wink-_-wink 1 Posted September 16, 2014 So I read this article on NJ.com about a bill to force more gun buyback programs! The bill A2895 would require 9 per year! "One program in each region would be hosted in an urban area with a high crime rate." This part makes me kind of chuckle. Like do they think the gang bangers are going to just be like hmmm let me turn in my piece for a little bi of money? Only in Jersey! http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2014/09/nj_assembly_passes_bill_to_create_statewide_gun_buyback_program.html#incart_river Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
njJoniGuy 2,131 Posted September 16, 2014 With Mainor and Greenwald among the bill's primary sponsors, you know what this bill is about, right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
revenger 473 Posted September 16, 2014 They are probably creating this law to set up an infrastructure for future confiscation. we will probably be required to turn in any gun and freedom related books at the same time so the legislature can burn them in a ceremony at the collection points. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlDente67 563 Posted September 16, 2014 I don't know what criteria they use to establish the payout amount. Anyone? I had a few old busted pistols that were found in a sock drawer of someone in the family who died. I had them appraised and they turned out to be more or less worthless and not worth getting repaired. They suggested I wait until the next buyback and cash in there. So i was wondering if I turned them in, would they set the payout according to functionality or just a flat fee per gun? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RUTGERS95 890 Posted September 16, 2014 we should organize and sit across from it with a sign saying we will buy! I'm in to do this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arbelest 29 Posted September 16, 2014 I agree, something nice usually winds up at these things. I wouldn't mind adding to the collection. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DirtyDigz 1,812 Posted September 16, 2014 we should organize and sit across from it with a sign saying we will buy! I'm in to do this I've thought about this, but NJ's "illegal everywhere unless exempted" legal structure makes this risky for the seller. If the seller goes straight to the buyback location, then they're supposedly immune to illegal possession. However if they deviate to meet with you (a potential buyer), likely outside the grounds of the buyback location since the police would probably "discourage" any sellers from "loitering" at the buyback point, then there's a potential for arrest charges: - handgun: illegal possession outside of exempted location or going directly to/from, unless the seller has a CCW (and you know what the chances of that are). - long gun - same as with handgun, unless the seller has a FID. In that particular case (Seller has a FID, and presumably the buyer does as well), you might be able to transact legally. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
echo five foxtrot 1 Posted September 16, 2014 I "heard" that NJ Attorney General has not done any more buys backs because of the pending legislation. So if this passes will they go from using the forfeiture funds to tax dollars? Has anyone seen or participated in the NYC Guns for Cash program? It looks like they have a standing buy back and several precincts, 24 / 7. $100 for any handgun http://www1.nyc.gov/nyc-resources/service/1336/cash-for-guns-program Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ogfarmer 138 Posted September 16, 2014 I don't know what criteria they use to establish the payout amount. Anyone? I had a few old busted pistols that were found in a sock drawer of someone in the family who died. I had them appraised and they turned out to be more or less worthless and not worth getting repaired. They suggested I wait until the next buyback and cash in there. So i was wondering if I turned them in, would they set the payout according to functionality or just a flat fee per gun? they pay a flat rate for different types, functionality hasn't played a part in last ones Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NickySantoro 211 Posted September 16, 2014 Possibly a good opportunity to pick up a quality gun for a bargain, but watch some Barney Fife half wit try to arrest you on some BS charge. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
usnmars 136 Posted September 16, 2014 Cash for clunkers..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bellasdaddy 31 Posted September 16, 2014 I don't know what criteria they use to establish the payout amount. Anyone? I had a few old busted pistols that were found in a sock drawer of someone in the family who died. I had them appraised and they turned out to be more or less worthless and not worth getting repaired. They suggested I wait until the next buyback and cash in there. So i was wondering if I turned them in, would they set the payout according to functionality or just a flat fee per gun? They cannot fire it there so they will assume it is functional. They would charge you as if it was functional if you were walking or driving around with it! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cemeterys Gun Blob 165 Posted September 17, 2014 With Mainor and Greenwald among the bill's primary sponsors, you know what this bill is about, right? It's about what? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kman 56 Posted September 17, 2014 I object to the label "buyback". It implies something that is not the case. "Buyback" implies that the government owned the gun in the first place, and wants it back. That is false. Aside from military surplus guns (a very small proportion of privately owned firearms), the government never owned these guns in the first place. Most guns were built for, and initially sold to, the ordinary citizen, and were intended for the ordinary citizen to own. So these are simply gun buys, not gun "buybacks". To call it a "buyback" essentially implies that the government was the rightful owner of these firearms in the first place, and that it is justified in recovering possession of these guns, which is completely false. The government never had any property interest in these guns at all. Always be on guard when those who advocate gun bans seek to bend language and set the vocabulary to serve their purposes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gunguy1960 2 Posted September 17, 2014 Just another way to redistribute your wealth. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
njJoniGuy 2,131 Posted September 17, 2014 It's about what? It's about disarming the law-abiding and giving the law-breakers a profitable way to dispose of weapons with bodies on them. And all at State (read taxpayer) expense. What noble fellows Mainor and Greenwald must be Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
glockamole 0 Posted September 17, 2014 Criminals don't turn in guns at these things. Only thing I think they do is probably make the criminals do more burglaries to find guns to cash in. So basically the criminals are getting paid to confiscate our guns. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
intercooler 41 Posted September 17, 2014 Great way to destroy evidence Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fslater 62 Posted September 27, 2014 You need a FID and the law for a BB Gun is the same as for any long gun...... Think They'd gimme a hundred bucks for my 40 year old broken Daisey? LOL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ogfarmer 138 Posted September 27, 2014 a lot of them say bb guns are exempt from cash Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gunguy1960 2 Posted October 8, 2014 While their in the neighborhood how about cash for vasectomies? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oneshot 45 Posted October 8, 2014 If they come take mine they are going to be grabbing hot barrels Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sota 1,191 Posted October 8, 2014 they have signs up for that in the police station. burns my britches. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mipafox 438 Posted October 9, 2014 He's an idiot. NJ just bans guns, no compensation necessary. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrSurfboard 1 Posted October 9, 2014 Great way to destroy evidence They are checked for use in any crime before destroying them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrSurfboard 1 Posted October 9, 2014 Possibly a good opportunity to pick up a quality gun for a bargain, but watch some Barney Fife half wit try to arrest you on some BS charge. Not really, most of the weapons turned in are rusty junk. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maintenanceguy 510 Posted October 9, 2014 What happens if someone shows up with a firearm and rejects the cash offer? Will they be allowed to leave or will they be arrested for tranporting out of the exemptions if they try to leave and drive their gun back home? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mipafox 438 Posted October 9, 2014 What happens if someone shows up with a firearm and rejects the cash offer? Will they be allowed to leave or will they be arrested for tranporting out of the exemptions if they try to leave and drive their gun back home? You don't transport out of the exemptions in jersey. You possess out of the exemptions. Possession is illegal by default. Jersey simply allows you an exception to possess while transporting just like they allow an exception to have a gun in your home, provided you acquired that gun in a way you can prove to NJ was legal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PeteF 1,044 Posted October 9, 2014 They are checked for use in any crime before destroying them. And what do they do with them? Put them in a evidence locker marked with the name of the area. Great. Try to establish a chain of possession back to a crime. Instant disposal and cash to boot, what could be better. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wink-_-wink 1 Posted October 11, 2014 could we stand outside and offer more money for some of these guns while having the appropriate paperwork and id? like not on police property lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites