DeerSlayer 241 Posted July 20, 2017 Not a Bayonet lug, not an edged weapon, or a switchblade/stiletto. It's just a spike. Discuss...https://www.bayonext.com/ Or for Facebook users. https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=128172827756474&id=121374908436266 Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,877 Posted July 20, 2017 My Mosin has a spike bayonet - it's still a bayonet..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeerSlayer 241 Posted July 20, 2017 My Mosin has a spike bayonet - it's still a bayonet.....Yeah but there's no rule against bayonets themselves. Just a bayonet lug. Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Screwball 483 Posted July 20, 2017 Yeah but there's no rule against bayonets themselves. Just a bayonet lug. Sent from my SM-G900V using TapatalkNo rule about lugs or any other evil feature on rifles that are not semi-auto with a detachable magazine, either...I would say yea, legal, as it isn't attached to a lug. However, I wouldn't be the test subject for NJ to decide that rails can equate to a bayonet lug.I have one of those pistol rail bayonets that a friend got me as a joke. Most useless thing I've ever seen. I also have the CZ Tactical Block, which has an insert for a bayonet (bought it because the Block isn't a common thing, and puts a little more weight up front... it just happened to also have a blade).In regards to the CZ, the Block really only fits the SP-01 (mount design, as well as face in front of slide/barrel), so cannot easily be used on a rifle. The other, if you have rails, it can be attached. Now, I'm not saying that rails equate to a lug, but have one yahoo decide he is going to run his AR that way... I'm sure that someone that doesn't like guns, with a generic understanding of the AWB, will say it is an "assault weapon."If there is a need for that spike on your rifle, then run it. If you get jammed up, you'll have to deal with it... using your argument (and likely a lawyer). If you have no need for it, why would you put it on your rifle? While I understand taking a stance against the government, that wouldn't be my first choice to defy them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeerSlayer 241 Posted July 20, 2017 No rule about lugs or any other evil feature on rifles that are not semi-auto with a detachable magazine, either...I would say yea, legal, as it isn't attached to a lug. However, I wouldn't be the test subject for NJ to decide that rails can equate to a bayonet lug.I have one of those pistol rail bayonets that a friend got me as a joke. Most useless thing I've ever seen. I also have the CZ Tactical Block, which has an insert for a bayonet (bought it because the Block isn't a common thing, and puts a little more weight up front... it just happened to also have a blade).In regards to the CZ, the Block really only fits the SP-01 (mount design, as well as face in front of slide/barrel), so cannot easily be used on a rifle. The other, if you have rails, it can be attached. Now, I'm not saying that rails equate to a lug, but have one yahoo decide he is going to run his AR that way... I'm sure that someone that doesn't like guns, with a generic understanding of the AWB, will say it is an "assault weapon."If there is a need for that spike on your rifle, then run it. If you get jammed up, you'll have to deal with it... using your argument (and likely a lawyer). If you have no need for it, why would you put it on your rifle? While I understand taking a stance against the government, that wouldn't be my first choice to defy them.I personally have no reason for a bayonet. If I need to used an edged weapon I'm capable, without it being attached to my rifle. I was just posting it, to see what everyone's opinion was. Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Screwball 483 Posted July 20, 2017 I personally have no reason for a bayonet. If I need to used an edged weapon I'm capable, without it being attached to my rifle. I was just posting it, to see what everyone's opinion was. Sent from my SM-G900V using TapatalkUnderstood... and didn't mean anything by it.Just put my view. [emoji111]️ 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Danno 127 Posted July 20, 2017 Use the standard Jersey test: Is it cool? YES Is it fun? YES Can we have it in Jersey? NO NO NO Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handyman 5,682 Posted July 20, 2017 Looks nice. But for the price I could buy another backup pistol. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted July 21, 2017 Totally useless, but have at it. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyB 4,325 Posted July 21, 2017 34 minutes ago, Ray Ray said: Totally useless, but have at it. I feel the same way Ray. If I am to weigh my rifle down with something, I at least want it to have a real life use. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mossburger 406 Posted July 21, 2017 As someone who is into history, bayonet charges are about as brutal as it gets, and I'd have no intention of wanting a bayonet for a home or personal defense situation. Only firearm I personally see a benefit of having a bayonet on would be a Mosin, as it seems to help with barrel harmonics on a decent number of them. That said, while you should in theory be able to mount a teddy bear on the end of an AR-15 for all anyone cares, I wouldn't chance it in NJ with that device. Just as easily as you can argue it isn't a bayonet lug, someone could also argue that a rail, bracket, screw etc. is simply another form of lug. EDIT: Oh my god, it's almost $400... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Danno 127 Posted July 21, 2017 How about the fact that it is an automatic knife? " In stand alone configuration the instrument could be deployed as an automatic knife for hunting or in many other capacities" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeletePLS 178 Posted July 21, 2017 1 minute ago, Danno said: How about the fact that it is an automatic knife? " In stand alone configuration the instrument could be deployed as an automatic knife for hunting or in many other capacities" you could argue that its not a knife, also are you trying to say automatic knives are illegal in nj? cause their not. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Danno 127 Posted July 21, 2017 1 minute ago, cabalrayz said: you could argue that its not a knife, also are you trying to say automatic knives are illegal in nj? cause their not. The manufacturer calls it a knife in their ad. As far a legality goes: 2C:39-1 h. "Gravity knife" means any knife which has ablade which is released from the handle or sheath thereofby the force of gravity or the application of centrifugalforce... p. "Switchblade knife" means any knife or similardevice which has blade which opens automatically by handpressure applied to a button, spring or other device inthe handle of the knife... u. "Ballistic knife" means anyweapon or other device capable of lethal use and which canpropel a knife blade. You can be the test case if you want. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeletePLS 178 Posted July 21, 2017 22 minutes ago, Danno said: The manufacturer calls it a knife in their ad. As far a legality goes: 2C:39-1 h. "Gravity knife" means any knife which has ablade which is released from the handle or sheath thereofby the force of gravity or the application of centrifugalforce... p. "Switchblade knife" means any knife or similardevice which has blade which opens automatically by handpressure applied to a button, spring or other device inthe handle of the knife... u. "Ballistic knife" means anyweapon or other device capable of lethal use and which canpropel a knife blade. You can be the test case if you want. 2C:39-3. Prohibited Weapons and Devices. e. Certain weapons. Any person who knowingly has in his possession any gravity knife, switchblade knife, dagger, dirk, stiletto, billy, blackjack, metal knuckle, sandclub, slingshot, cestus or similar leather band studded with metal filings or razor blades imbedded in wood, ballistic knife, without any explainable lawful purpose, is guilty of a crime of the fourth degree. so is there no explainable lawful purpose for any of these items? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GRIZ 3,369 Posted July 21, 2017 1. If it comes to their attention the NJ AG might define a rail as a bayonet stud. 2. An AR/M16/M4 is a POS in bayonet fighting. I base this on my experience as winning the company competition with pugil sticks in basic training in 1967. I also broke two M14 stocks in basic one one a thrust and another with a butt stroke. I've always taken the position "why am I using a bayonet if I still have ammunition". I've always made sure I had ammunition. JMO Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,877 Posted July 21, 2017 4 hours ago, Ray Ray said: Totally useless, but have at it. Where's your pistol bayonet? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted July 21, 2017 5 hours ago, Krdshrk said: Where's your pistol bayonet? On my pistol, duh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites