RobCo 16 Posted January 7, 2016 Hope everyone had good holidays, just a bit of an update on my additional handgun permit delays Gave the local PD my weekly call and they are still reviewing my application even after I completed all the steps on my end. It has been 5 months, 22 days Does anyone have any suggestions on how to proceed? The frustrating part is I've spoken to other gun owners and they have experienced 2-3 weeks at most. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJM981 924 Posted January 7, 2016 What town do you live in? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RobCo 16 Posted January 7, 2016 What town do you live in? Plainfield Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob0115 1,107 Posted January 7, 2016 Did you ask the why the delay? You can innocently say I thought it was supposed to be done in 30 days? Is there something I haven't provided (even though you know the answer)? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RobCo 16 Posted January 7, 2016 Did you ask the why the delay? You can innocently say I thought it was supposed to be done in 30 days? Is there something I haven't provided (even though you know the answer)? The first delay was they were not setup for the online background check system. That was only completed less than a month ago. Now the reasoning is they are way way way behind due to the increase in requests. And when I asked to speak to the Capt, I was refused. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jackandjill 683 Posted January 7, 2016 Video Record and hand it over to NJ2AS. There is a separate thread on it. Oh, write to Gov. Christie and copy the Mayor and Chief. Mention the fact that you were refused to talk to Chief. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sig226GuyNJ 128 Posted January 7, 2016 Video Record and hand it over to NJ2AS. There is a separate thread on it. Oh, write to Gov. Christie and copy the Mayor and Chief. Mention the fact that you were refused to talk to Chief. X's 2, or call them and record the call. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RobCo 16 Posted January 7, 2016 Thanks everyone. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PD2K 115 Posted January 7, 2016 Hope everyone had good holidays, just a bit of an update on my additional handgun permit delays Gave the local PD my weekly call and they are still reviewing my application even after I completed all the steps on my end. It has been 5 months, 22 days Does anyone have any suggestions on how to proceed? The frustrating part is I've spoken to other gun owners and they have experienced 2-3 weeks at most. Contact ANJRPC's Strikeforce: http://www.anjrpc.org/?page=A_Strikeforce Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1563621 388 Posted January 7, 2016 Email or letter the mayor. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Luso 6 Posted January 8, 2016 Forget ANJRPC. They will just congratulate Christie and say NJ is in great shape I am the person making the videos of everyone's delays for nj2as. We have several more we are working on releasing PM me and i will embarrass your police department. You have to record yourself going in and ask again why it's being delayed several months, then again ask to speak to the chief and record them refusing. If you had recorded what you just described, I'd have your permit in your hands right now Go record them, just repeat the same exact questions, and then transfer the video over google drive to me. We are not revealing anyone's identity's/ names. Please follow up with me and I will help you to the best of my ability. You'll have your permit days after we release it to our thousands of members and hundreds of media contacts nationwidE. Nj2as is actually being cited in the NH statehouse tomorrow and Alexander is making an appearance there to highlight these issues Nothing is as effective at getting results than these videos Sincerely, get it done and reach out to me Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RobCo 16 Posted January 8, 2016 Thanks Luso, I've seen your videos and see what I can do to help out...might be tough though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jackandjill 683 Posted January 8, 2016 There is a recent thread about how one guy got it within couple of days of writing Gov. YMMV. You may already know that NJ is one party (you) consent to record. So law is on your side, especially when a Chief who gets paid by YOUR tax dollars refuses to meet you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Luso 6 Posted January 8, 2016 Thanks Luso, I've seen your videos and see what I can do to help out...might be tough though. It's really quite easy- you just go in and literally repeat what you already have felt comfortable saying to them. It may seem weird but it's what's necessary to document their abuse, and until we document it, it doesn't exist and no one believes you. But no one can argue with video there is nothing illegal about it. You are being recorded without your consent in every police station. As mentioned by another sharp poster above, NJ is 1 party consent. As long as you know the camera in your pocket is running, it's OK Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PD2K 115 Posted January 8, 2016 Forget ANJRPC. They will just congratulate Christie and say NJ is in great shape I am the person making the videos of everyone's delays for nj2as. We have several more we are working on releasing PM me and i will embarrass your police department. You have to record yourself going in and ask again why it's being delayed several months, then again ask to speak to the chief and record them refusing. If you had recorded what you just described, I'd have your permit in your hands right now Go record them, just repeat the same exact questions, and then transfer the video over google drive to me. We are not revealing anyone's identity's/ names. Please follow up with me and I will help you to the best of my ability. You'll have your permit days after we release it to our thousands of members and hundreds of media contacts nationwidE. Nj2as is actually being cited in the NH statehouse tomorrow and Alexander is making an appearance there to highlight these issues Nothing is as effective at getting results than these videos Sincerely, get it done and reach out to me Agreed...the more videos that come out, the better. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RobCo 16 Posted February 8, 2016 Just a little bit of an update, I still have no received my permits. And we are going on 6 plus months now, and to add to the fun. I received a letter from the local PD that the Application Flow Sheet is missing. Now this will be the third time I've had to submit this form. Just fascinates how this is has become such an ordeal. However, I have been preparing a letter which will be going out this week. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikeyjones 88 Posted February 8, 2016 Just a little bit of an update, I still have no received my permits. And we are going on 6 plus months now, and to add to the fun. I received a letter from the local PD that the Application Flow Sheet is missing. Now this will be the third time I've had to submit this form. Just fascinates how this is has become such an ordeal. However, I have been preparing a letter which will be going out this week.What's a flow sheet? Sent from my ONE A2005 using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RobCo 16 Posted February 8, 2016 Some meaningless form my local PD added on. A form that is not required by the NJ State PD. From what I've heard other municipalities have added other items as well. But, I submitted this twice already. Just another delay Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PD2K 115 Posted February 8, 2016 - EDIT - Answered above Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikeyjones 88 Posted February 8, 2016 Some meaningless form my local PD added on. A form that is not required by the NJ State PD. From what I've heard other municipalities have added other items as well. But, I submitted this twice already. Just another delayThat's what I figured. Never had one of those. Sent from my ONE A2005 using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The brew guy 22 Posted February 12, 2016 Some meaningless form my local PD added on. A form that is not required by the NJ State PD. From what I've heard other municipalities have added other items as well. But, I submitted this twice already. Just another delay Drop it off in person and have the camera running. The extra form is not legal and needs to be documented. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
n4p226r 105 Posted February 13, 2016 Some ILLEGAL. form my local PD added on. A form that is not required by the NJ State PD. From what I've heard other municipalities have added other items as well. But, I submitted this twice already. Just another delay Fixed that first sentence for you. What they are doing is illegal. You have two choices, bend over and take it or pay up and refuse to fill out the form and sue. You will most likely win. I agree, this is one of those times where video taping it and sending it to NJ2AS would be great Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RobCo 16 Posted February 13, 2016 Fixed that first sentence for you. What they are doing is illegal. You have two choices, bend over and take it or pay up and refuse to fill out the form and sue. You will most likely win. I agree, this is one of those times where video taping it and sending it to NJ2AS would be great You are absolutely correct, these additional requirements are illegal. But the local municipalities manage to get away with it with no repurcussions. My plan now is to send out some certified letters documenting this experience to officials in my town. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK90 3,573 Posted February 13, 2016 ..ut the local municipalities manage to get away with it with no repurcussions.... Because? Wait for it ...... 99% of victims do nothing, except bitch about it on gun forums. Sent from an undisclosed location via Tapatalk. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RobCo 16 Posted February 13, 2016 This is true and my goal here was just to let everyone know what goes on here in the "People's Republic of NJ" when it comes to our gun rights. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JackDaWack 2,895 Posted February 13, 2016 Your not telling us anything new. lol. The only thing your going to get here is advice on how to stop the abusive powers. The rest is in ur hands. We hear enough stories about this, your just a piece of paper in a stack 2 feet tall. Sooo, step up and help out your fellow neighbors and put plainfeild on the map for illegal infringement of the 2@ The fact is only a resident can stand up and expose their town, no one else can do it for you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RobCo 16 Posted February 13, 2016 That is what I am working on. I will let you all know the result of my next step thanks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RobCo 16 Posted February 24, 2016 After 8 months of waiting, numerous phone calls and the letters that finally helped resolve the issue. I have finally obtained my permits. Advice to anyone running into delays, just stay on it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted February 24, 2016 After 8 months of waiting, numerous phone calls and the letters that finally helped resolve the issue. I have finally obtained my permits. Advice to anyone running into delays, just stay on it I'd say congrats, but what you went through is seriously bullshit! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jm1827 284 Posted February 24, 2016 After 8 months of waiting, numerous phone calls and the letters that finally helped resolve the issue. I have finally obtained my permits. Advice to anyone running into delays, just stay on it I would highly advise you to submit for more permits now so that in 8 months you can buy another gun! And I feel for you, I am on 3 months now myself. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites