CDNN Sports has 10 and 15rd pinned mags $8.99

[NYMetsFan86 9]

15 rounders with a big ugly pin but hey.....$8.99 is nice

 

http://www.cdnninvestments.com/msar22315pib.html

[mge_1 2]

Darn pin... Can this be painted black atleast?  Ordered 3... Thx for sharing.

[remixer 1,645]

I'm assuming all they did was put a Rivet to stop the follower from dropping below 15 rounds..

 

In a perfect world that sounds great, NJ IS NOT PERFECT. I saying this is in NO WAY LEGAL.

[mge_1 2]

Great... Seriously?

[NYMetsFan86 9]

I'm assuming all they did was put a Rivet to stop the follower from dropping below 15 rounds..

 

In a perfect world that sounds great, NJ IS NOT PERFECT. I saying this is in NO WAY LEGAL.

 

Definately see where your coming from Steve. I guess they saw the demand and had to get there hand in ASAP cant say i blame them....If anything i would think the visible rivet is more satisfying to an LEO that wants to check your mag.

 

Would this mag not have to be destroyed in order to remove the pin?

 

....don't shoot the messanger lol

[brocglock23 4]

"Large capacity ammunition magazine" means a box, drum, tube or other container, which is capable of holding more than 15 rounds of ammunition to be fed continuously and directly
therefrom into a semi-automatic firearm. A large capacity ammunition magazine that has been permanently altered so that it is not capable of holding more than 15 rounds of ammunition will cease to be defined as a "large capacity ammunition magazine." An ammunition magazine, which has been temporarily blocked or modified from holding more than 15 rounds, as by a piece of wood or a pin, is still considered to be a "large capacity ammunition magazine."

 

This is what NJ defines as a "Large cap mag" I think you might be walking a fine line if stopped and saving the couple bucks might not be worth the thousands in legal fees and losing your firearms. I wouldn't chance it.

[mge_1 2]

Cancelling order. Thx

[Blacksmythe 71]

epoxy the bottom

[RUTGERS95 890]

epoxy the bottom

does not fit the legal definition and do not rely on this

 

 

or you guys could buy my metal 10 rounders in the for sale section:)

[brocglock23 4]

epoxy the bottom

 

does not fit the legal definition and do not rely on this

 

 

or you guys could buy my metal 10 rounders in the for sale section:)

I would agree with Rutgers95 on this. If you epoxy the bottom you could still drill out the rivet you would exceed the 15 round limit. IMO you would illegal. I can vouch for the these mags. Double the price but it will keep you legal and they are good quality. http://www.colddeadhands.com/accessories.html

 

EDIT: Or you can buy Rutgers and make him happy.

[RUTGERS95 890]

I would agree with Rutgers95 on this. If you epoxy the bottom you could still drill out the rivet you would exceed the 15 round limit. IMO you would illegal. I can vouch for the these mags. Double the price but it will keep you legal and they are good quality. http://www.colddeadhands.com/accessories.html

 

EDIT: Or you can buy Rutgers and make him happy.

me too, I have a bunch of them and they are great mags!

 

and agree, you can make me happy too.....lol

[DirtyDigz 1,812]

A pop rivet?  Are they kidding?

[Polak 3]

Looks 100% NJ illegal

[tuktuk 16]

somebody with better writing skills should drop them a line or two ...

if they were going for NJ market, they def need a better understanding of the laws here ...

[mge_1 2]

somebody with better writing skills should drop them a line or two ...

if they were going for NJ market, they def need a better understanding of the laws here ...

So how do you all know its just a rivet?  You would think they would look into the NJ law before mass producing these right?  Educate me I'm the idiot who ordered it lol...

[mge_1 2]

I had to call them directly.  Spoke to a guy name "Jaky" or "Jakie" and he confirmed they are 100% legal in NJ.  Hmmm...  Now i'm confused haha!

[njJoniGuy 2,133]

Is Jakie going to do the time for you at The Hotel Rahway when the crap comes down?

 

I think not.

 

Stick with PK90's 15 rounders. They truly are good to go.

[mge_1 2]

Ya true... so what is the legal way to pinn these magazine? Educate me pls.

[njJoniGuy 2,133]

Permanently

 

So that they CANNOT be returned to >15 capacity.

 

(Including, but not exclusively:

Shortening the body & Sealing the removable bottom)

[remixer 1,645]

IF his blocking method is just a Pop rivet then hes not aware of NJ laws.  to epoxy the bottom does nothing.

 

if they are internally blocked then why the external rivet. They need to be blocked and sealed from being opened. Opening them would damage the magazine and render it inoperable.

 

 

I would stay away from these. but hey to save 10 bucks it might be worth it for some people.

[remixer 1,645]

That being said these might be legal in some states like CA but not NJ

 

WITHOUT question these are not legal

[mge_1 2]

Thanks. Ordered cancelled.

[Old School 611]

IF his blocking method is just a Pop rivet then hes not aware of NJ laws.  to epoxy the bottom does nothing.

 

if they are internally blocked then why the external rivet. They need to be blocked and sealed from being opened. Opening them would damage the magazine and render it inoperable.

 

 

I would stay away from these. but hey to save 10 bucks it might be worth it for some people.

 

Do you have a special insight to NJ law?   The law is so vague that you cannot voice your opinion as an authority.  At least qualify your statement as saying "in your opinion"  Virtually any "NJ legal" magazine can be modified to be illegal.

[Smoke Eater 0]

Ive seen worst example of legal mags lol. I woildnt waste my time on these

[Old School 611]

Ive seen worst example of legal mags lol. I woildnt waste my time on these

 

I agree they look like garbage.

 

I use these for $16 and they are flawless, They are lanced to prevent the follower from moving all the way down...But somebody will probably say they are illegal...LOL

 

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/334509/ar-stoner-magazine-ar-15-223-remington-15-round-with-anti-tilt-follower-stainless-steel-black

[JC_68Westy 1,024]

Do you have a special insight to NJ law?   The law is so vague that you cannot voice your opinion as an authority.  At least qualify your statement as saying "in your opinion"  Virtually any "NJ legal" magazine can be modified to be illegal.

+1000000.  Any "NJ Legal" 15rd mag can be modified to hold one or two more by taking the mag apart and shaving off the follower and then reassembling.  This guessing game can be taken to extremes.  What if you cut a mag that has been welded, trim the follower and duct tape, epoxy or weld it together to hold 16 or more?  This can be done with all 15rd mags.  What is the definitive answer?  My guess is that there is no definitive answer.  

[Old School 611]

+1000000.  Any "NJ Legal" 15rd mag can be modified to hold one or two more by taking the mag apart and shaving off the follower and then reassembling.  This guessing game can be taken to extremes.  What if you cut a mag that has been welded, trim the follower and duct tape, epoxy or weld it together to hold 16 or more?  This can be done with all 15rd mags.  What is the definitive answer?  My guess is that there is no definitive answer.  

 

Thank you! 

[PK90 3,573]

Letter from NJSP

 

NJ Admin Code (page 4)

[JC_68Westy 1,024]

Letter from NJSP

 

NJ Admin Code (page 4)

The Admin Code still doesn't address permanent. Is a pin a roll pin? A pop rivet is most certainly not a pin. Has the law established that a pop rivet is a pin? I don't believe that to be the case.

[rightisright 3]

Wasn't there a guy here who sold riveted mags?  Mountain Armory or something like that??  He was out west, I believe.