notmetoo 41 Posted February 12, 2014 It may be just an amicus brief this time, but at least the NRA has turned an eye toward our plight. NRA gets behind NJ man's lawsuit challenging state's gun carry restrictions Not sure how much weigh it will carry in this forsaken state, but it's a start. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pjd832 146 Posted February 12, 2014 Can't wait to see if it actually goes anywhere... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RUTGERS95 890 Posted February 12, 2014 perhaps because they think there is a chance? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
remixer 1,645 Posted February 12, 2014 Or they are tired of being hung up on when asking for donations from jersians Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryan_j 0 Posted February 12, 2014 NRA has always been helping through the state affiliate (ANJRPC). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NEAHS 11 Posted February 12, 2014 NRA has always been helping through the state affiliate (ANJRPC). +1 A lot of people do not realize that the NRA does help NJ through money giving for the different court cases. The problem with the NRA is that they do not make most of this info public, like Antony Colandro has stated on Gun for Hire Radio. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
raz-0 1,259 Posted February 12, 2014 +1 A lot of people do not realize that the NRA does help NJ through money giving for the different court cases. The problem with the NRA is that they do not make most of this info public, like Antony Colandro has stated on Gun for Hire Radio. -1 We know it, it's just that the ANJRPC has been less about fighting the fight and mroe about negotiating the terms of our surrender. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A-Tech 8 Posted February 12, 2014 -1 We know it, it's just that the ANJRPC has been less about fighting the fight and mroe about negotiating the terms of our surrender. This. More of a some evil is better all evil. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom-NJ2AS 31 Posted February 12, 2014 I think since the NJ2AS has started the ANJRPC has stepped up. It's always good to keep everyone motivated. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RUTGERS95 890 Posted February 12, 2014 +1 A lot of people do not realize that the NRA does help NJ through money giving for the different court cases. The problem with the NRA is that they do not make most of this info public, like Antony Colandro has stated on Gun for Hire Radio. I did not know this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ogfarmer 138 Posted February 12, 2014 Also the NRA is probably feeling threatened by NAGR's claims in the Feb 6 Star Ledger article http://blog.nj.com/njv_guest_blog/2014/02/fight_gunfire_with_guns_in_cri.html The organization working hardest to restore and protect the people’s liberties throughout New Jersey is the National Association for Gun Rights. NAGR works on the front lines of the gun rights fight in New Jersey and stands behind the notion that America is still the land of free people. I feel that these groups are getting involved now that the groundwork has been laid by our grassroots organizations and they want to claim it as their own. I personally have never seen NAGR involved anywhere in NJ till now Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
W2MC 1,699 Posted February 12, 2014 I think since the NJ2AS has started the ANJRPC has stepped up. It's always good to keep everyone motivated. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Shame can be a powerful motivator. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pjd832 146 Posted February 12, 2014 Never heard of... nagr....how would that be pronounced?...who comes up with these acronyms and when think tanking in the start up ...writes NAGR down and says..."yes..this is what we want to go with"....reminds me of chapelle skits..... Lol smh Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dman2112 6 Posted February 12, 2014 I mean lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JayWilling 33 Posted February 12, 2014 NAGR is a P.O.S. poser. They just post a lot of old news on Facebook, get you to join in on something, and then pepper you with emails asking for money for the rest of your life. I signed on one thing ONCE with them, and now I get regular emails from 4 differently named entities (including Dudley Brown) who just keep emailing me. I have tried to unsubscribe but nothing works. The last time I tried there was a "comments" section for why I wanted out and I filled it with my best unprintable description. Didn't phase them at all. I don't think they actually DO anything except make money. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ogfarmer 138 Posted February 12, 2014 National Association for Gun Rights Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Newtonian 453 Posted February 12, 2014 I'm afraid we will get exactly what we ask for: That henceforth, NJ will issue carry permits to all kidnapping victims, and everyone who owns ATMs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pjd832 146 Posted February 12, 2014 I'm afraid we will get exactly what we ask for: That henceforth, NJ will issue carry permits to all kidnapping victims, and everyone who owns ATMs. Or even more likely "all mistaken identity pet store owner kidnapping victims" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Newtonian 453 Posted February 12, 2014 Or even more likely "all mistaken identity pet store owner kidnapping victims" According to Scott Bach egregious denial cases were selected to get the Supreme Court interested. The pet store guy eventually received his permit. But seriously, I worried about any ruling that would simply weaken the "need" requirement, rather than demolish it. OK, so even if you don't own a pet store or your cash machines are called Cash Access Nodes (CAN), you're fine. Maybe throw in fire inspectors and some other obscure group. That won't help us or substantially change the law. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Norseman 2 Posted February 12, 2014 I said earlier when discussing this: The NRA is like France. They see us doing all the work and possibly going to have a victory so they want to swoop in and then when we win they can look like it's thanks to them. But you know what? I don't care ...as long as we start exercising our right again without being imprisoned for doing so. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pjd832 146 Posted February 12, 2014 According to Scott Bach egregious denial cases were selected to get the Supreme Court interested. The pet store guy eventually received his permit. But seriously, I worried about any ruling that would simply weaken the "need" requirement, rather than demolish it. OK, so even if you don't own a pet store or your cash machines are called Cash Access Nodes (CAN), you're fine. Maybe throw in fire inspectors and some other obscure group. That won't help us or substantially change the law. The pet store guy may have gotten a permit...to squash it...but who wants to bet..the first/ second renewal with no incidents that his "justifiable need" will no longer be present and he will be denied?...will he dig in his pockets and start all over..or just give up.... I agree they may loosen some ...just enough to squash the noise ...with the nra/nj2a..assorted other abc groups walking away feeling victorious for a minor win...but only for the 2 cases but the rest of joe public will see no change....and the gubment pushing new laws on the other end...it's going to be years and years of back and forth battling in the courtroom to committee hearings .....before/if anything meaningful will come to the minions of the state... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zack 17 Posted February 13, 2014 It looks like Wyoming along with Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Missouri, Nebraska, New Mexico, Ohio, Oklahoma, South Carolina, South Dakota and West Virginia are looking to ask the Supreme Court to grant a hearing to John M. Drake and others who are challenging a recent appeals court ruling. They are all worried if the ruling stands it may be used to roll back some of their rights. Maybe we'll have a shot there, doesn't seem like much hope in state courts. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/02/13/1-states-join-legal-fight-against-new-jersey-concealed-weapons-law/?intcmp=latestnews Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vlad G 345 Posted February 13, 2014 You know .. I don't really care who takes credit if crap gets done. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Norseman 2 Posted February 13, 2014 You know .. I don't really care who takes credit if crap gets done. That is exactly how I feel. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Norseman 2 Posted February 13, 2014 It looks like Wyoming along with Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Missouri, Nebraska, New Mexico, Ohio, Oklahoma, South Carolina, South Dakota and West Virginia are looking to ask the Supreme Court to grant a hearing to John M. Drake and others who are challenging a recent appeals court ruling. They are all worried if the ruling stands it may be used to roll back some of their rights. Maybe we'll have a shot there, doesn't seem like much hope in state courts. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/02/13/1-states-join-legal-fight-against-new-jersey-concealed-weapons-law/?intcmp=latestnews I just hope all this isn't just for Drake and the rest of us are still denied. But this is great watching the country begin to take back our country! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notmetoo 41 Posted February 13, 2014 Common sense is breaking out all over! Unbelievable ruling in California: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/02/13/huge-win-for-gun-owners-in-california/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HuntingPaper 62 Posted February 13, 2014 You know .. I don't really care who takes credit if crap gets done.+1000 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyB 4,326 Posted February 14, 2014 You know .. I don't really care who takes credit if crap gets done. +10,000 I'm gonna start looking for a holster! Just window shopping for now though!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bulpup 98 Posted February 14, 2014 The states and the NRA are getting involved not to take credit but to ensure lil ole New Jersey doesn't make all the work they have done elsewhere null and void. At least that's the way I see ut Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites