Malsua 1,422 Posted January 9, 2015 So this isn't a game I have an answer to. I am wracking my brain trying to figure out what rifle these guys are holding...and I'm just not seeing it. I think that knock-out in the stock is throwing me off as it looks like an m1 Carbine but an M1 stock is canted downward and these are straight and the action looks different. It's almost like a K31 Carbine..but that's not it. I'm just missing it. Thoughts? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1563621 388 Posted January 9, 2015 Looks like an m1 carbine with a stock change. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GRIZ 3,369 Posted January 9, 2015 Front sight and magazine are wrong for a M1 carbine. Can't see the action that we'll but magazine and front sight look like a Mini 14. I might guess H&K SL6 but front sight is wrong. That may not be a cut out in the stock but an inventory label. I think Mini 14. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damjan 73 Posted January 9, 2015 Ruger Mini-14 with this stock on it? http://www.gunpartscorp.com/Products/1137970.htm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GRIZ 3,369 Posted January 9, 2015 Ruger Mini-14 with this stock on it? http://www.gunpartscorp.com/Products/1137970.htm Think you got it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueLineFish 615 Posted January 9, 2015 Ruger AC556 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wangsly 47 Posted January 9, 2015 http://www.nolasco.fr/AMD.htm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wangsly 47 Posted January 9, 2015 The roll marks and checkering are very cool. Never knew ruger labeled guns in French. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,878 Posted January 9, 2015 The website specifically says it's a French modified Mini 14 "French version of American rifle Brand RUGER - MINI Model 14 / 5.56mm - 5.56 x 45" Another image of a cop with the gun: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK90 3,573 Posted January 9, 2015 The website specifically says it's a French modified Mini 14 "French version of American rifle Brand RUGER - MINI Model 14 / 5.56mm - 5.56 x 45" Another image of a cop with the gun: That one different. Sights are forward and bolt handle is odd. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeerSlayer 241 Posted January 9, 2015 Definitely mini 14 magazine, action, and front site convinced me. Never saw that stock before, now I need one of those too! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GRIZ 3,369 Posted January 9, 2015 That one different. Sights are forward and bolt handle is odd. That looks similar to the bolt handle on a SL6. However, the oprod is enclosed on the SL6 forward of the breech and that looks more like a Mini 14 oprod with a SL6 handle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GRIZ 3,369 Posted January 9, 2015 Looks like the ac556 selector by his index finger. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CMJeepster 2,781 Posted January 9, 2015 It's one of the toy ones that, when you pull the trigger, the white flag of surrender pops out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barms 98 Posted January 9, 2015 I love anytime Swat teams are in pictures we ask "what kind of rifle isn that?" I was guilty of asking about the HK USC during Boston bomber. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vlad G 345 Posted January 9, 2015 It's one of the toy ones that, when you pull the trigger, the white flag of surrender pops out. A) They seem to be accounting quite well for themselves in this case and B) you should read this: http://www.breachbangclear.com/contributor-chris-hernandez-on-working-with-the-french-army/ The french soldiers don't deserve anyone's derision, even if sometimes their government does. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CMJeepster 2,781 Posted January 10, 2015 It's an old jab, kinda like the Polish navy submarines having screen doors. Lighten up, Francis! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vlad G 345 Posted January 10, 2015 It's an old jab, kinda like the Polish navy submarines having screen doors. Lighten up, Francis! Maybe you could have picked up a better time to pick on the french? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CMJeepster 2,781 Posted January 10, 2015 Maybe you could have picked up a better time to pick on the french? I'll back off the French (notice how I capitalize it?) if you guys back off the Muslims. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,671 Posted January 10, 2015 The FFL are bad dudes and one of the premier SF units in the world. They do not mess around. France has also been one of our largest, most consistent, and dependable allies in the GWOT. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CMJeepster 2,781 Posted January 10, 2015 And provider of fine wines. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tuktuk 16 Posted January 10, 2015 I must say in the last couple of days I ve seen a variaty of different firearms in the french hands. Very surprised on how it seems every department got their own pick .... even thou their police forces are much more centralized than ours... btw besides the military I didnt see any french made firearms ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,671 Posted January 10, 2015 I must say in the last couple of days I ve seen a variaty of different firearms in the french hands. Very surprised on how it seems every department got their own pick .... even thou their police forces are much more centralized than ours... btw besides the military I didnt see any french made firearms ... 2013 Paris MILIPOL French Ministry of Interior (POLICE) weapons booth. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tuktuk 16 Posted January 10, 2015 2013 Paris MILIPOL French Ministry of Interior (POLICE) weapons booth. Yep seen most of these ... plus beretta m-12s , above mentioned ruger , glock with 33rnd mag and others Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ogfarmer 138 Posted January 10, 2015 Shooting Illustrated 14 hrs · Edited · French police officer equipped with a Mousqueton A.M.D., a Ruger Mini-14 made for French police. #CharlieHebdo Find out more about this interesting contract carbine here: http://tinyurl.com/pvh43j3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GRIZ 3,369 Posted January 10, 2015 The FFL are bad dudes and one of the premier SF units in the world. They do not mess around. France has also been one of our largest, most consistent, and dependable allies in the GWOT. I met a guy who did 5 years in the Legion in the late 70s, early 80s. He didn't speak a word of French when he went in but spoke pretty fluent French when he got out. When you join the Legion you take an oath of allegiance to the Legion not to France as I understand it . Like becoming a Mason. While all the officers are French, most of the enlisted are not. I think even today over 100 nationalities are represented in the Legion. Legionaires are among the elite fighting units in the world. The brutality (not toughness) of their training makes them so. You have to remember they were formed in the 1800s because France didn't want to waste French soldiers fighting in their colonies. While they are given their missions by the French government most of them are not French. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,878 Posted January 10, 2015 Yeah I'm surprised I haven't seen more of the French police/GIGN/etc with FAMAS... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vlad G 345 Posted January 10, 2015 Yeah I'm surprised I haven't seen more of the French police/GIGN/etc with FAMAS... Why? It is an old gun they never really loved. It needs special ammo, it hasn't really been upgraded in a long time (even if new versions were made, the French army didn't buy them) and it is basically an evolutionary dead end. I'm not at all surprised you don't see it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,878 Posted January 10, 2015 Special ammo? I thought it fires 5.56... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T Bill 649 Posted January 10, 2015 FAMAS does use 5.56. OK, OK update first generation does uses a specialized version of 5.56 only made in France, a steel cased round. Second generation should have been standard brass 5.56. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites