Sniper 6,372 Posted March 26, 2020 50 minutes ago, Kevin125 said: Using that same logic... few die of covid-19. They die of.... Cancer, COPD, asthma, diabetes, heart disease. Correct? Look at the NYC numbers: ...."Only 8% of the cases of coronavirus in New York City are from people above 75, according to the city’s health department. However, 52% of the city’s 199 total deaths were people older than 75. 95% of the deaths were people who had underlying conditions. In New York state, where there are now more confirmed coronavirus cases than in France or South Korea, nearly 54% of hospitalized coronavirus patients were between 18 and 49, Gov. Andrew Cuomo, a Democrat, said. Another piece of the puzzle: In the U.S., 18.5% (13.7 million) people between the ages of two and 19 are obese according to the CDC. That figure rises to 42.7% for all adults. When an obese person has difficulty breathing, their lungs won’t expand as much as a healthy person’s lungs, Poland said. https://www.marketwatch.com/story/by-far-the-worst-virus-i-have-ever-endured-olympic-gold-medalist-cameron-van-der-burgh-31-on-contracting-the-coronavirus-2020-03-24?mod=home-page Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1LtCAP 4,263 Posted March 26, 2020 so here's my questions. how is this more contagious than previous outbreaks. considering it can be transmitted through breath, cough/sneeze, touch, surfaces? the h1nh is transmitted the same way, is it not? are most virus's not transmitted the same way? i see many(not here unless i missed it) comparing trump admin response to 44 admin response for the h1n1. does anyone know that the outbreak in 09 was the second outbreak of that? so they had a clue. yet.......they dorked it. anyway, i'm just trying to figure out how this is anything more than a government created crisis. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Malsua 1,422 Posted March 26, 2020 10 hours ago, PeteF said: You mean like the guy that died from corona, because he had 2 heart attacks while being treated? Or the 85 yo with emphasyma . Yep another corona death. This 48 year old nurse died from CV. https://nypost.com/2020/03/25/worker-at-nyc-hospital-where-nurses-wear-trash-bags-as-protection-dies-from-coronavirus/ Probably got a big fat dose of it from a patient. Not obese, no idea if he had other issues. I guess time will tell if the mortality rate is flat or the same. Seems NY has a bit of a crisis brewing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1LtCAP 4,263 Posted March 26, 2020 the entire country has a crisis brewing. i still truly think it is govt created. not the virus. the crisis. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Malsua 1,422 Posted March 26, 2020 3 minutes ago, 1LtCAP said: the entire country has a crisis brewing. i still truly think it is govt created. not the virus. the crisis. Didn't you hear? Uncle Fed will be dropping money from Helicopters soon. We're all saved. Just think of the bonuses our corporate leaders are going to get. Isn't that so great for them? I mean, they will surely push the federal bounty out to all the needy. Heck they are probably loading their Luxury SUVs right now to go feed the hungry. The yacht business will be booming in no time! Oh happy days! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot 358 Posted March 26, 2020 Hey, what all guns you gonna buy with your $1,200 check? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1LtCAP 4,263 Posted March 26, 2020 like i said...crisis brewing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CMJeepster 2,778 Posted March 26, 2020 12 minutes ago, WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot said: Hey, what all guns you gonna buy with your $1,200 check? I don't qualify. 1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1LtCAP 4,263 Posted March 26, 2020 doubtful i qualify. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Malsua 1,422 Posted March 26, 2020 12 minutes ago, WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot said: Hey, what all guns you gonna buy with your $1,200 check? I don't qualify but my wife does, so maybe I'll get something for both of us. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fishnut 2,358 Posted March 26, 2020 20 minutes ago, WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot said: Hey, what all guns you gonna buy with your $1,200 check? Toilet paper...... 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scorpio64 5,155 Posted March 26, 2020 An official Red Ryder carbine action 200 shot range model air rifle with a compass stock 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handyman 5,682 Posted March 26, 2020 24 minutes ago, Scorpio64 said: An official Red Ryder carbine action 200 shot range model air rifle with a compass stock Are you crazy? You'll shoot your eye out. 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mrs. Peel 7,157 Posted March 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Malsua said: This 48 year old nurse died from CV. https://nypost.com/2020/03/25/worker-at-nyc-hospital-where-nurses-wear-trash-bags-as-protection-dies-from-coronavirus/ Probably got a big fat dose of it from a patient. Not obese, no idea if he had other issues. I guess time will tell if the mortality rate is flat or the same. Seems NY has a bit of a crisis brewing. In that article, a relative of the young man said he was generally healthy but suffered from "severe asthma"... which, of course, would be a real risk factor with COVID-19. The article also mentioned that the hospital has had equipment shortages for the past year, so if if was poorly run during normal times, it's of no surprise they ran into issues now.. Neither of those facts, of course, will dull the grief of this man's family and friends... and I understand that. It's a terrible loss! But, those facts do provide a fuller picture of what happened. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PeteF 1,044 Posted March 26, 2020 1 hour ago, CMJeepster said: I don't qualify. You only qualify to pay for everyone elses. 1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot 358 Posted March 26, 2020 54 minutes ago, Scorpio64 said: An official Red Ryder carbine action 200 shot range model air rifle with a compass stock Hope that is NJ Legal and you have the necessary FID and permits. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scorpio64 5,155 Posted March 26, 2020 1 hour ago, WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot said: Hope that is NJ Legal and you have the necessary FID and permits. Yanno... You are right. I think I'll put it towards a thermal optic instead. Less paperwork. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CMJeepster 2,778 Posted March 26, 2020 18 minutes ago, PeteF said: You only qualify to pay for everyone elses. That's been the story of my life... 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sniper 6,372 Posted March 26, 2020 36 minutes ago, PeteF said: You only qualify to pay for everyone elses. There you go. Facts!! I don't qualify either. Go figure, the people who DON'T qualify are actually the same people that pay the majority of the federal taxes in the country, while the people who will get a windfall in these checks, pay nothing. Isn't Socialism wonderful? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10X 3,296 Posted March 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Scorpio64 said: An official Red Ryder carbine action 200 shot range model air rifle with a compass stock You can't. NJ isn't processing NICS requests, and the idiots in Trenton believe that rifle is indistinguishable from a Barrett .50. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sniper 6,372 Posted March 26, 2020 19 minutes ago, CMJeepster said: That's been the story of my life... Me too... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sniper 6,372 Posted March 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Mrs. Peel said: In that article, a relative of the young man said he was generally healthy but suffered from "severe asthma"... which, of course, would be a real risk factor with COVID-19. Notice how they bury that fact way down in the article, hoping people will miss it, and they rather build on the sensationalism and emotions of the readers instead. I read a report yesterday that like 98% of the people who have died in NYC had pre-existing conditions, proving again, the healthy people AREN'T dying from it!! OPEN THE COUNTRY BACK UP NOW!!!!!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WP22 1,558 Posted March 26, 2020 Anyway BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMM Quote Epidemiologist Behind Highly-Cited Coronavirus Model Admits He Was Wrong, Drastically Revises Model https://www.dailywire.com/news/epidemiologist-behind-highly-cited-coronavirus-model-admits-he-was-wrong-drastically-revises-model Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mrs. Peel 7,157 Posted March 26, 2020 7 minutes ago, WP22 said: Anyway BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMM Wow. Just wow! Is there still time to stop that stimulus package --- particularly all of it's pork? If it turns out that estimates of this pandemic get DRASTICALLY reduced... the press is going to be even less popular than it already is. Deservedly so! They clung to the worst predictions and ignored the growing field of objectors. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1LtCAP 4,263 Posted March 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Scorpio64 said: Yanno... You are right. I think I'll put it towards a thermal optic instead. Less paperwork. i like this idea. i've been getting sponsored ads on farcebook for the atn thermals..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sniper 6,372 Posted March 26, 2020 9 minutes ago, Mrs. Peel said: If it turns out that estimates of this pandemic get DRASTICALLY reduced... the press is going to be even less popular than it already is. It won't turn out, it actually is reduced, the facts will prove it out. From that article: ..."Professor Gupta led a team of researchers at Oxford in a modeling study which suggests that the virus has been invisibly spreading for at least a month earlier than suspected, concluding that as many as half of the people in the United Kingdom have already been infected by COVID-19. If her model is accurate, fewer than one in a thousand who’ve been infected with COVID-19 become sick enough to need hospitalization, leaving the vast majority with mild cases or free of symptoms. What we will see, when the dust settles, is that Covid was no worse than the seasonal flu. And the flu actually has a vaccine and tens of thousands still die. There have been tens of thousands that got Covid, and never knew it. I'll go back and reference the Diamond Princess, which was a good clinical trial. HALF of the people who tested positive had NO symptoms, and only 20% actually caught it on the ship, even when being in the close confines of a cruise ship. There's going to be a LOT of pissed off business people and others who got fired, that realize they got shut down because of the flu.. Diamond Princess data. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted March 26, 2020 26 minutes ago, 1LtCAP said: i like this idea. i've been getting sponsored ads on farcebook for the atn thermals..... Wait for there clip on to come out 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scorpio64 5,155 Posted March 26, 2020 2 hours ago, Mrs. Peel said: the press is going to be even less popular than it already is. Deservedly so! My wife is a medical technologist, she's beside herself with all of the misinformation/bad information being propagated by the media. And she's a freak'n liberal.... well, liberalish, I've substantially turned her around in the last 3 years. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CAL. .30 M1 2,101 Posted March 26, 2020 5 hours ago, Malsua said: This 48 year old nurse died from CV. https://nypost.com/2020/03/25/worker-at-nyc-hospital-where-nurses-wear-trash-bags-as-protection-dies-from-coronavirus/ Probably got a big fat dose of it from a patient. Not obese, no idea if he had other issues. I guess time will tell if the mortality rate is flat or the same. Seems NY has a bit of a crisis brewing. He had severe asthma....thats the report.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PeteF 1,044 Posted March 26, 2020 5 hours ago, Sniper said: There you go. Facts!! I don't qualify either. Go figure, the people who DON'T qualify are actually the same people that pay the majority of the federal taxes in the country, while the people who will get a windfall in these checks, pay nothing. Isn't Socialism wonderful? Funny (no not really) how those that lose the most get the least back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites