Bob2222 317 Posted February 11, 2013 Christie has 45 days after any bills pass both the Assembly and Senate to veto them, sign them, or if he does nothing, they become law. The NJ SAFE Task Force was established January 17 and is supposed to have its recommendations within 60 days. I think it's a good guess that he'll wait for his task force to report before he does anything. He's vetoed gay marriage, minimum wage, online gambling etc. All would have been easy to sign. I couldn't find a total for the number of bills that Christie has vetoed, but a Google search for "Christie vetoes" came up with 9,180 results. He doesn't seem to be signing an awful lot of bills. http://www.app.com/a...on-168-year-low New N.J. laws from last session at a 168-year low Christie makes history with fewest signed Jan 27, 2013 | New Jersey laws in a year Fewest 2012 80 2006 103 1847 109 1846 114 1850 123 2010 123 2008 131 1990 134 2002 134 1848 136 1849 136 Most 1888 837 1873 723 1871 625 1872 603 1983 579 1869 577 1981 570 1868 566 1985 543 1874 534 Source: New Jersey Legislative Manuals TRENTON — Not in nearly 170 years, and perhaps far longer, have fewer laws been enacted in New Jersey than the 80 bills signed by Gov. Chris Christie in the last legislative session. To some, that’s a badge of honor — a sign of Trenton being turned upside down, even the imprint of a conservative governor. “That’s the best news I’ve heard about this administration. That’s awesome,” said Steve Lonegan, who challenged Christie for the nomination in 2009 and heads Americans for Prosperity’s chapter in New Jersey. “The last thing we need is more laws. What’s the old saying Benjamin Franklin said? ‘No one’s safe when the Legislature’s in session.’ If you believe in limited government, less government intrusion, that’s a great thing. We want less bills signed.” Like him, love him or hate him -- Christie sure isn't a typical New Jersey Republican governor. FWIW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maksim 1,504 Posted February 11, 2013 its awesome, I would add the link to the Fortune or Frobes articles where they said NJ was the number 1 state people were leaving. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matty 810 Posted February 11, 2013 Best to try and stop this tripe before it gets to the Gov desk. Not only keep pounding the Assembly L& PS and all your own Assembly creatures, with calls,emails,faxes,letters--also pound the Senate, especially the leadership. Sweeney, Norcross, et. al. If the bills don't make it past the Senate, then there's nothing for Christie to do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Socom 19 Posted February 12, 2013 I just wrote these news bills are ridiculous and we do not need any more control, if they want to propose a bill please pass a ccw bill to have a hand in fighting crimes then I signed my name Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
njpilot 671 Posted February 12, 2013 Well, I think we better all hope that Christie will veto most of these bills. If we have to rely on the Democrats to actually listen to what we have to say and think that they will vote against these bills, we all need our heads examined. With the exception of a few Democrats, I think just about all of them will vote for these bills. They don't give a rats a** what you and I think. Sad truth in this shithole state. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kahout 0 Posted February 12, 2013 Sad truth in this shithole state. Sad truth in The United Socialist States of America :wild: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
papercutninja 24 Posted February 12, 2013 Wait, if the Governor does NOTHING then it automatically becomes LAW?! How is THAT allowed?!? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TooBigToFit 2 Posted February 12, 2013 Wait, if the Governor does NOTHING then it automatically becomes LAW?! How is THAT allowed?!? Pocket veto not an option eh? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maksim 1,504 Posted February 12, 2013 Once again guys.... the governor while he is a "Republican".... is not a gun rights advocate. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M1152 713 Posted February 12, 2013 '[email protected]'; '[email protected]'; '[email protected]'; '[email protected]'; '[email protected]'; '[email protected]'; '[email protected]'; '[email protected]'; '[email protected]'; '[email protected]'; '[email protected]' The Emails of the people to write to. The Safety committee. done Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mmjr 0 Posted February 12, 2013 Messages sent Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bob2222 317 Posted February 12, 2013 I think Christie will go along with whatever his NJ SAFE Task Force comes up with --- so let's just hope it doesn't recommend 10 round magazines, prohibition of internet ammo sales and classifying a .50 rifle as a destructive device. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alec.mc 180 Posted February 12, 2013 I think Christie will go along with whatever his NJ SAFE Task Force comes up with --- so let's just hope it doesn't recommend 10 round magazines, prohibition of internet ammo sales and classifying a .50 rifle as a destructive device. They are. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hcasillasjr 1 Posted February 12, 2013 This was my message, and I sent it to all members....stole it from the NRA website. Subject: no more frivolous laws! As your constituent, I strongly urge you to oppose any legislation to ban so-called "assault weapons" and "large" ammunition magazines. A previous ban on these inanimate objects was in effect from 1994-2004 and had no discernible effect on violent crime. In fact, a study of the ban mandated by Congress found: "At best, the assault weapons ban can have only a limited effect on total gun murders, because the banned weapons and magazines were never involved in more than a modest fraction of all gun murders." Tens of millions of Americans choose to own semi-automatic firearms with ammunition magazines that hold more than 10 rounds for the same reason as law enforcement officers: they are effective for self-defense. One never knows how many rounds he or she will need for self-defense or defense of others, or how many criminals may attack. Thus having a firearm that allows its lawful user to discharge multiple shots can often be the difference between life and death. In fact, a number of studies have shown that firearms are used for self-defense hundreds of thousands of times to 2.5 million times annually. This amounts to guns being used 3-5 times more often for self-defense than to commit a crime. Rather than expanding previously failed legislation that won't curb violence, but will affect law-abiding gun owners, I urge you to support legislation to enhance school security and improve our nation’s ailing mental health system. Thank you, [my name] Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_Matrix 105 Posted February 12, 2013 Just finishing writing to all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vass 5 Posted February 12, 2013 Emailed them, I'll call and fax tomorrow. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bob2222 317 Posted February 12, 2013 They are. And he will accept those and some others while vetoing the rest....just the way for him to straddle the fence... I dunno. The NJ SAFE Task Force includes a couple of shrinks, a specialist in drug/alcohol rehab, an educator, a Marine and a former AG who was a NJ Supreme Court justice that the NJ legislature actually tried to impeach. There might be some overlap, but I don't think their recommendations will have an awful lot of overlap with the things that the Assembly wants to do. Based on his record so far, vetoing bills written by Democrats seems to be one of the high points of Christie's day. This is kabuki, of course. But we still all need to play along. "Early" (Feb/Mar) 2016 Presidential Primary Calendar (so far) February Tuesday, February 2: Colorado caucuses1 Minnesota caucuses Missouri Utah Tuesday, February 23: Arizona Michigan March Tuesday, March 1: Colorado caucuses1 Massachusetts Oklahoma Tennessee Texas Vermont Virginia Tuesday, March 8: Alabama Hawaii Republican caucuses Mississippi Tuesday, March 15: Illinois Saturday, March 19: Louisiana (California and New Jersey's 2016 primaries aren't until June so they are pretty much irrelevant to the process.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lham 0 Posted February 12, 2013 emailed and faxed. See you tomorrow Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PDM 91 Posted February 12, 2013 At this point I am fairly certain the 5 round mag bill won't make much progress. It's interesting that it isn't even scheduled for hearing on Wednesday. Senator Gordon, one of the sponsors of the 5 round bill, appeared at the same anti-gun rally as Senator Weinberg, a sponsor of the 10 round bill. I wouldn't be at all surprised if they coordinated this to make the 10 round bill look like the "compromise" position rather than the shafting that we all recognize it to be. My hope is that the lack of a grandfather clause will give Christie the cover to veto it. "I'm ok in principal with a 10 round limit, which was the limit under the Federal AWB and is the law in many other states, but won't sign a bill that turns citizens into retroactive criminals" or something like that. Of course, I also think it is possible that the bill will be amended to include some sort of grandfather clause before it hits the floor, in which case I am almost certain it would pass and get signed into law. Just a guess. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lunker 274 Posted February 12, 2013 So, I have faxed and called all the Assemblymen and women. First off, Assemblyman Albano's admin/receptionist almost cut me off by quickly stating that he will be voting against all of the gun control bills. And he's a Democrat. Next, the person answering Assemblyman Cryan's phone must be getting tired/annoyed. He barely made a pretense of taking my name and information. I didn't correct him when he read my name spelling back to me completely wrong. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maksim 1,504 Posted February 12, 2013 We must be getting to them. Must keep it up. Sent from my SGH-T889 using Tapatalk 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jm1827 284 Posted February 12, 2013 I emailed yesterday, called and faxed today and am working on getting my wife to do the same. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EchoMirage 137 Posted February 12, 2013 i mailed and faxed yesterday and today Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PDM 91 Posted February 12, 2013 The woman in Mainor's office didn't even ask for my name. She cut me off and asked me what I was calling to support or oppose and I told her and she said thanks and hung up. I am getting the impression that these people are swamped with calls, which is a good thing. Great news about Albano. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NJCK 5 Posted February 12, 2013 Called again this morning, and this time was asked if I was for or against and goodbye! My fax has been set to resend every 8 hours, and it's had to redial each number no less than 10 times this morning! Keep it up all! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BOOMSTICK 6 Posted February 12, 2013 Called again this morning, and this time was asked if I was for or against and goodbye! My fax has been set to resend every 8 hours, and it's had to redial each number no less than 10 times this morning! Keep it up all! Sounds like they had to hire someone just to take those calls. Hopefully they are keeping track instead of just asking and hanging up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kahout 0 Posted February 12, 2013 I'm afraid to say that most of these politicians have their minds made up and have an agenda to follow. I, like you, have voiced my objections to the bills before the Assembly but I have my doubts that I have changed anything. Keep bombarding them I say, at lease we feel better. We will not change anything if we don't speak up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zell959 40 Posted February 12, 2013 I'm afraid to say that most of these politicians have their minds made up and have an agenda to follow. I, like you, have voiced my objections to the bills before the Assembly but I have my doubts that I have changed anything. Keep bombarding them I say, at lease we feel better. We will not change anything if we don't speak up. I think that, with a lot of them, it isn't really about changing their minds. It's about forcing them to ask themselves "are these bills important enough to have the office phone, fax & email exploding for weeks to come?". I.E. Making it cost something for them to keep towing the line on the anti-gun offensive. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old Glock guy 1,127 Posted February 12, 2013 Christie has 45 days after any bills pass both the Assembly and Senate to veto them, sign them, or if he does nothing, they become law. I believe it's just the opposite. If he doesn't sign them, that's a "pocket veto." Seems like that might be something he would do with these, or so we hope. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bob2222 317 Posted February 12, 2013 http://www.njleg.sta.../legprocess.asp Law A bill becomes law upon the Governor's signature or after 45 days if no action is taken. If the House of origin is in recess on the 45th day, the time is extended until it reconvenes. (Different rules apply to bills passed during the last 45 days of a two-year session.) If vetoed, a bill may become law if the Legislature overrides the veto by a 2/3 vote. A law takes effect on the day specified in its text or, if unspecified, the next July 4th. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites