Sniper 6,372 Posted August 16, 2019 They are trying, as hard as they can, and after the last few shootings, more Congressmen are signing on. Emotions are on their side. Be prepared... ...."And nearly 200 House Democrats have now signed on to legislation — authored by Rep. David Cicilline (D-R.I.), the head of Democrats’ messaging operation — banning semi-automatic firearms and large-capacity magazines. With 198 co-sponsors, the bill is just 20 votes shy of the number needed to push it through the lower chamber. Five Democrats added their names to Cicilline’s Assault Weapons Ban of 2019 in the immediate aftermath of the back-to-back massacres in El Paso, Texas, and Dayton, Ohio, that left a combined 32 dead and dozens more injured. Two more got on board on Tuesday: Rep. Joaquin Castro (D-Texas), the brother of Democratic presidential hopeful Julián Castro, and Rep. Cindy Axne (D-Iowa), who unseated GOP Rep. David Young last fall. https://thehill.com/homenews/house/457323-assault-weapons-ban-picks-up-steam-in-congress Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1LtCAP 4,263 Posted August 17, 2019 honestly, i'm a little worried about this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mrs. Peel 7,157 Posted August 17, 2019 32 minutes ago, 1LtCAP said: honestly, i'm a little worried about this. Call, email or write to the White House, every single day. That's what every gun owner in this country should start doing. That's what I intend to do starting Monday morning... because I'm worried about this, too. And I don't need to wait for one of the 2A orgs to direct me to do the obvious... it's clearly time to make our voices heard. White House Contact Info: https://www.whitehouse.gov/get-involved/write-or-call/ (details from that link shown below...) PHONE NUMBERS Comments: 202-456-1111 Switchboard: 202-456-1414 Write a letter to the President Here are a few simple things you can do to make sure your message gets to the White House as quickly as possible. If possible, email us! This is the fastest way to get your message to President Trump. If you write a letter, please consider typing it on an 8 1/2 by 11 inch sheet of paper. If you hand-write your letter, please consider using pen and writing as neatly as possible. Please include your return address on your letter as well as your envelope. If you have an email address, please consider including that as well. And finally, be sure to include the full address of the White House to make sure your message gets to us as quickly and directly as possible: The White House 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW Washington, DC 20500 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
45Doll 5,877 Posted August 17, 2019 Here are two articles today on Trump's 'commitment' to the 2nd Amendment. The first from National Review, and the second from Ammoland. The NR article cautions him against following in the footsteps of G. H. W. Bush, along with a history lesson reminding us how far out of 2A bounds that 'Republican' went. And what it cost him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin125 4,772 Posted August 18, 2019 Chris Smith (R-NJ) will vote with the dems. So will Brian Fitzpatrick (R-PA). But I don’t think it will get past the senate. Even if it did, it would not be a veto proof majority. If Trump maintained the stiffness in his spine....which is no way a given....he could veto a ban with good political cover. Plus...I think he knows that if he signs an assault weapon ban, he is gone in 2020. 1 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sniper 6,372 Posted August 18, 2019 Here's the link to the actual bill. They specifically spell out models. There is also a list of exempt rifles. They also have semi auto pistols listed, take a close look at the qualifications/models for ban, https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/1296/text Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyB 4,325 Posted August 18, 2019 Basically bans the majority of all semi auto rifles. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sniper 6,372 Posted August 18, 2019 8 minutes ago, JohnnyB said: Basically bans the majority of all pistols including the 1911s! Yep, did you see this one too? (D) A semiautomatic pistol that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and any one of the following: “(i) A threaded barrel. So, any pistol that you can order a threaded barrel for, is also banned. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sniper 6,372 Posted August 18, 2019 And this, The term ‘semiautomatic assault weapon’ means any of the following, regardless of country of manufacture or caliber of ammunition accepted: “(A) A semiautomatic rifle that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and any one of the following: “(i) A pistol grip. So, that would be ANY semi-auto with a pistol grip, any caliber... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
njJoniGuy 2,131 Posted August 18, 2019 As far as I am concerned, these 200 Democrats and 1 Republican (Pete King of NY): Mr. Cicilline, Ms. Adams, Mr. Aguilar, Ms. Barragán, Ms. Bass, Mrs. Beatty, Mr. Bera, Mr. Beyer, Mr. Blumenauer, Ms. Blunt Rochester, Ms. Bonamici, Mr. Brendan F. Boyle of Pennsylvania, Mr. Brown of Maryland, Ms. Brownley of California, Mr. Butterfield, Mr. Carbajal, Mr. Cárdenas, Mr. Carson of Indiana, Mr. Cartwright, Mr. Casten of Illinois, Ms. Castor of Florida, Ms. Judy Chu of California, Mr. Cisneros, Ms. Clark of Massachusetts, Ms. Clarke of New York, Mr. Clay, Mr. Cohen, Mr. Connolly, Mr. Cooper, Mr.Correa, Mr. Courtney, Mrs. Craig, Mr. Crist, Mr. Crow, Mr. Cummings, Mr. Danny K. Davis of Illinois, Mrs. Davis of California, Ms. Dean, Ms. DeGette, Ms. DeLauro, Ms. DelBene, Mrs. Demings, Mr. DeSaulnier, Mr. Deutch, Mrs. Dingell, Mr. Doggett, Mr. Michael F. Doyle of Pennsylvania, Ms. Escobar, Ms. Eshoo, Mr. Engel, Ms. Frankel, Mr. Foster, Ms.Fudge, Ms. Gabbard, Mr. Gallego, Mr. Garamendi, Mr. García of Illinois, Mr. Gomez, Mr. Green of Texas, Mr. Grijalva, Ms. Haaland, Mr. Hastings, Mrs. Hayes, Mr. Heck, Mr.Higgins of New York, Mr. Himes, Mr. Horsford, Ms. Houlahan, Mr. Hoyer, Mr. Huffman, Ms. Jackson Lee, Ms. Jayapal, Mr. Jeffries, Ms. Johnson of Texas, Mr. Johnson of Georgia, Ms. Kaptur, Mr. Keating, Ms. Kelly of Illinois, Mr. Kennedy, Mr. Khanna, Mr. Kildee, Mr. Kilmer, Mrs. Kirkpatrick, Mr. Krishnamoorthi, Ms. Kuster of New Hampshire, Mr.Langevin, Mr. Larson of Connecticut, Mrs. Lawrence, Mr. Lawson of Florida, Ms. Lee of California, Mr. Levin of Michigan, Mr. Ted Lieu of California, Mr. Lewis, Mr. Lipinski, Ms.Lofgren, Mr. Lowenthal, Mrs. Lowey, Mr. Luján, Mr. Lynch, Mrs. McBath, Ms. McCollum, Mr. McEachin, Mr. McGovern, Mr. McNerney, Mr. Malinowski, Mrs. Carolyn B. Maloney of New York, Mr. Sean Patrick Maloney of New York, Ms. Matsui, Mr. Meeks, Ms. Meng, Ms. Moore, Mr. Morelle, Mr. Moulton, Ms. Mucarsel-Powell, Mrs. Murphy, Mr.Nadler, Mrs. Napolitano, Mr. Neal, Mr. Neguse, Ms. Norton, Mr. Norcross, Ms. Ocasio-Cortez, Ms. Omar, Mr. Pallone, Mr. Panetta, Mr. Pascrell, Mr. Payne, Mr. Perlmutter, Mr.Phillips, Ms. Pingree, Mr. Pocan, Ms. Pressley, Mr. Price of North Carolina, Mr. Quigley, Mr. Raskin, Miss Rice of New York, Mr. Richmond, Ms. Roybal-Allard, Mr. Rose of New York, Mr. Ruiz, Mr. Ruppersberger, Mr. Rush, Mr. Ryan, Mr. Sablan, Ms. Sánchez, Mr. Sarbanes, Ms. Scanlon, Ms. Schakowsky, Mr. Schiff, Mr. Schneider, Mr. Scott of Virginia, Mr.David Scott of Georgia, Mr. Serrano, Ms. Shalala, Mr. Sherman, Mr. Sires, Mr. Smith of Washington, Mr. Soto, Ms. Speier, Mr. Suozzi, Mr. Swalwell of California, Mr. Takano, Ms.Tlaib, Ms. Titus, Mr. Tonko, Mrs. Torres of California, Mrs. Trahan, Mr. Trone, Mr. Vargas, Ms. Velázquez, Ms. Wasserman Schultz, Mrs. Watson Coleman, Ms. Waters, Mr.Welch, Ms. Wexton, Ms. Wilson of Florida, Mr. Yarmuth, Mr. Clyburn, Mr. Case, Ms. Sherrill, Mr. Peters, Mr. Delgado, Mr. Visclosky, Mr. Costa, Mr. Espaillat, Ms. Garcia of Texas, Mr. Larsen of Washington, Mr. Rouda, Mr. Levin of California, Mr. Evans, and Mr. Loebsack can all go straight to Hell. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NJSigfan 218 Posted August 18, 2019 Haven’t read the proposed bill; will later today, but does the ban include existing weapons legally purchased? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyB 4,325 Posted August 18, 2019 25 minutes ago, NJSigfan said: Haven’t read the proposed bill; will later today, but does the ban include existing weapons legally purchased? Yes! It bans almost every semi auto in existence! I am not worried about it as long as Trump is in office. Also, it won't make it out of the Senate. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Underdog 1,593 Posted August 18, 2019 We have always had to be vigilant, but the buffer is eviscerating. A couple of generations of "progressive" education and unbridled purposeful immigration to change our American identity and this is what it has come to. Dependence on a tyrannical government is not a good thing and the deck is stacked as the government is stacked with traitors of the people. A major disruption in our daily lives could come easily and leave a vacuum for the organized and funded statists to march on. Even If the POTUS and the SCOTUS can slow it down, there is still an inevitability of the coming future that will be written as Trump won't be there forever, just as the opportunist Christy has left and the collectivist statists have taken over. Coming from this corrupt shithole of undemocracy (NJ) we are lacking a perspective of other areas of our nation that are at least a generation behind with the ramblings of unconstitutional gun control and their agenda to create a terrain in which the people CANNOT stand up for their freedom and to the aggressive and coordinate designs, propaganda, and machinations of those that would chose to rule without checks and balances. Under the current trajectory one of two things will happen, either a civil war OR a neutered and disarmed Slave State seems to be inevitable. In either one, this nation and its people will suffer and a brilliant rendition of a people seeking to live as free as possible by limiting the power of the government will fade. What amazes me is how people can blindly follow this ruling class and their media and the agenda being put on us without critical thinking and looking at the big picture and how slight changes have big affects in the future and what the decisions now hold for that future. 1 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJM981 924 Posted August 19, 2019 They will start with those and later have an epiphany that the real problem involves gangs and drug dealers. Then they'll go for the handguns. F them and the horses they rode in on. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
124gr9mm 859 Posted August 19, 2019 The list of guns that will be banned is pretty comprehensive. If it goes bang it's probably on the list... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CAL. .30 M1 2,101 Posted August 20, 2019 On 8/17/2019 at 11:38 PM, JohnnyB said: "A semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that has the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds" Basically bans the majority of all pistols including the 1911s! ..ummm what? The 1911 doesnt have a fixed magazine.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyB 4,325 Posted August 20, 2019 11 minutes ago, USRifle30Cal said: ..ummm what? The 1911 doesnt have a fixed magazine.... My bad! The 1911 will be in the next ban if they get this one. They don't want us to have ANY guns! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CAL. .30 M1 2,101 Posted August 20, 2019 11 minutes ago, JohnnyB said: My bad! The 1911 will be in the next ban if they get this one. They don't want us to have ANY guns! I agree it is a matter of time....they r grandfathering them all in this go around... Lets hope they go full retard and want confiscation...this country needs anpther reboot. And the split should happen 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sniper 6,372 Posted August 20, 2019 25 minutes ago, JohnnyB said: My bad! The 1911 will be in the next ban if they get this one. They don't want us to have ANY guns! Maybe they were referring to a 1911 revolver... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sniper 6,372 Posted August 20, 2019 One by one, they roll over.... Rep. Pete King is the first Republican to sign on to the assault weapons ban WASHINGTON — An assault weapons ban that Democratic leaders have been reluctant to advance despite strong support among their rank-and-file members in the House just got its first Republican backer — Long Island Rep. Pete King . King had been the lead sponsor of a bill improving background checks when Republicans controlled the House and was already one of a handful of Republicans backing that bill now. Some other Republicans who have not signed on but have expressed support for the ban include Florida Rep. Brian Mast, who came out in favor of a ban after the Parkland High School slaughter last year, and Ohio Rep. Mike Turner, who said he supports one after the massacre in his Dayton district. https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ny-pete-king-republican-assault-weapons-ban-trump-20190819-fnrwfheu3rgplbyo45no3q7soa-story.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Golf battery 1,223 Posted August 20, 2019 Just totally ridiculous. He must of drank the dem koolaid by accident Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CAL. .30 M1 2,101 Posted August 20, 2019 The narrative has 100%changed...... if you are not paying attention.... over the past 4 years or so.....when in the past it was evil black looking guns...now it has migrated to include all semi autos.... clever... shifting the narrative is what they do. I do not make the next statements lightly.... but at some point you just have to say no, even if the law passes due to whatever corrupt influences take place. The state of the union right now is just like nj under the christie admin.. false hope.... and look where we are now. The same will happen nationally...they haven called for outright confiscation ....yet.. You need to prepare to resist in whatever manner is needed to preserve freedom in the republic..and that might mean laying down ur life... are you prepared to do that? If you are not turn em in now.. because that is where this is heading..there is no 'commonsense' ground...there is no negotiating with those that see you as a threat to their power and control. There will eventually be a domestic war over this...many are going to die....but what is the cost of the price of freedom...? Normal good honest hard working people will be labeled domestic terrorists by the propagandists...they will be hunted and it will get messy. *YOU* - yes you, will be labeled targeted and be thrust into the mess, why cause you are a gun owner that didn't turn in your stuff... Dont think for a minute that what you think is a paltry some of ammo and guns, is not an arsenal to the talking heads...remember an arsenal has been categorized as a kabar a shottie a 38 and 1k rounds... They need YOU dead and gone like the old, so they can usher in their dystopian dreams... What are you prepared to do? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sniper 6,372 Posted August 20, 2019 3 hours ago, USRifle30Cal said: because that is where this is heading..there is no 'commonsense' ground...there is no negotiating with those that see you as a threat to their power and control. Correct. 3 hours ago, USRifle30Cal said: The same will happen nationally...they haven called for outright confiscation ....yet.. Yet... one or two more mass shootings and they will... 3 hours ago, USRifle30Cal said: What are you prepared to do? Based on what I've seen, here are the majority.... 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin125 4,772 Posted August 23, 2019 Need to make an example of Rep Pete King. Its just unfortunate that we aren’t voting for congress this fall. I’d rather not wait to see him lose to a dem. Same for Chris Smith. Who I expect will cave at some point. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fslater 62 Posted September 5, 2019 Can you spell 80% Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites