USPS sucks

[Ray Ray 3,566]

Why can't they be honest when they deliver packages? Since the holiday season I've had 3 packages that were NOT delivered and no notice was left. I had to go to the post office to pick them up. The last one should have been here today, but it didn't come. The wife was home all day and nobody rang the bell. I tracked the package and it says notice left on door. LIES!!! No notice was left. UPS and FedEx are way better in this regard. They ring the bell or leave the package by my door.

 

EFF the post office

 

rant off

[NicePants 58]

Eeyup. They've pulled the same crap with me too. I was expecting a package once and had no notice left. When I finally caught the guy outside, I asked what was up. He swore up and down that he left a notice and rang my doorbell before leaving. I was up all morning and didn't hear the doorbell ring once.

[Luso 6]

It's a failing, money losing branch of the government. What do you expect???

 

I have a white hot hatred for USPS, and I pay whatever it takes to never use them. For work we would go to ship document mailers and the women at the counter would refuse to weigh anything more than 3 mailers because they said "we don't have time and people are waiting". They then "guessed" it was three stamps worth. I made a huge scene and they finally individually weighed them and most were double the weight. They were prepared to ship something out they knew was under postage just to get me to shut up and leave. I hate the USPS more than words can describe. There are always 5 windows for service, one person actually helping people, and three others walking and laughing in the back.

 

I am also the only one to ever say this....how are taxpayers not white with anger when they see the United States postal service use taxpayer money to air television commercials to advertise a government service that then loses billions of dollars??? Now they are talking about eliminating another day of service...everyone should stop using USPS until they finally close the entire joke of an operation and support private sector FedEx whenever possible

 

FedEx can spend all the millions on commercials it wants, because it isn't costing me a dime. Also...they have to make an effing profit otherwise they wouldn't exist, unlike the post office that just continues burning through our tax money.

 

Another thing...what a ridiculous socialist notion that the cost of mailing a one page letter across the street is the same price as mailing to Guam or Alaska. What an absolutely ridiculous notion. They need to go under

[H.M. Murdock 0]

It's a cushy job and pension but it won't last much longer. Some postal workers appreciate what they've got. And some are so nasty that you can't help but smile at their demise.

 

The worst part is the postal monopoly which prevents competitors from delivering mail unless it is urgent and marked up twice the rate of the USPS first class mail (6x the rate for the 1st oz.) Wouldn't be so bad if they didn't hemorrhage money in the process.

[Luso 6]

It's a cushy job and pension but it won't last much longer. Some postal workers appreciate what they've got. And some are so nasty that you can't help but smile at their demise.

 

The worst part is the postal monopoly which prevents competitors from delivering mail unless it is urgent and marked up twice the rate of the USPS first class mail (6x the rate for the 1st oz.) Wouldn't be so bad if they didn't hemorrhage money in the process.

 

This is absolutely right, and I forgot to mention it. Basically this is the painted scenario:

 

The government outlaws a certain type of delivery of mail, so that the USPS has a monopoly on it. Then they proceed to run their organization in the worst possible manner so that they bleed millions of dollars in losses every year due to bloated pensions and artificial pricing structures, forcing private sector competitors to arbitrarily charge more for the same service so that you are encouraged to patronize the usps. Then, they waste even more of your tax dollar money on tv commercials to convince you to use their failing service funded by more taxpayer dollars, that they by law keep competitors away from participating in fairly.

 

it's hard just following the logic. I can not wait to hear that the USPS is closing up shop forever. good riddance

[Shawnmoore81 623]

I've had enough of them too. I get home at 430 and my mail still isn't here. If someone is parked near my mail box he will skip my house. Then I confronted him about it because the car that is sometimes there isn't even my car, its my neighbors. Ups ftw

[Luso 6]

They have no incentive to do their jobs. Who are you going to complain to?

 

Can you imagine the owner of a fedex, liquor store, restaurant, etc..(let's say restaurant for this example) say

 

"oh im sorry, you're party is too big and we don't have time to serve your table of 10 because there are other smaller parties waiting behind you"

 

No one in their right mind turns down money. Only disgusting, lazy, bloated pension government workers at a post office would actually say to you they don't want your business because basically, they don't feel like doing work...and there is no one there who cares to yell at them.

 

And what's worse, it costs us all money. the post office had a purpose in the time of the pony express. The private sector is faster, cheaper (where they can compete), kinder, more convenient, and open for better hours. The USPS needs to go.

[bry@n 195]

 

 

I am also the only one to ever say this....how are taxpayers not white with anger when they see the United States postal service use taxpayer money to air television commercials to advertise a government service that then loses billions of dollars??? Now they are talking about eliminating another day of service...everyone should stop using USPS until they finally close the entire joke of an operation and support private sector FedEx whenever possible

 

FedEx can spend all the millions on commercials it wants, because it isn't costing me a dime. Also...they have to make an effing profit otherwise they wouldn't exist, unlike the post office that just continues burning through our tax money.

 

Another thing...what a ridiculous socialist notion that the cost of mailing a one page letter across the street is the same price as mailing to Guam or Alaska. What an absolutely ridiculous notion. They need to go under

 

The reason why it's the same price is because the cost is leveraged. How many people are semding letters to guam or Alaska? The price you pay for a stamp is what pays for the USPS. They are not Gov't funded other than a bailout.

 

It's a cushy job and pension but it won't last much longer. Some postal workers appreciate what they've got. And some are so nasty that you can't help but smile at their demise.

 

The worst part is the postal monopoly which prevents competitors from delivering mail unless it is urgent and marked up twice the rate of the USPS first class mail (6x the rate for the 1st oz.) Wouldn't be so bad if they didn't hemorrhage money in the process.

 

You obviously were never a carrier. A cushy job my ass. I was a carrier for two years and left because the job sucked. They have to work for 30 years to get to retire and by that time, most are beat to hell. Maybe it's less in states where they never leave the truck but the walking routes are a killer.

[bry@n 195]

I have shippped over 20k items in the last 5-6 years and never had an issue. Just had a issue with a gun shipped to IA. Took 8 extra days to get there. Between the storm and the holidays, it is what it is. So out of all the packages shipped, I can cut them a little slack.

 

 

btw, Ray, talk to the Postmaster at the local PO. That will help get the carrier in line. He is your problem.

[JackDaWack 2,895]

Why can't they be honest when they deliver packages? Since the holiday season I've had 3 packages that were NOT delivered and no notice was left. I had to go to the post office to pick them up. The last one should have been here today, but it didn't come. The wife was home all day and nobody rang the bell. I tracked the package and it says notice left on door. LIES!!! No notice was left. UPS and FedEx are way better in this regard. They ring the bell or leave the package by my door.

 

EFF the post office

 

rant off

 

had the same problem, we complained about the issue and it hasn't happened since. We had important time sensitive signature required documents being sent in the mail over the period of a month, it happened 3 times too, but we filed a complaint each time, this wasn't the first time it happened, but the mail itself was very important AND we knew that it was going to happen again a week later when we were expecting another document. The d-bag was leaving us final notices when we never received the 1st or 2nd.

[Luso 6]

The reason why it's the same price is because the cost is leveraged. How many people are semding letters to guam or Alaska? The price you pay for a stamp is what pays for the USPS. They are not Gov't funded other than a bailout.

 

 

 

You obviously were never a carrier. A cushy job my ass. I was a carrier for two years and left because the job sucked. They have to work for 30 years to get to retire and by that time, most are beat to hell. Maybe it's less in states where they never leave the truck but the walking routes are a killer.

 

Explain to me then: they are running negative operating income every year, they are constantly trying to eliminate another workday for their carriers. Where is the magical money coming from that is funding their operations if it isn't from taxpayers?

 

Do you truly believe it should cost 45 cents to ship something to California, just as it should cost 45 cents to mail something across town?

 

When you go to buy a car, can you buy a honda or a ferrari, whether or not one costs more to manufacture than another? Absolutely not. A letter to california needs to get on a truck, then an airplane, costs jet fuel, pilot's salary and benefits, more trucking, etc etc. It should never cost the same as a local delivery. Hence why fedex and UPS charge you different rates depending on where things are going.

 

Tell me, if they don't use taxpayer money and they fail to make a profit, who pays for their stupid television commercials with the goofy looking white guy who says "if it fits it ships"?

[Luso 6]

I have shippped over 20k items in the last 5-6 years and never had an issue. Just had a issue with a gun shipped to IA. Took 8 extra days to get there. Between the storm and the holidays, it is what it is. So out of all the packages shipped, I can cut them a little slack.

 

 

btw, Ray, talk to the Postmaster at the local PO. That will help get the carrier in line. He is your problem.

 

Bryan, I challenge you to do this.

 

 

Go up to a counter with 100 document mailers. Tell them there are different amount of paper in each one and they need to each get weighed.

 

I do this for my job very often, and in multiple post offices, in 3 different states (the magical number seems to be 3) if there are more than 3 envelopes or packages, they REFUSE to weight them because "it takes too long" or "there are people waiting in line". this is of course, after you waited 20 minutes in line because only 1 lane is ever effing open.

 

Try it, then come back and tell me they have good service.

 

Then, go to McDonalds, flash your credit card, and ask for 100 big macs. Go to Best Buy and tell them you want 10 flat screen tvs. Go to Macy's and tell them you want to buy 20 leather jackets.

 

NONE OF THEM WILL TELL YOU NO. They exist to serve you with what you demand, because if they didn't, they would go bankrupt.

 

That fear doesn't exist with the USPS, they can run deficits year after year, cut down their operations, skip your house when it comes to deliveries, tell you they don't want to help you when you go into the post office, and it doesn't mean sh*t to them. They have no check, no incentive, nothing.

 

Then go into a UPS or Fedex store and ask to ship 100 packages. The managers eyes will light up with dollar signs and treat you like a king

[H.M. Murdock 0]

You obviously were never a carrier. A cushy job my ass. I was a carrier for two years and left because the job sucked. They have to work for 30 years to get to retire and by that time, most are beat to hell. Maybe it's less in states where they never leave the truck but the walking routes are a killer.

 

I've got a family member that was a carrier (truck). She didn't get beat to hell but did develop CTS from her career. Then again, I developed carpal tunnel at my job over the past 20 years.

 

30 years until retirement? Waa. I get to work 49 years total before I get to retire. If there's any social security left. No pension, period.

 

I'm sticking with my original statement.

[bry@n 195]

Explain to me then: they are running negative operating income every year, they are constantly trying to eliminate another workday for their carriers. Where is the magical money coming from that is funding their operations if it isn't from taxpayers?

 

Do you truly believe it should cost 45 cents to ship something to California, just as it should cost 45 cents to mail something across town?

 

When you go to buy a car, can you buy a honda or a ferrari, whether or not one costs more to manufacture than another? Absolutely not. A letter to california needs to get on a truck, then an airplane, costs jet fuel, pilot's salary and benefits, more trucking, etc etc. It should never cost the same as a local delivery. Hence why fedex and UPS charge you different rates depending on where things are going.

 

Tell me, if they don't use taxpayer money and they fail to make a profit, who pays for their stupid television commercials with the goofy looking white guy who says "if it fits it ships"?

 

I still stand by my statement. Nothing has changed. Leverage is the way it's supposed to work. Whether or not it is working is another story. Tell me where you can go in this world and mail something across a country for $.45? Only in the US. It's a bargain if you ask me, although I prefer email.

 

 

Bryan, I challenge you to do this.

 

 

Go up to a counter with 100 document mailers. Tell them there are different amount of paper in each one and they need to each get weighed.

 

I do this for my job very often, and in multiple post offices, in 3 different states (the magical number seems to be 3) if there are more than 3 envelopes or packages, they REFUSE to weight them because "it takes too long" or "there are people waiting in line". this is of course, after you waited 20 minutes in line because only 1 lane is ever effing open.

 

Try it, then come back and tell me they have good service.

 

Then, go to McDonalds, flash your credit card, and ask for 100 big macs. Go to Best Buy and tell them you want 10 flat screen tvs. Go to Macy's and tell them you want to buy 20 leather jackets.

 

NONE OF THEM WILL TELL YOU NO. They exist to serve you with what you demand, because if they didn't, they would go bankrupt.

 

That fear doesn't exist with the USPS, they can run deficits year after year, cut down their operations, skip your house when it comes to deliveries, tell you they don't want to help you when you go into the post office, and it doesn't mean sh*t to them. They have no check, no incentive, nothing.

 

Then go into a UPS or Fedex store and ask to ship 100 packages. The managers eyes will light up with dollar signs and treat you like a king

 

I did this but with 20 packages years ago and then realized by getting a pitney bowes machine, I saved myself money. I was able to weigh the packages myself faster than it could be done at the PO and save $$ by only paying exact postage. It was a pain but I merely stated I waited my time just like they can wait their time. I had to ask for the postmaster to finally not have trouble. This was prior to me streamlining the operation. The streamlining saved me a bundle and I had the carrier pick the packages up at my house. So it saved me a trip to the PO also. On the flip side, my PO knows who I am and takes care of me.

 

I've got a family member that was a carrier (truck). She didn't get beat to hell but did develop CTS from her career. Then again, I developed carpal tunnel at my job over the past 20 years.

 

30 years until retirement? Waa. I get to work 49 years total before I get to retire. If there's any social security left. No pension, period.

 

I'm sticking with my original statement.

 

30 years to get to retire in that job sucks. management is just ridiculous. Besides that, the pay sucks. They top out in the $50's if that much and that's now. When I was in, $50's was attainable with OT. Couldn't pay me $100k a year to go back to that job.

[smoe_picka 0]

The USPS like other government entities DOD, EPA, AMTRAK are not designed to make money. The honest truth is simply they are there to spend money. Being a government entity also means you must expend the same or more each FY to maintain funding. The military does this ritually every Sep. Fall out money as it referred to is deposited in accounts to be spent by 1159 Sep30. It's a horrible waste of money and business as usual. The largest of these fiscal errors have been enacted since the government began adopting the corporate mentality in a system that can't function as a corporation because it's a money losing proposal from the start

FedEx and UPS slaughter the USPS because they are a corporation and own the process from a-z . Take the 727 FedEx uses for example. The first pallet covers all the expenses from pilots fuel and maintenance. The other

containers are all profit . The fundamentals are all wrong when the government takes something over and drowns it under layers of ineptitude and complacency.

[Luso 6]

I still stand by my statement. Nothing has changed. Leverage is the way it's supposed to work. Whether or not it is working is another story. Tell me where you can go in this world and mail something across a country for $.45? Only in the US. It's a bargain if you ask me, although I prefer email.

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Whether or not it is working isn't another story, IT IS THE STORY! And it is not a valid comparison. the federal government forbids first class mail by private carriers, they are obligated to inflate the price artificially, SO AS DELIBERATELY NOT TO COMPETE WITH USPS. If fedex and ups were allowed to compete in this segment of letter mail, they would blow the USPS out of the water.

 

This is equivalent to the government and 2 private companies each running a car wash. As a consumer all you want is a car wash, but the government will pass a law saying you can only do a full body detail at the private companies, and only the government car wash can do an exterior wash, and if the private carriers do offer only an exterior wash, they are obligated to charge 6xs as much.. how is that impressive to you? That's fascism, not impressive business maneuvering.

 

To say that it is impressive to send something across the country for 45 cents shows how dumb their logic is. THEY ARE RUNNING ON A DEFICIT. THAT'S WHY ITS IMPRESSIVE, BECAUSE THAT PRICE IS WAY TOO CHEAP. They could say it costs 2 cents and lose money. That would be even MORE impressive. why not do that? The fact of the matter is, it costs way more than 45 cents to make something go 3000 miles to california. Their business model obviously doesn't work, because they aren't profiting. there is nothing to be impressed with here.

 

That's like a ferrari dealer charging 20,000 dollars for their cars , and you're impressed you picked it up at such a great price. then when the dealer is bankrupt, they just take more taxpayer money to make up for their deficits, and then write a few commercials just to top it all off.

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I did this but with 20 packages years ago and then realized by getting a pitney bowes machine, I saved myself money. I was able to weigh the packages myself faster than it could be done at the PO and save $$ by only paying exact postage. It was a pain but I merely stated I waited my time just like they can wait their time. I had to ask for the postmaster to finally not have trouble. This was prior to me streamlining the operation. The streamlining saved me a bundle and I had the carrier pick the packages up at my house. So it saved me a trip to the PO also. On the flip side, my PO knows who I am and takes care of me.

 

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you are right, I can do this...if i CHOOSE to. Choose is the operative word. I don't give a rats behind if they dont WANT to do it, but if I walk into their store to ship 20 boxes, whether its convenient for me or not, I dont care. THEY BETTER DO IT. again, no mcdonalds will turn you away because you are "ordering too many big macs". What kind of sick business philosophy is it to lose money year after year, and then proceed to turn away business!!???

 

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30 years to get to retire in that job sucks. management is just ridiculous. Besides that, the pay sucks. They top out in the $50's if that much and that's now. When I was in, $50's was attainable with OT. Couldn't pay me $100k a year to go back to that job.

 

 

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boo hoo, so quit! which apparently you did! no one is holding a gun to people's head and forcing them to do a job they don't want to. if the value proposition of working at the post office isn't worth it to you, then don't work there. It will either be worth it to someone else who will be thankful to do it, or if no one wants to, they will have to adjust their compensation to attract talent in the market of job seekers. its simple capitalism. And that's the rub, the post office isn't a capitalistic enterprise. That's why it sucks, it's inefficient, brazenly irresponsible, and it loses money.

[Luso 6]

The USPS like other government entities DOD, EPA, AMTRAK are not designed to make money. The honest truth is simply they are there to spend money. Being a government entity also means you must expend the same or more each FY to maintain funding. The military does this ritually every Sep. Fall out money as it referred to is deposited in accounts to be spent by 1159 Sep30. It's a horrible waste of money and business as usual. The largest of these fiscal errors have been enacted since the government began adopting the corporate mentality in a system that can't function as a corporation because it's a money losing proposal from the start FedEx and UPS slaughter the USPS because they are a corporation and own the process from a-z . Take the 727 FedEx uses for example. The first pallet covers all the expenses from pilots fuel and maintenance. The other containers are all profit . The fundamentals are all wrong when the government takes something over and drowns it under layers of ineptitude and complacency.

 

what a beautiful and novel thing; a service that does more of what I want for less money, and they make a sick profit while doing it. fancy that

 

I would love to see every post office in the united states replaced with fedex's opened 7 days a week with great hours, maybe even something crazy like past 5pm when the majority of working class people can actually go there to give them business. And when they buy up airtime on television for a commercial, my blood pressure doesn't need to go through the roof, because it didn't cost me a penny. They only have to answer to their shareholders. But judging by fedex's profits over the past years, I am confident their shareholders are doing just fine

[RecessedFilter 222]

I love how my USPS guy doesn't want to get out of his truck, so he pulls into the driveway when he has a package for me and literally tosses it towards my deck hoping it will bounce up the stairs and land next to the door. It's so aggravating when you hear him pull in, so you look out the window and see that happen. Argghhw2lcz;aa.

[Socom 19]

I ordered bullets from precision delta and they ship USPS so I followed my tracking number says delivered I go home and he left both packages 32 lbs each outside on the steps! I was. friggin pissed his job is to deliver to my door! And yes they are some lazy fucks! Especially the Bayonne post office omfg they are do bad!

[71ragtopgoat 23]

One time I got home just as the postman was leaving my mail box. I opened it to see the slip that says we tried to deliver now come get your letter. I raced up the block and caught him two houses away. Showed him the slip. He told me he only delivers the slip another guy brings the letter! I smiled and he smiled right back at me.

Cant make this stuff up.

[Luso 6]

they are garbage. they need to go.

 

next we should start having commercials for the state police

 

"is someone harassing you? do you have a neighbor building an annoying pool that you suspect might be violating an ordinance? are you tired of driving the garden state parkway without having received a citation in 6 months? call the NJ State Police! We would be glad to cost you money in a variety of fun and interesting ways! Call in the next hour, and we can throw in some additional retirement benefits that our union will haggle from the unsuspecting tax payers! order now!"

 

like you have a choice to call someone else. Does everyone understand yet that the USPS is one of my hotbuttons? they are a joke

[Ray Ray 3,566]

The Bayonne office is the worst. 30 people in the back, 20 people in line, and 1 person working the counter (and she's on her smart phone too)

 

God Bless Amurica

[silverado427 10,751]

LOL I ordered a kindle for the wife, The mailman was to lazy to walk it up to my door and leave it on the steps. So what does he do The moron tapes it to the mail box. Anybody could walked off with it.

[BlueLineFish 615]

they are garbage. they need to go.

 

next we should start having commercials for the state police

 

"is someone harassing you? do you have a neighbor building an annoying pool that you suspect might be violating an ordinance? are you tired of driving the garden state parkway without having received a citation in 6 months? call the NJ State Police! We would be glad to cost you money in a variety of fun and interesting ways! Call in the next hour, and we can throw in some additional retirement benefits that our union will haggle from the unsuspecting tax payers! order now!"

 

like you have a choice to call someone else. Does everyone understand yet that the USPS is one of my hotbuttons? they are a joke

 

Comparing the NJSP to the USPS is a joke

[liquidskin 3]

Last year a few weeks before Christmas, I was expecting a package delivered via USPS with signature confirmation. I knew I wouldn't be home, so I put a note on my door with my signature and a request to leave the package at the door. I was fairly certain it wouldn't work, but tried anyway. Somehow from my request, the post office updated their system that I moved and returned all my mail to the senders for the next week or two. Nobody at the post office could tell me anything, if it wasnt for me printing out the tracking status of a package I was expecting, I dont think they would have believed me. Took a face to face conversation with the postmaster to get the situation rectified.

[njpilot 671]

They are a mess fiscally because of their pension system, the ridiculous salaries for upper management and the fact that they just will insanely over pay for middle managers houses when moving them to a new location. Was on 60 minutes last year how they were buying houses for postal workers when the worker wanted to move, wasn't forced, and was paying way over market value for their houses. What do they care, they are getting our money in these obscene and criminal bailouts.

[Xchange1980 0]

Yes I agree, I can tell you as a former Mailman, there are alot of very lazy Mailman especially the "vet's" i.e 15-20 yrs on the job. I remember in the morning they would purposely case there mail very slowly so that when time came to pull your mail there like" oh Im not gonna be able to finish on time so they could give part of there routes to the schleps like me and other guys. There was one guy in my office who use to come look for me on the road and try and bribe me to deliver part of his route. USPS has to be one of the worst places to work. The older guys are entirely overpaid for the work they do. You dont even want to know how packages are handled while being sorted.

[Soju 153]

When you are in the customer service business and have no incentive to do it well, this is what happens.

[Socom 19]

 

Comparing the NJSP to the USPS is a joke

You if anyone should know Joe; take forums with a grain of salt!

[Luso 6]

Comparing the NJSP to the USPS is a joke

 

I never said the state police is the same as the usps. I am drawing the parallel of using your money to fund television advertising for an organization that has a monopoly on a certain aspect of a business, and then proceeds to run their shop in a way that loses even more money.

 

For letter mail, you dont have a choice. just like when you call the police for help. It would be ridiculous if police forces used your tax dollars for TV ads telling you to call them when you need help. why isn't it just as ridiculous when the USPS makes ads telling you to ship products with them?