Obama executive order expands Homeland Security reach into local law enforcement

[mikelets456 78]

This really, really bothers me more than all of the other BS things happening through this administration.

 

Especially since Obama has been on record saying:

"We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded."

 

What are the concerns? Why would they focus so much on this, yet ignore our borders?

 

http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/29/ob...w-enforcement/

 

President Barack Obama signed an executive order Friday that expanded the Department of Homeland Security’s ties to local law enforcement.

 

The executive order creates a White House Homeland Security Partnership Council and Steering Committee, aimed at fostering local partnerships between federal and private institutions “to address homeland security challenges.”

 

The council will be chaired by “the Assistant to the President for Homeland Security and Counterterrorism (Chair), or a designee from the National Security Staff.” The Council chair will also chair the Steering Committee.

 

The executive order comes weeks after a damning Senate report on Homeland Security’s 77 fusion centers, which the Washington Post called “pools of ineptitude, waste and civil liberties intrusions.”

 

The fusion centers were created between 2003 and 2007 as part of a joint effort between DHS and the Justice Department to ease information sharing among federal intelligence agencies, military services, and state and local law enforcement.

 

Those centers collected intelligence that the Senate report said was often “irrelevant, useless or inappropriate intelligence reporting to DHS, and many produced no intelligence reporting whatsoever.”

 

To date, Obama has signed 141 executive orders, which is a smaller number than either President George W. Bush or President Bill Clinton signed during their first terms.

 

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/29/ob...#ixzz2CCnmWosZ

[TK421 2]

Tell me again why civillians do not need "evil" assault weapons? There is going to come a day when you law enforcement folks are going to have to make a choice between what you have taken an oath to do and what you have been told to do. The rest of us will have our evil black guns ready just in case you make the wrong choice.

[claptrap 0]

Just another thing that he knows will never pass in a vote so he issues another executive order, we should have a limit on these things

[Blacksmythe 71]

This is indeed a sad, sad,sad, moment.

[ruger9 0]

Brownshirts, anyone?

[EchoMirage 137]

another step to becoming a nation-wide police state

[mipafox 438]

Just another thing that he knows will never pass in a vote so he issues another executive order, we should have a limit on these things

 

Actually, the power of the President or his designates to indefinitely detain US citizens on US soil with no warrant, no due process, and no trial or procedure for redress was indeed passed by a vote of the current Republican controlled House of Representatives. That also voted for the power of the President or his designates to kill any US Citizen on US soil with no warrant, no due process, and no trial.What is it again that they won't vote for? They already voted for Obama to be able to imprison or kill us at will. Not sure what could trump that. Maybe rape us at will? There's not much left.

[Kaiser7 33]

So I ask you guys, what will you do about it? Will you contact your legislators? What will you do? Remember, all it takes for evil to suceed is for good men to do nothing.

 

The problem is that no body does anything,t hey condemn it, but stay silent.

[mipafox 438]

So I ask you guys, what will you do about it? Will you contact your legislators? What will you do? Remember, all it takes for evil to suceed is for good men to do nothing.

 

The problem is that no body does anything,t hey condemn it, but stay silent.

 

I take it you plan to lead by example? What exactly did you do?

[High Exposure 5,678]

Tell me again why civillians do not need "evil" assault weapons? There is going to come a day when you law enforcement folks are going to have to make a choice between what you have taken an oath to do and what you have been told to do. The rest of us will have our evil black guns ready just in case you make the wrong choice.

 

I find it amusing that you make statements like this, yet have a storm trooper as your avatar. Just sayin.,,

[TK421 2]

I find it amusing that you make statements like this, yet have a storm trooper as your avatar. Just sayin.,,

 

Don't want to twist your noodle too hard but the storm trooper was lured into the ship, knocked out and never heard from again. The dude in the picture was actually the rebel that took him out and then dressed in his uniform. Just sayin'.

[deadeye74 5]

 

I take it you plan to lead by example? What exactly did you do?

 

Honestly, we can write, call, email, and fax out brains out. It won't make one bit of difference if the aides receiving the correspondence are programmed to ignore anything stating opposition to the order.

 

Not to be a downer, but I have little faith in politicians listening to "we the people". Once they get into office, it's about their agenda, not ours.

[Teky0101 6]

Does this mean the UN employees? I am curious to know what he is talking about!

[High Exposure 5,678]

 

 

Don't want to twist your noodle too hard but the storm trooper was lured into the ship, knocked out and never heard from again. The dude in the picture was actually the rebel that took him out and then dressed in his uniform. Just sayin'.

 

Ha! Well played! LOL

[TK421 2]

Ha! Well played! LOL

 

I have to admit, I was laughing so hard I was crying while typing that.

 

Seriously though, things are going to come to a point where a choice will need to be made. The Oath Keepers are onto something, where does your allegiance lie, with the Constitution and the rights of the people or to the bureaucrats and the laws enacted that are contrary to the Constitution and in violation of the oath of office? If the 20th century taught us anything it is that the nature of man is constant and that Edmund Burke was quite correct when he said "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." The mentality that "it cannot happen here" is an illusion. History shows us time and again that the current path we are on can only lead us to tyranny; it is not a matter of if it is a matter of when.

[ruger9 0]

I have to admit, I was laughing so hard I was crying while typing that.

 

Seriously though, things are going to come to a point where a choice will need to be made. The Oath Keepers are onto something, where does your allegiance lie, with the Constitution and the rights of the people or to the bureaucrats and the laws enacted that are contrary to the Constitution and in violation of the oath of office? If the 20th century taught us anything it is that the nature of man is constant and that Edmund Burke was quite correct when he said "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." The mentality that "it cannot happen here" is an illusion. History shows us time and again that the current path we are on can only lead us to tyranny; it is not a matter of if it is a matter of when.

 

Great post. I have only one slight disagreement: it has ALREADY lead to tyranny... "soft" tyranny, but tyranny nonetheless.

[KramD52 0]

This is what happens when people who are unfamiliar or uneducated about the candidates' ( their stances, policies, history, etc) vote based soley on political party affiliation or emotional frustration (dare I also say, revenge?). But thats Democracy in action....or maybe a better term during times such as these is the slang term "Ineptocracy". Hell, theres even a video of a female saying that she was going to vote for the prez again because he "knows how to party". Are you freaking kidding me?

Alas, the majority have spoken during this past election and the proverbial ball is now rolling full steam ahead......get ready for the ride, it's going to be a bumpy one.

[Blacksmythe 71]

hell even the empire let people have blasters.

[JackDaWack 2,895]

Does Homeland security + civilian security force = mercenaries?

[ruger9 0]

Does Homeland security + civilian security force = mercenaries?

 

no no... the mercenaries will be the law-abiding gun owners who actually believe the constitution and bill of rights still matters.

[Kaiser7 33]

I've been doing what I can, trying to teach people about the founding principles of the nation, and I've started writing a blog, which, yes, is probably useless, but, God willing, maybe people will pick up on it.

 

The problem with the nation is the Right/Left divide, instead of simply leaving others alone, both sides fight to strip others of their rights, viewing them as either "Unnecessary", "Outdated", "Immoral", or, worst of all, "Necessary for Security."

 

The people need to remember, our nation was set up so that no one could force anyone to do anything, the freedom was left up to choice, and people were the masters of their own destiny, and they could make their own decisions. We have forgotten that, and we are paying for it.

[EchoMirage 137]

This is what happens when people who are unfamiliar or uneducated about the candidates' ( their stances, policies, history, etc) vote based solely on political party affiliation or emotional frustration (dare I also say, revenge?). But thats Democracy in action....or maybe a better term during times such as these is the slang term "Ineptocracy". Hell, theres even a video of a female saying that she was going to vote for the prez again because he "knows how to party". Are you freaking kidding me?

Alas, the majority have spoken during this past election and the proverbial ball is now rolling full steam ahead......get ready for the ride, it's going to be a bumpy one.

 

 

and race

[njpilot 671]

 

 

I have to admit, I was laughing so hard I was crying while typing that.

 

Seriously though, things are going to come to a point where a choice will need to be made. The Oath Keepers are onto something, where does your allegiance lie, with the Constitution and the rights of the people or to the bureaucrats and the laws enacted that are contrary to the Constitution and in violation of the oath of office? If the 20th century taught us anything it is that the nature of man is constant and that Edmund Burke was quite correct when he said "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." The mentality that "it cannot happen here" is an illusion. History shows us time and again that the current path we are on can only lead us to tyranny; it is not a matter of if it is a matter of when.

 

 

 

 

Great post. I have only one slight disagreement: it has ALREADY lead to tyranny... "soft" tyranny, but tyranny nonetheless.

 

 

I think some people forget that the Oath they have sworn is not to any man or government, but to The Constitution.

 

When you have a Rep. admittedly say that most of what the do isn't provided for in The Constitution, we're in serious trouble.

 

[Ray Ray 3,566]

join a militia, i (we) have

[CageFighter 236]

Ray Ray.....when we shootin again?? I have sum new toys to test out???

[Cemeterys Gun Blob 165]

So I ask you guys, what will you do about it? Will you contact your legislators? What will you do? Remember, all it takes for evil to suceed is for good men to do nothing.

 

Pissing and Moaning is actually doing something....

[Josh S 0]

A Bill of Rights is what the people are entitled to against every government, and no just government should refuse, or rest on inference. 

Thomas Jefferson 

 

I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them. 

Thomas Jefferson 

 

My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government. 

Thomas Jefferson

 

God.... This man was just absolutely brilliant! Why is what he said, and all the founding fathers said fall on deaf ears anymore

 

[TK421 2]

A Bill of Rights is what the people are entitled to against every government, and no just government should refuse, or rest on inference. 

Thomas Jefferson 

 

I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them. 

Thomas Jefferson 

 

My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government. 

Thomas Jefferson

 

God.... This man was just absolutely brilliant! Why is what he said, and all the founding fathers said fall on deaf ears anymore

 

Short answer: The libtards control the public education system and they can not implement socialism without first making he electorate ignorant of our history.

[JackDaWack 2,895]

Short answer: The libtards control the public education system and they can not implement socialism without first making he electorate ignorant of our history.

 

Actually, its to opposite in some ways. Believe it or not but conservatives removed Thomas Jefferson from the history books. The largest district dictates what is included in text books, and TEXAS has the biggest district....loophole. Now, that doesn't mean we can't still teach about him. So the problem does fall on the "liberal" aspect of teaching and teachers.

[A-Tech 8]

join a militia, i (we) have

What is this militia you speak of?