SYakoban 4 Posted March 22 I came upon this article about the 5,000% increase in NJ concealed carry permits since the Supreme Court decision: https://www.njspotlightnews.org/2024/03/nj-concealed-handgun-permits-soared-after-bruen-ruling-scotus-second-amendment/ It talks about the soaring increase in carry permits. It's (to no surprise) seriously implying that carry permits are out of control. Before seeing this, I learned that there are now 33,000 permits. I could not believe it was that few in a state of 9M+. So this article is fear mongering with its 5,000% bullshit. It's a total fear manipulation. Also, follow this link if you want to learn town by town where the permits are: https://public.tableau.com/app/profile/nj.office.of.justice.data/viz/PermittoCarryDashboard/Intro Fight the bullshit! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mrs. Peel 7,164 Posted March 22 Yeah, my reaction was... holy cow! I gotta apply SOON... do my part to help pump those numbers up. 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,670 Posted March 22 Hmmmm… in 2023 shootings in NJ dropped below 1000 - that’s around a 30% decrease… I wonder if there is a correlation. 5 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
45Doll 5,883 Posted March 22 1 hour ago, High Exposure said: Hmmmm… in 2023 shootings in NJ dropped below 1000 - that’s around a 30% decrease… I wonder if there a correlation. Da yah think? LOL So much for Murphy's and Platkin's "blood in the streets if we allow carry permits." Permits up 5,000%, shootings down 30%. Let's go for 100,000 permits! Thanks for noting that @High Exposure 1 hour ago, Mrs. Peel said: Yeah, my reaction was... holy cow! I gotta apply SOON... do my part to help pump those numbers up. I may have to join you there Emma! 1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1LtCAP 4,264 Posted March 22 1 hour ago, High Exposure said: Hmmmm… in 2023 shootings in NJ dropped below 1000 - that’s around a 30% decrease… I wonder if there a correlation. it was the first time since 09, wasn't it? i'd venture correlation and causation. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GRIZ 3,369 Posted March 22 1 hour ago, High Exposure said: Hmmmm… in 2023 shootings in NJ dropped below 1000 - that’s around a 30% decrease… I wonder if there a correlation. Most likely. Nobody.knows.whos.armed and.whos.not. Polite society. 1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1LtCAP 4,264 Posted March 22 and yea.....either they're not letting us see how many permits were REALLY issued, or we gotta pump up those numbers. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vdep217 64 Posted March 22 I belive his report is going to work for us. 33000 permits no issues with ccw holders and the correlation of shootings violent crime dropping 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scorpio64 5,171 Posted March 22 1 hour ago, High Exposure said: Assuming this chart is cumulative in some fashion, that's roughly one CCW per 300 people. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Displaced Texan 11,765 Posted March 22 But but but all the BLOOD running in the STREETS! It’ll be like the Wild West! 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voyager9 3,439 Posted March 23 51 minutes ago, Vdep217 said: I belive his report is going to work for us. 33000 permits no issues with ccw holders and the correlation of shootings violent crime dropping The state admitted in court that they had no data showing CCW holders commit more crimes. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyB 4,328 Posted March 23 1 hour ago, Displaced Texan said: It’ll be like the Wild West! Quote by Bob Viden! I guess he was wrong! 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,670 Posted March 23 1 hour ago, JohnnyB said: Quote by Bob Viden! I guess he was wrong! Here’s a companion video to that NJ Spotlight News article in the OP. Interesting stuff… www.pbs D O T org/video/nj-spotlight-news-marxh-19-2024-1710862630/ It’s about 25 minutes long (I broke the link so it doesn’t track back here. Cut and paste into your browser and add a https:// in the front and replace the D O T with a . ) 3 hours ago, voyager9 said: The state admitted in court that they had no data showing CCW holders commit more crimes. Skip to 14:25 to hear Col Callahan speak on this a bit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
father-of-three 243 Posted March 23 12 hours ago, High Exposure said: Yes, it's just a guess on my part, but the 2020 and 2021 numbers are probably mostly, if not all, safe truck employees. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Displaced Texan 11,765 Posted March 23 Guess none of those doom and gloom predictions came true. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voyager9 3,439 Posted March 23 1 hour ago, Displaced Texan said: Guess none of those doom and gloom predictions came true. They don’t need them to come true. They just need to make it sound like they could and let the media and sheep slurp it up. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Displaced Texan 11,765 Posted March 23 6 minutes ago, voyager9 said: They don’t need them to come true. They just need to make it sound like they could and let the media and sheep slurp it up. You’re right about that…FACTS mean nothing to them. It’s all about the narrative. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
45Doll 5,883 Posted March 23 1 hour ago, Scorpio64 said: ".... and used one of the approved terms: RACIST!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JimB1 555 Posted March 23 Remember that it took over 6 months for NJ to get their permit requirements finalized and classes had to be changed and approved so last year a large number of people were also waiting for that to all get ironed out. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grapeshot 301 Posted March 25 On 3/23/2024 at 1:27 PM, JimB1 said: Remember that it took over 6 months for NJ to get their permit requirements finalized and classes had to be changed and approved so last year a large number of people were also waiting for that to all get ironed out. Including me. Now that the dust has settled I'll be going for mine this year. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bklynracer 1,266 Posted March 27 Just saw this on yahoo, probably same info, just surprised yahoo posted it. https://www.yahoo.com/news/nj-gun-permits-skyrocketing-towns-092203887.html 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CMJeepster 2,780 Posted March 28 Are we all dead yet? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
father-of-three 243 Posted March 28 6 hours ago, CMJeepster said: Are we all dead yet? Yeah... blood running through the streets like the prophesied Valley of Megiddo...or so the New Jersey government wants you to beleve... 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
45Doll 5,883 Posted March 31 Wrong thread. Moved. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites