We're Looking For The Bomber - And we want to search your house

[45Doll 5,877]

I was just wondering if I lived in the MA towns where they're going house to house looking for the bomber, and they came to my door asking to come in and search (without a warrant), how I would answer them.

 

And if they demanded to come in without a warrant?

 

And how about if they got to your house and you weren't home or just didn't answer the door?

[Secret Squirrel 3]

You don't live in MA, they aren't going door to door in your town, you aren't harboring a fugitive.

 

Who cares?

[mikeyboyeee 66]

I do not think I would let them in personally.

 

They can't just legally barge in.

 

If I did not answer the door, I would expect it not to be broken down and if it were, my attorney would be handling a very high profile case for me.

[tony357 386]

i saw that on their interview, not sure they are entering homes they did not say that, and that can be an issue if they are you may open yourself up to incrimination unknowingly by giving them permission to search your home..

 

I would tell them he is not hear and if he was you can drag him out..

[Vicious 138]

If you are there, it would be fair to open the door/ hang out the window and say all safe here. If you weren't home, they would probably treat it like a suspected B&E call where they just check for signs of illegal entry/ look through windows. Can any LEO with training chime in on this?

[Vlad G 345]

Before you rush to a conclusion imagine the following scenarios:

 

House 1:

 

Knock Knock

Police! We are searching for Terrorist, may we come in?

Sure officer, take a look around, but everything is fine.

 

House 2:

 

Knock Knock

Police! We are searching for Terrorist, may we come in?

No, I have my rights I'm calling my lawyer!

 

House 3:

 

Knock Knock

Police! We are searching for Terrorist, may we come in?

No, I have my rights I'm calling my lawyer! ( the other room a terrorist has a knife to your daughters throat and promises to kill her if you let them in)

 

Now, put yourself in the shoes of the police.

 

This isn't as simple of a question as people would like to make it.

[jrfly3006 42]

Get over yourselves people... They want someone who has vowed to kill more people.. Dont think they have time to search for ancillaryt..theyre covering all bases...anyone harboring that a$$hole can say hes not here move on.. Unique curcumstances here.. Enough with the absolutism.. Sometimes exigency needs a little room.. Those searching for them dont have the freeking time to note other findings.. 3 innocents and 1 cop dead..1 dangerous douchebag.. Help out rather than looking for conspiracies..be the only home that didnt allow them in.. Just wait for that no-knock warrant to be issued within minutes..

[Shawnmoore81 623]

On this situation I'd allow a quick search. Quick is the key word. Just walk through and visually inspect the rooms for the perp. If they tried going beyond that I'd ask them to leave.

[Walt of Destiny 412]

Before you rush to a conclusion imagine the following scenarios:

 

House 1:

 

Knock Knock

Police! We are searching for Terrorist, may we come in?

Sure officer, take a look around, but everything is fine.

 

House 2:

 

Knock Knock

Police! We are searching for Terrorist, may we come in?

No, I have my rights I'm calling my lawyer!

 

House 3:

 

Knock Knock

Police! We are searching for Terrorist, may we come in?

No, I have my rights I'm calling my lawyer! ( the other room a terrorist has a knife to your daughters throat and promises to kill her if you let them in)

 

Now, put yourself in the shoes of the police.

 

This isn't as simple of a question as people would like to make it.

 

+1 Of course.

 

We sometimes lose situational awareness because we get so tightly wrapped up in "me".

 

 

 

 

[bhunted 887]

Not a problem, but no entry without a box of fresh bakery donuts. And no touchy nada....

 

I was just wondering if I lived in the MA towns where they're going house to house looking for the bomber, and they came to my door asking to come in and search (without a warrant), how I would answer them.

 

And if they demanded to come in without a warrant?

 

And how about if they got to your house and you weren't home or just didn't answer the door?

 

 

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[va_bank 0]

I'd let them in.

[KWGOOD1980 0]

Get over yourselves people... They want someone who has vowed to kill more people.. Dont think they have time to search for ancillaryt..theyre covering all bases...anyone harboring that a$$hole can say hes not here move on.. Unique curcumstances here.. Enough with the absolutism.. Sometimes exigency needs a little room.. Those searching for them dont have the freeking time to note other findings.. 3 innocents and 1 cop dead..1 dangerous douchebag.. Help out rather than looking for conspiracies..be the only home that didnt allow them in.. Just wait for that no-knock warrant to be issued within minutes..

 

This. The original post was clearly geared towards the assumption that they would be looking for other things. E.g. guns. They really could care less about your little collection when looking for a terrorist lol.

 

Loosen the tinfoil.

[67gtonut 847]

Let them in....... Let them do their job.....

[Shawnmoore81 623]

Btw I'm pretty sure today they don't care about warrants

[Soju 153]

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

 

If I was in an area where they have reason to believe the perp is there, a search would not be unreasonable. Now I don't know if they did/do, but it would make sense that they may actually have had some sort of blanket search warrant for the area looking for the guy. Now as some of you may know, I am a huge believer in the US Constitution, and have spoke adamantly out against violations of rights. But even if they didn't have a warrant, I'd let them in for the sole purpose of looking for him. Considering what is going on, I find it difficult to believe they would do anything more than look for him too. Of course I'd have told them first if he was here, either he would have killed me, or I would have killed him by now, but sure, come in and look.

[BOOMSTICK 6]

Let them in....... Let them do their job.....

 

Agreed. They arent there to look for guns. They just want the suspect in custody. You could probably answer the door with a bag of weed in your hand and they would not give two craps about it. They just want HIM.

[Walt of Destiny 412]

 

Agreed. They arent there to look for guns. They just want the suspect in custody. You could probably answer the door with a bag of weed in your hand and they would not give two craps about it. They just want HIM.

 

Yes.

 

And reason also dictates that if I lived in this area would make damn sure that anything that would be misconstrued as a threat like a weapon or cans of powder for my reloading hobby would be safely stored out of sight.

 

The pressure that LE is under right now is so overwhelming that the onus is on the innocent to present a non-threatening atmosphere. Or all bets are off.

 

 

[Arbelest 29]

Something in the patriot act possibly that if you in hot pursuit of a terrorist you don't need a search warrant? ("Hot pursuit" will be determined by a judge of course). Also I think the community care taking act comes into play possibly. Either way they most likely don't need a warrant to come in and search all occupiable rooms of your house in this given circumstance.

[Wolfjon 0]

In a situation like this I would definatly allow them access. I want to make sure they are not delayed in finding this guy and if i spend 5-10 minutes bickering with the police over my rights it gives this guy more time to get away. I want them in and out as quick as possible it move and and find him

[wooly bugger 1]

I have enough faith in the good faith of LE to let them in. They don't have time to be doing searches for no reason, so they no doubt have probable cause.

 

Only concern is how they would react to the loaded shotgun I would have nearby in this situation.

[BOOMSTICK 6]

Something in the patriot act possibly that if you in hot pursuit of a terrorist you don't need a search warrant? ("Hot pursuit" will be determined by a judge of course). Also I think the community care taking act comes into play possibly. Either way they most likely don't need a warrant to come in and search all occupiable rooms of your house in this given circumstance.

 

We need to ask your avatar (Buford T. Justice) about "hot pursuit"

[Howard 538]

Let them look. This is not one bad cop looking to jack you up - there are hundreds or maybe thousands out there and they have but one thing they are after.

[Shawnmoore81 623]

 

 

Saying no wont do you much good in this situation. Honestly you'd be an a-hole if you did. These are extreme circumstances and you need to let them do their job.

[Arbelest 29]

We need to ask your avatar (Buford T. Justice) about "hot pursuit"

 

Haha that may not be the definition I'm looking for here...

[thegerb50 0]

 

 

Saying no wont do you much good in this situation. Honestly you'd be an a-hole if you did. These are extreme circumstances and you need to let them do their job.

 

 

 

 

I think they would win!

 

 

let them in, its for the greater good.

[e80hydro 120]

They need to bring in Walt Teasel.

[wooly bugger 1]

 

 

Saying no wont do you much good in this situation. Honestly you'd be an a-hole if you did. These are extreme circumstances and you need to let them do their job.

Is it just me, or is this a bit excessive in hunting down a single person. I'm not in LE, so my opinions is perhaps naive. I'd probably want that kind of force if it were me on the hunt.

[Bbott 1]

I would open the door with my handgun holstered and let them know everything inside is "a-okay".

[Walt of Destiny 412]

Is it just me, or is this a bit excessive in hunting down a single person. I'm not in LE, so my opinions is perhaps naive. I'd probably want that kind of force if it were me on the hunt.

 

Are we sure it's a single person?

 

And that however many it is, that they don't have mass murder in mind?

 

 

[johnnyrebel70 0]

Is it just me, or is this a bit excessive in hunting down a single person. I'm not in LE, so my opinions is perhaps naive. I'd probably want that kind of force if it were me on the hunt.

 

If they were competant they would have him already, Having that many LEO's looking for 1 guys is rediculous