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gleninjersey 2,141 Posted June 25, 2022 And no need to have ANY answer for the "Justifiable Need" section. It has been officially dropped and all Police Chiefs should have been notified. https://www.anjrpc.org/page/NJDropsJustifiableNeed?fbclid=IwAR2ckKtGbnTW9u6Hujw51bgfl0R5ehu0MzgmlW6CnuvrY0JbFh-9ysWB78w&fs=e&s=cl Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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JackDaWack 2,895 Posted June 25, 2022 2 full days? Gun for hire will have something waaay shorter, not sure the length yet, but probably a few hours or less. There is a running ccw thread in the general forum. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CMJeepster 2,778 Posted June 27, 2022 "Until we see statutes, we don't know what we'll be fighting." - Dan Schmutter, Esq. The Gun For Hire Radio Broadcast: Episode 579 - Best Gun Range NYC and NJ Area | Gun Range Near Me Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oneshot 45 Posted June 30, 2022 Pretty sure gun for hire and rtsp will offer much shorter and less expensive alternatives. Visit their sites Gun for hire is in woodlawn park and rtsp is in union and randolph Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
124gr9mm 859 Posted June 30, 2022 IMO, Anthony @gunforhire has setup a great webpage that has links to all the forms you need to use and he's setup time slots for people to sign up for their the Qualification - https://gunforhire.com/nj-ccw-permit/ The website lists the qualification as $150 (+ $50 for each additional gun). Looks like a one stop shop for CCW needs. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NJSigfan 218 Posted June 30, 2022 Can someone explain what the timing limits are for the quals? I know it’s 50 rounds broken down at various distances, but what is the timing requirement in total or per distance? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DAHL 59 Posted June 30, 2022 The qualification requirements for obtaining a carry permit in New Jersey are the same as the FBI in-service qualification HQC-1 using the FBI Q type target. It is broken down into 8 segments 25 yd, 15, 10, 7, 5 and 1. In all segments you are required to draw from concealed, fire and hit the target. Positions are standing, kneeling, and ready. There is one segment where you must shoot with your "off hand" another where you must do a quick magazine reload. Time of each segment varies from 2 to 30 seconds as fast shooting. You will fire 60 rds and be required to hit the target 48 times or more to pass the qualification test. Most ranges will NOT allow you to draw and fire a loaded gun from a holster so this must be looked at. You can only qualify with the pistol that you intend to carry. Not easy right now as the requirements for NJ carry are identical for FBI agents and law enforcement.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
124gr9mm 859 Posted June 30, 2022 11 minutes ago, DAHL said: The qualification requirements for obtaining a carry permit in New Jersey are the same as the FBI in-service qualification HQC-1 using the FBI Q type target. It is broken down into 8 segments 25 yd, 15, 10, 7, 5 and 1. In all segments you are required to draw from concealed, fire and hit the target. Positions are standing, kneeling, and ready. There is one segment where you must shoot with your "off hand" another where you must do a quick magazine reload. Time of each segment varies from 2 to 30 seconds as fast shooting. You will fire 60 rds and be required to hit the target 48 times or more to pass the qualification test. Most ranges will NOT allow you to draw and fire a loaded gun from a holster so this must be looked at. You can only qualify with the pistol that you intend to carry. Not easy right now as the requirements for NJ carry are identical for FBI agents and law enforcement.. That's not the qualification at GFH. From their website: Qualification Course: In the range you will demonstrate familiarity of safe handling of firearms. Upon successful completion you will be given a certificate to submit with your application. All of our instructors are PTC, NRA and LE certified. Gun For Hire has been qualifying security, private carry and retired police since 1992. This is not a beginner course! You will be required to demonstrate safety, familiarity, and accuracy. It is pass or fail. – No holster needed – All shooting from the ready position – 50 rounds per firearm – FBI Q target – 24 rounds at 7 yards – 14 rounds at 10 yards – 6 rounds at 15 yards – 6 rounds at 25 yards For a total of 50 rounds. Must hit at least 40 rounds out of 50 (80%) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oneshot 45 Posted July 1, 2022 59 minutes ago, 124gr9mm said: That's not the qualification at GFH. From their website: Qualification Course: In the range you will demonstrate familiarity of safe handling of firearms. Upon successful completion you will be given a certificate to submit with your application. All of our instructors are PTC, NRA and LE certified. Gun For Hire has been qualifying security, private carry and retired police since 1992. This is not a beginner course! You will be required to demonstrate safety, familiarity, and accuracy. It is pass or fail. – No holster needed – All shooting from the ready position – 50 rounds per firearm – FBI Q target – 24 rounds at 7 yards – 14 rounds at 10 yards – 6 rounds at 15 yards – 6 rounds at 25 yards For a total of 50 rounds. Must hit at least 40 rounds out of 50 (80%) Thats what i saw as well. I was going to ask where he got his info from about course of fire Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.Stu 1,922 Posted July 1, 2022 The CoF for qualifying is not specified anywhere. It appears to be up to the instructor running the qual to decide what he/she wants in order to be satisfied that you are competent and safe. Many people are leaning towards the HQC1, HQC2 & HNQC as there is little scope for the authorities to argue with the validity as that is what RPOs qualify doing. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kman 56 Posted July 1, 2022 I would hope they set up something different for qualifying with a revolver. 24 shots at 7 yards under time constraints would be pretty difficult if you have to reload a J frame 5 times. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
124gr9mm 859 Posted July 1, 2022 25 minutes ago, kman said: I would hope they set up something different for qualifying with a revolver. 24 shots at 7 yards under time constraints would be pretty difficult if you have to reload a J frame 5 times. Call GFH. The website asks that you bring at least 3 speed loaders for revolver. That implies there's no time constraint. IMO the FBI/Police quals being referenced are not necessary. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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ShootersShooter 120 Posted July 1, 2022 Scheduled for my CCW qualification course next Wednesday morning. Ironic that after waiting 50 yrs. for the laws to change I get it 2 days after Independence Day. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Golf battery 1,223 Posted July 4, 2022 I wonder if hollow points will be able to be carried? Also. Since nj considers an air pistol a firearm. Can you carry that if you qual with it. Just wondering 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shocker 151 Posted July 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Golf battery said: I wonder if hollow points will be able to be carried? Latest GFH podcast opines (Bach? Nappen? He didn’t say) it’s still no. Stick with critical defense/pow’r’ball etc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CMJeepster 2,778 Posted July 10, 2022 On 7/4/2022 at 1:33 PM, Golf battery said: I wonder if hollow points will be able to be carried? Also. Since nj considers an air pistol a firearm. Can you carry that if you qual with it. Just wondering I'll bring mine right over. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1LtCAP 4,263 Posted July 11, 2022 On 7/4/2022 at 1:33 PM, Golf battery said: I wonder if hollow points will be able to be carried? Also. Since nj considers an air pistol a firearm. Can you carry that if you qual with it. Just wondering just took a ccw course yesterday. as of now, no. critical defense is apparently allowed though..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites