DTtuner 21 Posted August 28, 2012 Yes, no, maybe a convoluted idiot law which doesn't clearly state either way? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xchange1980 0 Posted August 28, 2012 As far I know they are Illegal Other Prohibited Items: gravity knife, switchblade knife, dagger, dirk, stiletto, billy, blackjack, metal knuckle, sandclub, slingshot, cestus or similar leather band studded with metal filings or razor blades embedded in wood, ballistic knife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TK421 2 Posted August 28, 2012 I still love the fact that you can legally own firearms in NJ but there is no legal way to possess a wrist rocket! Only in NJ. When I was a kid I used to spend my summers at my grandparents' homes in Florida. My cousin Steven lived down there and had his own .22 and shotgun at 12/13 years old. He introduced me to a wrist rocket one summer and I shot that damned thing every day for two months. I was so pissed off when my father took it away from me upon my return to Jersey. I never got over that. ;-) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedBowTies88 41 Posted August 28, 2012 Hmm, So if you made them of concrete they would be legal... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK90 3,573 Posted August 28, 2012 Any person who knowingly has in his possession any gravity knife, switchblade knife, dagger, dirk, stiletto, billy, blackjack, metal knuckle, sandclub, slingshot, cestus or similar leather band studded with metal filings or razor blades imbedded in wood, ballistic knife, without any explainable lawful purpose, is guilty of a crime of the fourth degree. Can you explain it? Good to go. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mcbethr 42 Posted August 28, 2012 Hey, Mr. Wilson? Is this thing Jersey Legal? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
this_is_nascar 162 Posted August 28, 2012 I'll probably take some heat on this, but so be it. Since you asked specifically about brass knuckles, that's what I'll comment on. I have no issues with them be illegal. As far as I'm concerned and I think history will show this, BK's have only ever served one purpose and that was to "OFFENSIVELY" cause massive bodily harm to another purpose. You never hear of them being used to "DEFEND" someone from an attack or beating. They are consciously used to mame and injure, that's it. Yea, I know, someone will find a story or something along those lines in the next 15-minutes that will show someone claiming to use them as self-defense, however I'd love to locate some real stats. I'd bet they show their usage as I outlined above. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueLineFish 615 Posted August 28, 2012 Illegal. Not that there is any lawful purpose for them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silverado427 10,775 Posted August 28, 2012 Paper weights. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DTtuner 21 Posted August 28, 2012 As far as I'm concerned and I think history will show this, BK's have only ever served one purpose and that was to "OFFENSIVELY" cause massive bodily harm to another purpose. You lost me here. Any weapon of any kind can be used either offensively or defensively. The Law is the Law and there's no two ways around it. So if it's illegal because Lautendouche has sand in his vagina, well we can't do much about it. But the logic you're using scares me. How is a pair of brass knuckles any different from say a pipe, lead-lined gloves, or those key chain Kubotans? EDIT: I hate NJ, and I'm angry. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK90 3,573 Posted August 28, 2012 I collect for my enjoyment various antique metal knuckles from the 18th century. I am breaking the law? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DTtuner 21 Posted August 28, 2012 How about a WWI trench knife? Are they illegal? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CMJeepster 2,780 Posted August 28, 2012 Paper weights. And a belt buckle. (Cruise the flea markets in another state and pick one up... Belt buckle, that is...) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
djg0770 481 Posted August 29, 2012 I still love the fact that you can legally own firearms in NJ but there is no legal way to possess a wrist rocket! Only in NJ. When I was a kid I used to spend my summers at my grandparents' homes in Florida. My cousin Steven lived down there and had his own .22 and shotgun at 12/13 years old. He introduced me to a wrist rocket one summer and I shot that damned thing every day for two months. I was so pissed off when my father took it away from me upon my return to Jersey. I never got over that. ;-) Wanna get your knickers in a twist? The original text of the law said "slungshot" which is a device that can be used by hoodlums to beat the crap out of someone (you can google it). Some idjit secretary said "oops - that's a typo" and fixed it to read slingshot and that my friends is how we end up with wrist rockets being illegal here in NJ. I am not kidding... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TK421 2 Posted August 29, 2012 Wanna get your knickers in a twist? The original text of the law said "slungshot" which is a device that can be used by hoodlums to beat the crap out of someone (you can google it). Some idjit secretary said "oops - that's a typo" and fixed it to read slingshot and that my friends is how we end up with wrist rockets being illegal here in NJ. I am not kidding... I remember reading that in Nappen's book. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fishpaw 17 Posted August 29, 2012 Wanna get your knickers in a twist? The original text of the law said "slungshot" which is a device that can be used by hoodlums to beat the crap out of someone (you can google it). Some idjit secretary said "oops - that's a typo" and fixed it to read slingshot and that my friends is how we end up with wrist rockets being illegal here in NJ. I am not kidding... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slungshot Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SgtToadette 59 Posted August 29, 2012 Explainable lawful purpose? Of course officer I was hunting with them! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
specopsscout 26 Posted August 29, 2012 Can you explain it? Good to go. Cell phone protective case... http://www.knucklecase.com/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
this_is_nascar 162 Posted August 29, 2012 I collect for my enjoyment various antique metal knuckles from the 18th century. I am breaking the law? If they are illegal to possess, then yes, you are breaking the law. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
this_is_nascar 162 Posted August 29, 2012 You lost me here. Any weapon of any kind can be used either offensively or defensively. The Law is the Law and there's no two ways around it. So if it's illegal because Lautendouche has sand in his vagina, well we can't do much about it. But the logic you're using scares me. How is a pair of brass knuckles any different from say a pipe, lead-lined gloves, or those key chain Kubotans? EDIT: I hate NJ, and I'm angry. You opinion and right to feel that way, for sure. Like I said, I support them being illegal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK90 3,573 Posted August 29, 2012 If they are illegal to possess, then yes, you are breaking the law. BUT, they are NOT illegal to possess. Is not collecting a legal purpose? If they were made to be illegal to possess outright, the statute would not have the below section in red. It would read as follows: Any person who knowingly has in his possession any gravity knife, switchblade knife, dagger, dirk, stiletto, billy, blackjack, metal knuckle, sandclub, slingshot, cestus or similar leather band studded with metal filings or razor blades imbedded in wood, ballistic knife, is guilty of a crime of the fourth degree. And not as written in the law: Any person who knowingly has in his possession any gravity knife, switchblade knife, dagger, dirk, stiletto, billy, blackjack, metal knuckle, sandclub, slingshot, cestus or similar leather band studded with metal filings or razor blades imbedded in wood, ballistic knife, without any explainable lawful purpose, is guilty of a crime of the fourth degree. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
this_is_nascar 162 Posted August 29, 2012 BUT, they are NOT illegal to possess. Is not collecting a legal purpose? If they were made to be illegal to possess outright, the statute would not have the below section in red. It would read as follows: And not as written in the law: Then I stand corrected about their legality. I was assuming, based on what's areadly been stated here, that they are illegal. If they're OK to own, then go at it. I'd still wager that 90% of the "legal" owners are not owning them to collect or show. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jrfly3006 42 Posted August 29, 2012 Bottom line..dont walk around with them or bring them to anywhere security might find them..i.e airport,sporting events, concerts etc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KpdPipes 388 Posted August 30, 2012 You lost me here. Any weapon of any kind can be used either offensively or defensively. The Law is the Law and there's no two ways around it. So if it's illegal because Lautendouche has sand in his vagina, well we can't do much about it. But the logic you're using scares me. How is a pair of brass knuckles any different from say a pipe, lead-lined gloves, or those key chain Kubotans? EDIT: I hate NJ, and I'm angry. They have been Illegal to possess (Without an articulable lawful purpose) going all the way back to Title 2A (The previous Criminal Code), and Probably even the prior codes going back to the 1930's....same with Concealed handguns ..Lautenberg has nothing to do with it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sticky Grips 4 Posted August 30, 2012 noone said anything about lexan knuckles! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RubberBullets 65 Posted August 30, 2012 Hopefully it's to increase grip... That poor little screen cracks when you look at it the wrong way... Id rather grab a nokia whip someone with. Cell phone protective case... http://www.knucklecase.com/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites