgot how funny Tim Conway was on that show. Had the cast laughing many times during his skits.

[Bob B 103]

Well, we were supposed to have our third court date today, but at the last minute, the judge called for a conference call with both attorneys. During the call he, again, told Mr. Rizzo, that his certifications were insufficient and told him to do another one. This is now the fourth time that the judge is giving the NJSP attorney the opportunity to provide some evidence that any part of the guide would cause harm if released. The first two certifications were insufficient and the third request was ignored. The court date was rescheduled for Nov 18th.

[hd2000fxdl 422]

Thanks Dan, I forgot how funny Tim Conway was on that show. Had the cast laughing many times during his skits.

 

Tim the fisherman and Horse Jockey are also classics.

[hd2000fxdl 422]

Well thats really not bad news at all Rob, have a date and it's just a stall more than likely being there is noting in there if released that would cause harm.

[LorenzoS 100]

It's good news that the NJSP's first three certifications were insufficient. But I think it's bad news the judge is so willing to keep giving them more chances. I somehow doubt he would be that forgiving of our side.

[hd2000fxdl 422]

It's good news that the NJSP's first three certifications were insufficient. But I think it's bad news the judge is so willing to keep giving them more chances. I somehow doubt he would be that forgiving of our side.

 

You got that right, no way that would be that tolerant if was our side, but the judge has to get tired of this and I has to be soon.

[bry@n 195]

I wonder why the judge keeps giving opportunities to them? Very concerning. he can just make a judgement after this is going on and on.

[Z71 4]

seems to me, if judge gave no indication of; get it right this time or else; he wiil continue to ask for re-writes until he gets one so conviluted,vague and confusing enough that he finds in favor of the state..at what point if any, is the judge compelled to act?

[LorenzoS 100]

The judge wants to side with the NJSP so badly he might as well just write the damned thing himself, then grade it an A+

[muzzelloader69 9]

how come we cant make the judge tell them this is it , bring the right stuff to the next court date or else. why do we have to keep waiting?

[ianargent 7]

Because annoying the judge is a Bad Idea.

[Bob B 103]

how come we cant make the judge tell them this is it , bring the right stuff to the next court date or else. why do we have to keep waiting?

 

We objected to the fourth request for a certification. Judge Hurd overruled our objection.

[tony357 386]

We objected to the fourth request for a certification. Judge Hurd overruled our objection.

 

Not good, could you have asked for a last request be given to the state and then a ruling at the next hearing..

[n4p226r 105]

what a joke. they cant figure out a reason why you shouldnt have it. and the POS judge just keeps giving them more leeway. i wonder if he'll rule in their favor either way

[ianargent 7]

I been given to understand that this type of generous extension period will help our side if an appeal is necessary, and possibly hurt the state if they have to appeal.