iRescue 0 Posted January 15, 2013 Obama will announce his gun control package tomorrow after hearing recommendations from crazy uncle Biden's group. He will be flanked by, get this, "children who have written the white house urging for gun control action to be taken" Looks like he will do some executive orders to enforce current laws on books and maybe urge congress to pass mag ban or close loophole. Sounds like they're giving up on the complete AWB. Here we go.... Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jrfly3006 42 Posted January 15, 2013 Wait for it.. Wait for it.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueLineFish 615 Posted January 15, 2013 Let the games begin. Tomorrow should be very interesting Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iRescue 0 Posted January 15, 2013 Actually now white house spokesman saying he will offer legislative options for AWB, high cap mags and federal background checks... Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
millsan1 3 Posted January 15, 2013 The NRA should do their reply presser surrounded by children who are alive because a good guy with a gun saved their lives. Stupid posturing and sound bites are attacking the foundation of our society. Awesome. At least it plays well on TV. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jamesbod 0 Posted January 15, 2013 I'm always happy to listen to what my president has to say. jay bozo at the whitehouse just said they'll be little kids standing behind the Prez at the announcement tomorrow. you know, those pawns who wrote to the whitehouse after sandyhook Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T Bill 649 Posted January 15, 2013 He's not giving up on AWB, He's doubling down. Count how many times NY will be mentioned in the announcement! Cuomo's the ice breaker and Feinstein the hatchet man! They'll have to pass it, so they can read what's in it! (snicker) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gunguy1960 2 Posted January 15, 2013 Its about creating a safe work environment for criminals. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheDon 3 Posted January 15, 2013 I have a really sore pet peeve about the term gunshow "loophole." It is NOT a loophole. It is our Constitution! The Constitution prohibits the Federal Government from regulating commerce within the states. Only the States can regulate legal trade between two citizens. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T Bill 649 Posted January 15, 2013 Its about creating a safe work environment for criminals. More like "See only we know what's good for you. You need us!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Parker 213 Posted January 15, 2013 Someone on the NY Highpower Forum said that 'what Cuomo just pulled in NY will only embolden Washington D.C..' Joe is saying, "We've got them right where we want them." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BOOMSTICK 6 Posted January 15, 2013 Joe is saying, "We've ot them right where we want them." While the preggo woman in the background is texting. hahahahha Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handyman 5,682 Posted January 15, 2013 Looks like he will do some executive orders to enforce current laws on books ... I'm not lawyer, but do you need an executive order to enforce a law? Oh wait, I guess you do when you are selectively enforcing some and not others. It helps you keep track. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gunguy1960 2 Posted January 15, 2013 If LEOs swear to uphold the constitution, how do they enforce these gun laws? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Underdog 1,593 Posted January 15, 2013 Someone on the NY Highpower Forum said that 'what Cuomo just pulled in NY will only embolden Washington D.C..' Joe is saying, "We've got them right where we want them." This is all being choreographed and coordinated. The emperor from NY got his memo from the Fright House. The elite have screwed up this country so much and they want to take us to a place we don't want to go... martial law, a complete financial meltdown, collapse, a dictatorship, and all of the suffering to go along with it. So, in order to do so, they need more control over us. They fear us. If nothing else, they need to desensitize and condition us, and they are afraid of how honest people will react when families are going hungry, not getting medical care, and inundated with rabid venomous crime. This is about liberty verses tyranny. The socialist (at best), community-organizing CINO (Christian in Name Only) czar (and probably a Wuslim) won't stop until we are defeated and he is head of the intergalactic empire. The largely stupid American people deserve all of this! They had the nation with the most blessings and promise on this planet, and they sold it for 40 pieces of socialist statist $hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handyman 5,682 Posted January 15, 2013 If LEOs swear to uphold the constitution, how do they enforce these gun laws? Do LEOs (non-Federal) even swear an oath to the US Constitution? Or to the state constitution? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Jay 0 Posted January 15, 2013 If LEOs swear to uphold the constitution, how do they enforce these gun laws? Well if it's Wyoming, you detain them LOL. I'd love to see it happen but I doubt it will in NJ. Then again, there are a lot of LEOs in this state vehemently for the 2nd amendment. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JacksonLee 4 Posted January 15, 2013 According to a Washington Post article I just saw it seems that he's going to go for everything tomorrow via executive order... AWB, mag restrictions, and private gun show sales (w/o a background check)... President Obama will unveil a sweeping set of gun-control proposals at midday Wednesday, including an assault weapons ban, universal background checks and limits on the number of bullets that ammunition clips can hold, according to sources familiar with the plans. http://www.washingto...rc=al_comboNP_p Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gunguy1960 2 Posted January 15, 2013 Some states are already saying they will not join this insanity, in the same fashion some states ignore federal marijuana laws, so is christy on our side, or do we all become instant criminals? If prez pushes that high capacity means more than 7 we all have some expensive paperweights, clever stuff, leave the guns just outlaw the magazines. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voyager9 3,439 Posted January 15, 2013 I don't read it as everything will be EO.. sounds like he has proposals for congress and then additional EO's. President Obama will unveil a sweeping set of gun-control proposals at midday Wednesday, including an assault weapons ban, universal background checks and limits on the number of bullets that ammunition clips can hold, according to sources familiar with the plans. The announcement, which press secretary Jay Carney said is scheduled for about 11:45 a.m. at the White House, is also expected to include a slate of up to 19 executive actions that the Obama administration can take on its own to attempt to limit gun violence. I'm sure the proposals will be one-sided, over reaching, further erosion of at least the 2nd amendment, and won't do s*** to solve the problem. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mx597turbo 0 Posted January 15, 2013 Then again, there are a lot of LEOs in this state vehemently for the 2nd amendment. If that's the case, why are all of us in Essex County waiting 4+ months for our FID, with another 3 to go? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GlassFanta 0 Posted January 15, 2013 If that's the case, why are all of us in Essex County waiting 4+ months for our FID, with another 3 to go? LOL yep. They're Pro-Gun all right, pro-gun as far as the one on their hip is concerned. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NicePants 58 Posted January 15, 2013 So, you all showing up on the 8th? We're going to need all the help we can get to beat this one. Nothing like using little kids to destroy the Constitution. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted January 15, 2013 LOL yep. They're Pro-Gun all right, pro-gun as far as the one on their hip is concerned. that is a sad truth in this state Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diamondd817 828 Posted January 15, 2013 "Gun control package", how quickly we forget. Wasn't this about keeping our children safe at school? And what happened to all the talk about mental health? I guess this is just the great American gun grab. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old Glock guy 1,127 Posted January 15, 2013 This is all being choreographed and coordinated. The emperor from NY got his memo from the Fright House. The elite have screwed up this country so much and they want to take us to a place we don't want to go... martial law, a complete financial meltdown, collapse, a dictatorship, and all of the suffering to go along with it. So, in order to do so, they need more control over us. They fear us. If nothing else, they need to desensitize and condition us, and they are afraid of how honest people will react when families are going hungry, not getting medical care, and inundated with rabid venomous crime. This is about liberty verses tyranny. The socialist (at best), community-organizing CINO (Christian in Name Only) czar (and probably a Wuslim) won't stop until we are defeated and he is head of the intergalactic empire. The largely stupid American people deserve all of this! They had the nation with the most blessings and promise on this planet, and they sold it for 40 pieces of socialist statist $hit. PO, your diatribe sounds a bit paranoid, but there is a ring of truth to a lot of it, IMHO. Just heard Lou Dobbs last night, a guy who is conservative but fairly well-grounded, say that before the government can go after the other amendments, they need to get that pesky second one out of the way. (I'm paraphrasing here, but that was the gist of it.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GlassFanta 0 Posted January 16, 2013 We already have warrant-less wiretapping, assassination of US citizens, indefinite detention, e-mail spying, for almost a decade now. Sometime a few years back, federal courts even ruled that evidence gained by police through illegal searches was still valid in court. They've already gone after plenty of other amendments in our lifetime. They didn't need to wait to get rid of the second one. All they needed to do was keep the bellies full, the balloon mortgages flowing, and the TV on. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Underdog 1,593 Posted January 16, 2013 PO, your diatribe sounds a bit paranoid, but there is a ring of truth to a lot of it, IMHO. Just heard Lou Dobbs last night, a guy who is conservative but fairly well-grounded, say that before the government can go after the other amendments, they need to get that pesky second one out of the way. (I'm paraphrasing here, but that was the gist of it.) PO, your diatribe sounds a bit paranoid, but there is a ring of truth to a lot of it, IMHO. Just heard Lou Dobbs last night, a guy who is conservative but fairly well-grounded, say that before the government can go after the other amendments, they need to get that pesky second one out of the way. (I'm paraphrasing here, but that was the gist of it.) I would love to be wrong. Paranoid would be thinking that the mass shooting in Connecticut was a setup to promote gun control. However, there is a lot of evidence, misinformation, etc. to suggest that there is more to the story including the lack of connection of the mother to the school, her supposed profession, etc. Just as with the death of JFK, things don't seem to add up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
acuevo 0 Posted January 16, 2013 the children wrote that we should ban guns, they must be right. why don't we just elect a child for our next president???? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chris327 30 Posted January 16, 2013 anyone know where we can watch it? will it be on the major channels? 11:45? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites