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By AndrewF329
Hello,
I play airsoft in NJ, NY, and PA and I was looking into the legality of owning and using blank fire airsoft grenades. These grenades are essentially a striker that activates a blank cartridge or a primer for the purpose of making noise (est. 120+ db). I have seen a ton of conflicting opinion but no facts whatsoever. I would assume the legality would depend on the state you're in (info for NY or PA also appreciated) so I am focusing on NJ which is my home state.
Here are some of the forum posts I have looked through. AMS Forum Post rules exclude them, not based on laws. Reddit Post talks about the ease of converting something into a zip gun. I think that kind of ruling would be opinion based on how hard it it to convert. Airsoft Society Post Minnesota classifies them as fireworks which makes them legal.
One thing I found classifies blanks (at least pistol caliber) are not "handgun ammunition". I don't know if that helps.
I think my next step will be to contact the NJSP Firearms Investigation Unit. I don't know if it will go anywhere but its worth a try.
Example products:
http://blankfiringgrenade.co.uk/
https://www.socomtactical.net/airsoft-accessories/pyros-and-grenades/reusable-blank-firing-grenades
https://ohshiboom.co.uk/
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By Midwest
Ammo shortage forces Police use Airsoft to train!
http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2013/04/18/east-bay-police-train-with-airsoft-guns-amid-ammo-shortage/
You got to know the ammo shortage is so bad when the police turn to training with Airsoft guns as a backup. This is the first I heard of an agency using Airsoft or any alternatives to conventional firearms and ammo to training. The agency is in the Bay area of Richmond California.
I guess so much for the stories that the ammo shortage is easing up?
"RICHMOND (KPIX 5) — A nationwide shortage of ammunition has forced several police departments, including Richmond, to find a backup solution for training rounds. Officers said the solution is just as effective as live ammo, not to mention cheaper."
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By Gorilla800lbs
Dear esteemed experts,
At the risk of asking yet another "is this gun legal?" question, I hope you can help me parse the 2C:39 when it comes to such thing as manufacturer licensed, BB or pellet-firing replicas of weapons that are enumerated as assault.
A perfect example is an MP5 PDW replica produced by Umarex. Edit: CO2 powered, shoots .177 BBs.
1. "Banned by name". "H&K MP5" is printed right there on the frame, but it's obviously not THE H&K MP5. It's an officially licensed replica which could as well be machined out of cheese or fine chocolate, so... But then again, 2C-39-1w says "any firearm..." that has a listed name, and this product is a firearm (according to NJ) and its name is on the list...
2. "Substantially identical". Despite being visually identical, this is not THE H&K MP5. One cannot expect, say, Secret Service or Delta squads to be able to use it interchangeably with the real MP5 PDW.
3. Limitations on stock, pistol grip etc -- do not seem to apply because this weapon doesn't match the 2C-39 definition of a "rifle" or a "shotgun".
4. High-capacity magazine -- definitely evil, but nothing that a pinning by a qualified FFL gunsmith wouldn't solve?
What is your opinion?
Thanks,
G.
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Someone's been doing their homework! The dashboard has saved many people a lot of work in trying to get data that proves that more guns does equal less crime. Data on N.J. Permit to Carry Applications Shows Excessive Waits – Bearing Arms Ironically, Mrs. 45Doll and I just re-upped our PA LTCFS and it took all of three days online. And cost $26.13 each.
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That's about $2 a gallon more than NJ. What's Newsome's plan to recoup those taxes if everyone goes electric?
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Pretty good chance we'll be out of here by mid-summer! It's so close I can taste the freedom.
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