DirtyDigz 1,812 Posted January 12, 2023 Gloucester County: Quote I wanted to pass along some information I received in an email yesterday from Tracy at the GC courthouse. She said (and I’ll post pics of the email chain) that if I/we/you have your PTC with “see court order” checked that you no longer need to have firearms added and that I/we/you can carry any firearm we own. This is because of the passing of A4769. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RMcG323 0 Posted January 12, 2023 i was told that as of Tuesday the permit template was available to local PD's via a NJSP website they have access to. I was also told that it wasn't working properly. Has anyone had any luck getting issued permit thru local PD? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike77 169 Posted January 12, 2023 33 minutes ago, RMcG323 said: i was told that as of Tuesday the permit template was available to local PD's via a NJSP website they have access to. I was also told that it wasn't working properly. Has anyone had any luck getting issued permit thru local PD? Without sounding like a dick, but have you read any posts on here? There are plenty that got their PTC going thru local PD. Didnt you ask this the other day? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RMcG323 0 Posted January 12, 2023 11 minutes ago, Mike77 said: Without sounding like a dick, but have you read any posts on here? There are plenty that got their PTC going thru local PD. Didnt you ask this the other day? I don't recall reading anything about someone whose application never went to the court prior to 12/22 getting their PTC from a local PD. I am specifically talking about PTC that have never been to the court. Until Tues it was impossible bc no local PD had the permit template to issue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike77 169 Posted January 12, 2023 1 minute ago, RMcG323 said: I don't recall reading anything about someone whose application never went to the court prior to 12/22 getting their PTC from a local PD. I am specifically talking about PTC that have never been to the court. Until Tues it was impossible bc no local PD had the permit template to issue. You did not state that in your comment. Being the law is only 2 weeks old, and law states 60days from time paperwork is handed in... Seems odd asking if anyone submitted paperwork after 12/22, and asking if they got their PTC already. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RMcG323 0 Posted January 12, 2023 10 minutes ago, Mike77 said: You did not state that in your comment. Being the law is only 2 weeks old, and law states 60days from time paperwork is handed in... Seems odd asking if anyone submitted paperwork after 12/22, and asking if they got their PTC already. let me put it this way....my application was submitted to the PD on 11/28 with fingerprints already done. Everything was handed in to the Chief to do his work on the background/mental health and references etc....it was approved and has been sitting waiting to be issued since the courts were removed from the process and they had no permits to issue me...Tues the permit was avail to local PD via a NJSP website that the chiefs all have access to, however, I was advised that it was not working so my permit can still not be issued. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrAceJD 21 Posted January 12, 2023 5 hours ago, DirtyDigz said: Gloucester County: So is the prevailing view that permits with court orders that restrict the permit to a specific firearm no longer do so? I feel like we would need a new permit issued otherwise it's a risk... I am in this situation as my permit was issued by Monmouth County and it was limited the specific pistol with which I qualified... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,664 Posted January 12, 2023 54 minutes ago, MrAceJD said: So is the prevailing view that permits with court orders that restrict the permit to a specific firearm no longer do so? I feel like we would need a new permit issued otherwise it's a risk... I am in this situation as my permit was issued by Monmouth County and it was limited the specific pistol with which I qualified... The actual legislation does not state you have to qual with the exact gun you carry. That was a constraint the court imposed in some places. Now that the courts are out of it, if you have been approved for a CCW license and have a qualification on record (shot with any handgun you own) then you can carry (within the scope of NJ Law) any other handgun you legally own. If you are already carrying on a permit that has already been issued by the court, and there are court imposed restrictions, I recommend you contact the issuing court or an attorney to determine if the court order still applies until your permit expires and you re-up. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrAceJD 21 Posted January 12, 2023 8 minutes ago, High Exposure said: The actual legislation does not state you have to qual with the exact gun you carry. That was a constraint the court imposed in some places. Now that the courts are out of it, if you have been approved for a CCW license and have a qualification on record (shot with any handgun you own) then you can carry (within the scope of NJ Law) any other handgun you legally own. If you are already carrying on a permit that has already been issued by the court, and there are court imposed restrictions, I recommend you contact the issuing court or an attorney to determine if the court order still applies until your permit expires and you re-up. That logic makes sense. The process was so administratively fatiguing the first time. When I inquired (before the new law was passed) on how to add new hand guns, I was told the Monmouth County judge wanted all new applications to add a pistol. The juice wasn't worth the squeeze on that, I would live with the one pistol. But if it's easier now, that's a different story... 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Moutinas 59 Posted January 13, 2023 On 1/10/2023 at 11:09 AM, RMcG323 said: Did you get yours from a local PD or NJSP? Local PD but court printed the permit, PD just handed under the glass, ha Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gidian 2 Posted January 13, 2023 Picked up PTC and it is has Employee of armored car company on it. that is incorrect. any suggestions to how to get it corrected without a new application process? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gidian 2 Posted January 13, 2023 On 12/13/2022 at 3:36 PM, Gidian said: So far I am impressed. I dropped off my application on Dec 8th in the early morning and my references received a letter in a postage paid envelope, Friday and Saturday, with a post mark of the 8th. meaning near zero delay in starting the process. I will keep you all posted, but wanted to share some initial impressions. Any idea how long it takes for mental health records to come back? Ok so besides the snafu with having employee of an armored car company on my PTC which I am not... December 8th to Dec 27th issue date, Jan 13th notified to pick it up. Not sure where or why it sat for two weeks, but that is my experience for Bridgewater NJ. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CMJeepster 2,778 Posted January 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, Gidian said: Picked up PTC and it is has Employee of armored car company on it. that is incorrect. any suggestions to how to get it corrected without a new application process? Call your PD first. Maybe they can do something about it now that the process has changed? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gidian 2 Posted January 13, 2023 12 minutes ago, Gidian said: Ok so besides the snafu with having employee of an armored car company on my PTC which I am not... December 8th to Dec 27th issue date, Jan 13th notified to pick it up. Not sure where or why it sat for two weeks, but that is my experience for Bridgewater NJ. Oh and one other thing. My permit is printed Black and while on heavy card stock, it doesn't have the blue header i see in other pictures. this thing looks like something that could be forged with crayons post card. But i guess it was printed at the PD and they dont have color printers.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MB24 37 Posted January 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Gidian said: Picked up PTC and it is has Employee of armored car company on it. that is incorrect. any suggestions to how to get it corrected without a new application process? Get a job with a armored car company. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gidian 2 Posted January 13, 2023 4 hours ago, CMJeepster said: Call your PD first. Maybe they can do something about it now that the process has changed? emailed licensing officer. his reply "That is part of the card it only means something it check off" so I guess I am good to go since there is no check in that box...it looks strange. Thoughts? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NJ2AMBR 8 Posted January 13, 2023 I think you’re good to go In Morris County, next to the photo, it reads RESTRICTIONS, with 3 boxes 1 none 2 see below 3 See court order see court order had an X in it. The court order said I was good to go with whereas’ and therefores’ and listed my pistol makes, SN’s and how to go about adding pistols to the order. Carry on Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike77 169 Posted January 14, 2023 4 hours ago, Gidian said: emailed licensing officer. his reply "That is part of the card it only means something it check off" so I guess I am good to go since there is no check in that box...it looks strange. Thoughts? That looks like a 8yr old made on a xerox copier, and stuck in a ziploc bag, and cut off the excess. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PoppaPops 16 Posted January 14, 2023 Is there any “Official” site that states we can carry any handgun other than the one(s) listed on our PTC? Just looking for clarification. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,664 Posted January 14, 2023 Read the legislation and consult an attorney. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gidian 2 Posted January 14, 2023 So now that I finally have a PTC for NJ, I can apply for a non res LTCF for Pa since I find myself crossing the border often. The process is super easy, but many county sheriff's website specifically state that they will not issue non resident permits although that is exactly what the process should be. There are two counties that have an online portals Berks and Philadelphia, both require you to be a resident of the county before you apply online. Has anyone cracked the code. i am wondering if they are not issuing non res due to a recent spike in NJ PTC applicants. I did email Phila and will report back when I hear from them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PEACEFROG 16 Posted January 14, 2023 York County Sheriff issues non residents. super easy on line. pickup at the satellite office once approved Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wcordes 5 Posted January 14, 2023 Delaware County is also issuing non residents. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Batt52 14 Posted January 14, 2023 Pike County as well is issuing non resident PTC. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NJ2AMBR 8 Posted January 14, 2023 Yup Pike was fast .. apply online.. they call you to make appointment.. you go and pay 20$… 10 min later you're out the door with your permit. Leave your cell phone and smart watch in car. Carry on Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Moutinas 59 Posted January 16, 2023 On 1/14/2023 at 9:42 AM, Wcordes said: Delaware County is also issuing non residents. I used the Delaware County website, paid online, was able to check status online and drove out to the courthouse and get my picture taken and license laminated and issued in 5 minutes. Real easy process. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
124gr9mm 859 Posted January 16, 2023 On 1/13/2023 at 11:24 PM, PoppaPops said: Is there any “Official” site that states we can carry any handgun other than the one(s) listed on our PTC? Just looking for clarification. The legislation indicates that one qualification covers you for whatever you're carrying (as long as you own it). ALSO, there are those who get their permit along with a court order that restricts carry to ONLY the particular guns that are listed. That's about as clear as it gets right now, so it's best to proceed with an abundance of caution and err on the side of following the most restrictive guidance. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PoppaPops 16 Posted January 16, 2023 12 minutes ago, 124gr9mm said: The legislation indicates that one qualification covers you for whatever you're carrying (as long as you own it). ALSO, there are those who get their permit along with a court order that restricts carry to ONLY the particular guns that are listed. That's about as clear as it gets right now, so it's best to proceed with an abundance of caution and err on the side of following the most restrictive guidance. Thanks for the info. Although "no restrictions" is checked off on my PTC, my court order does state: "The applicant may carry the following handgun: make/model/serial#". I'll stick to what's on my permit until all this smoke clears. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vdep217 63 Posted January 17, 2023 I didmt get an order but guns are listed on permit 8 hours ago, PoppaPops said: Thanks for the info. Although "no restrictions" is checked off on my PTC, my court order does state: "The applicant may carry the following handgun: make/model/serial#". I'll stick to what's on my permit until all this smoke clears. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bobby69 3 Posted January 17, 2023 Just called Hamilton PD in Mercer. Said it’s in the courts hands.As soon as they hear back from the courts they will call me. Dropped money order off back in late November or beginning of December ( just before all the Murphy nonsense). Also spoke to the Detective working on my app. just before dropping money order off & he said he spoke to my references & im good to go. they said they have no number or who to call at the courts to see what’s going on. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites