raz-0 1,259 Posted July 5, 2013 https://www.courthousenews.com/2013/07/03/59061.htm The gang in blue this time. At least they went less lethal on the dog. Oddly enough, I fairly recently heard the argument that the second was an artifact of the times just like the third. Interesting that they are perusing the issue on those grounds. So to the LEOs who say it is a few bad apples. I'll remind you the saying ends with ruins the bunch. Would you or wouldn't you participate in this bs? As I also said you'll have to pick a side eventually. I suspect as the economy continues down the crapper, people will get highly intolerant of crap like this. The sanctity if ones home is a line that will likely resonate harshly with the populace when you claim it is at your disposal first. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M4BGRINGO 139 Posted July 5, 2013 Wow, will be interesting to see what really happened there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walt of Destiny 412 Posted July 5, 2013 Wow, will be interesting to see what really happened there. We'll never know. Just like newtown. Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
checko 180 Posted July 5, 2013 Holy hell. I'm skeptical of this only because its hard to believe anyone could be so monumentally inept to think that it would be OK to do that. If it indeed happened the way the plantiff accuses, I hope they crucify these mongoloids. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maintenanceguy 510 Posted July 5, 2013 If, and it's a big if, the officers actually did this, they need prison time and a lot of it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damjan 73 Posted July 5, 2013 I m sure more details will follow explaining both sides of the story. The officers would have to be declared soldiers though. Here is a case where the National Guardsmen were qualified as soldiers and th alawsuit was brough by corrections officers. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engblom_v._Carey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
njJoniGuy 2,131 Posted July 5, 2013 I predict a secret huge financial settlement with the plaintiffs (the taxpayers of Henderson get hosed), the officers involved suffer nothing but minor administrative disciplinary action, and we never hear anything about this travesty of justice ever again. Par for the course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
illy 1 Posted July 5, 2013 Holy hell. I'm skeptical of this only because its hard to believe anyone could be so monumentally inept to think that it would be OK to do that. If it indeed happened the way the plantiff accuses, I hope they crucify these mongoloids. If, and it's a big if, the officers actually did this, they need prison time and a lot of it. I don't think there are any ifs here: "Defendant Officer David Cawthorn outlined the defendants' plan in his official report: 'It was determined to move to 367 Evening Side and attempt to contact Mitchell. If Mitchell answered the door he would be asked to leave. If he refused to leave he would be arrested for Obstructing a Police Officer. If Mitchell refused to answer the door, force entry would be made and Mitchell would be arrested.'" That sounds like the Henderson PD thought doing this was well within the scope of their power. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nitrospaz9 10 Posted July 5, 2013 I hope these idiots end up doing time for this crap if its true Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silverado427 10,731 Posted July 5, 2013 If this story is true Then the officers must do time , and kicked off the force. jmho Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
remixer 1,645 Posted July 5, 2013 This guy just hit the lotto! Those cops will be fired and he will sue the crap out of the PD and possibly even them personally. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lunker 274 Posted July 5, 2013 These cops don't need firing. They need ass hammering on the big house. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
djg0770 481 Posted July 5, 2013 Given the complaint, this appears indefensible. I would like to hear the other side of the story and their reasoning. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handyman 5,682 Posted July 5, 2013 I would love to comment, but I already have my two strikes. So have a blessed day, everyone. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silverado427 10,731 Posted July 5, 2013 I would love to comment, but I already have my two strikes. So have a blessed day, everyone. :wild: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jrfly3006 42 Posted July 5, 2013 I'll reserve full judgement till all the facts are out in court.. And curious to see if Feds get involved as they usually do in civil rights cases.. That being said if you as LE do something so egregious and wrong.. To include fabricating story and documenting it on a official report.. Then you deserve the jam sandwhich you are going to get including time in the clink, monetary damage and firing.. And your department will enjoy the Federal monitor it will get for a few years..Again stranger accusations have been falsely brought against LE but if they were dumb enough to pull this stunt.. Then its game over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sof 0 Posted July 5, 2013 I'll reserve full judgement till all the facts are out in court.. And curious to see if Feds get involved as they usually do in civil rights cases.. That being said if you as LE do something so egregious and wrong.. To include fabricating story and documenting it on a official report.. Then you deserve the jam sandwhich you are going to get including time in the clink, monetary damage and firing.. And your department will enjoy the Federal monitor it will get for a few years..Again stranger accusations have been falsely brought against LE but if they were dumb enough to pull this stunt.. Then its game over Sounds too dumb to be real Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
raz-0 1,259 Posted July 5, 2013 Holy hell. I'm skeptical of this only because its hard to believe anyone could be so monumentally inept to think that it would be OK to do that. If it indeed happened the way the plantiff accuses, I hope they crucify these mongoloids. Two plaintiffs, they did it to two homes, at least that is how the story reads to me. I find it unlikely that officers will be fired. This was conducted by many officers, and judging form the details in the story, was accepted and approved by supervisors at the very least. Even if the domestic situation was a hostage situation, if I'm stupid enough to not want to vacate, you have no obligation to protect me according to the supreme court. Even if I leave, what right do you have to be in my home without my permission? There are no exigent circumstances going on in my home if nobody is there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bry@n 195 Posted July 5, 2013 I predict a secret huge financial settlement with the plaintiffs (the taxpayers of Henderson get hosed), the officers involved suffer nothing but minor administrative disciplinary action, and we never hear anything about this travesty of justice ever again. Par for the course. I think your correct. I mean this seems so far out there but I won't judge every cop based on this. In sure some higher up have the orders for this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RUTGERS95 890 Posted July 5, 2013 this kind of stuff wont' stop until police realize that defense of the 'blue wall' is criminal Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vlad G 345 Posted July 5, 2013 Stop believing that most police departments give a crap about your rights. Individual officers may, but as a matter a policy it is pretty clear that most departments do not. At some point officers will have to start thinking really hard about if the job they are doing is what they thought they would be doing when they signed up. Check this out for example: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nikos 31 Posted July 5, 2013 It gets better... Henderson Police beating of a man who was in diabetic shock and a golden parachute for the police chief... http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2012/feb/16/henderson-chiefs-resignation-adds-final-ingredient/#axzz2YD0CvJjd Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nikos 31 Posted July 5, 2013 Stop believing that most police departments give a crap about your rights. Individual officers may, but as a matter a policy it is pretty clear that most departments do not. At some point officers will have to start thinking really hard about if the job they are doing is what they thought they would be doing when they signed up. Check this out for example: That's fukked up! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
monmouth 19 Posted July 6, 2013 WTF, how dare they enter that home without wiping their feet first!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walt of Destiny 412 Posted July 6, 2013 We keep electing people that realize that freedom can easily be swapped for a steady payment from the government. This is not a LEO problem. It is an us problem. Taunting LEOs at a stop like this teaches nobody anything. Vote them out. That teaches them something. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lightfighter124 3 Posted July 6, 2013 I would love to comment, but I already have my two strikes. So have a blessed day, everyone.I have one so far and if that's what it takes and infringe the 1st right, so be it. Create new accounts. Yes, plural. Then mask ip. J.I.C. but for now, I'll side with you. FYI http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._District_of_Columbia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
djg0770 481 Posted July 6, 2013 I have one so far and if that's what it takes and infringe the 1st right, so be it. So much interwebs muscular fail here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lightfighter124 3 Posted July 6, 2013 I called someone an asshole over a discussion over why a dog was shot without any de-escalative steps by police officer. If calling someone that was wrong I get, but I'm fine with that as long as I had the right to express my displeasure with the person(s) and officers. Don't I? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
djg0770 481 Posted July 6, 2013 My point was your inaccurate pontification regarding your first amendment right. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites