Cheflife15 455 Posted February 18, 2021 Long story short my fiance lent her brother her suv today and it was totalled. Any good tactics on getting a deal on a new suv? We're currently trying to buy a home and plan a wedding. Thiis couldnt have happened at a worse time. Any tips are welcome. I imagine she'll want another Honda suv or nissan suv. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grapeshot 301 Posted February 18, 2021 May I suggest looking for something that just came off lease? These vehicles typically have 25 - 35K miles on them, have service records, usually are certified, and come with a transferrable warranty. I purchased a Toyota Highlander last year with 30K miles for ~ $13 - 15K less than a new one would have cost. It was clean, looked new, and runs great. I tend to keep vehicles for ~ 150K miles and keep them serviced and garaged, so 30K miles is just starting to be broken in for me. 1 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,670 Posted February 18, 2021 8 hours ago, Cheflife15 said: Long story short my fiance lent her brother her suv today and it was totalled. Any good tactics on getting a deal on a new suv? We're currently trying to buy a home and plan a wedding. Thiis couldnt have happened at a worse time. Any tips are welcome. I imagine she'll want another Honda suv or nissan suv. If your in the process of obtaining a mortgage or closing on a house, you may want to wait on a new car or anything with a credit check and payments. I’d talk to your real estate agent or lender/bank before doing anything. 1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10X 3,306 Posted February 18, 2021 Depending on the circumstances of the accident, perhaps the brother should be on the hook for buying the replacement for the SUV. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JackDaWack 2,895 Posted February 18, 2021 Dealerships are not what they used to be, I can't beleive how many were willing to let a sale walk out the door over small negotiations. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheflife15 455 Posted February 18, 2021 40 minutes ago, High Exposure said: If your in the process of obtaining a mortgage or closing on a house, you may want to wait on a new car or anything with a credit chance and payments. I’d talk to your real estate agent or lender/bank before doing anything. Yeah this has me worried the most. We both have excellent credit and with our jobs, she's a nurse and im a chef, we need 2 cars. Unfortunately i dont know how much of a choice we have here. Ill have to reach out to my realtor and see how this effects us. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheflife15 455 Posted February 18, 2021 1 hour ago, 10X said: Depending on the circumstances of the accident, perhaps the brother should be on the hook for buying the replacement for the SUV. Accident wasnt his fault. A driver supposedly was speeding, lost control and turned his car around on 287. Her brother hit him as the other driver spun out. Im trying ti find info on "no fault" accidents here in nj. All these bs laws. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CMJeepster 2,780 Posted February 18, 2021 2 hours ago, Grapeshot said: May I suggest looking for something that just came off lease? These vehicles typically have 25 - 35K miles on them, have service records, usually are certified, and come with a transferrable warranty. I purchased a Toyota Highlander last year with 30K miles for ~ $13 - 15K less than a new one would have cost. It was clean, looked new, and runs great. I tend to keep vehicles for ~ 150K miles and keep them serviced and garaged, so 30K miles is just starting to be broken in for me. We did this type of things with 2 vehicles last year before Wu Flu hit. Got the "wrap warranty" to go with them. Well worth the extra couple of bucs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Malsua 1,422 Posted February 18, 2021 2 hours ago, Cheflife15 said: Long story short my fiance lent her brother her suv today and it was totalled. Any good tactics on getting a deal on a new suv? We're currently trying to buy a home and plan a wedding. Thiis couldnt have happened at a worse time. Any tips are welcome. I imagine she'll want another Honda suv or nissan suv. I'd look for a low mileage 18. Those area usually 3 year lease turn-ins and CPO. Honda, Toyota would be better than a Nissan. Nissan's as a rule have really shitty gas mileage. As to no fault, about all that matters is in the deductible. You may eventually get the other driver to pay for that, beyond there, it's all about whatever coverage is on your vehicle. If there is medical related to the accident, your insurance will cover it, not the other guy. If you are not at fault, any of the out of pocket expenses can be recovered from the at-fault driver. If this was a snow-storm related accident, and not an obvious thing, chances of recovering it go down a lot. Always run a dash cam. If you're at fault, eat the chip 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grapeshot 301 Posted February 18, 2021 11 minutes ago, Malsua said: Honda, Toyota would be better than a Nissan. Nissan's as a rule have really shitty gas mileage I can attest to this. The vehicle I replaced was a Nissan Pathfinder (my second one). That was the first thing I looked at. Nissan hasn't really kept up - a 3 year old Nissan looks like the interior of a 10 year old Nissan. Technology, electronics, aesthetics - just not up to today's standards. Plus, I needed a 6 cylinder to tow the boat; that crossed Honda off the list. Narrowed it down pretty quickly for me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SW9racer 262 Posted February 18, 2021 Get a Tacoma, with a home you need to transport the more than occasional bulky item. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Redeye65 165 Posted February 18, 2021 4 hours ago, Grapeshot said: I’ll take two! I bought my wife a Chevy equinox, it’s the 1.5 turbo, you get a ton of bells and whistles standard, if you get the all wheel drive model (recommended) you can turn it on and leave it on for a long commute to work, it’s not that bs all wheel drive where you turn it on get out of a situation and turn it off, you can blow the rear if you leave it for too long on those half assed all wheel drive models. In front wheel drive mode we get a consistent 33 mpg, not shabby for an suv. Do your negotiating online, you will get a better price rather then walking in. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,670 Posted February 18, 2021 2 hours ago, SW9racer said: Get a Tacoma, with a home you need to transport the more than occasional bulky item. Get a Honda Ridgeline over a Taco. The trunk under the bed alone makes it worth it, let alone all the interior storage upgrades and the nicer ride of the Honda. The Tacoma is cooler looking. Although the 2021 Ridgeline looks much better than My 2018, but not as good as my 2008 did. 3 hours ago, Grapeshot said: Plus, I needed a 6 cylinder to tow the boat; that crossed Honda off the list. Narrowed it down pretty quickly for me. Honda Ridgeline is a 6 cylinder. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gleninjersey 2,141 Posted February 18, 2021 Don't buy new and don't buy anything relatively new from GM. We were in a similar situation about 1 5 years ago. Wife's 2012 Enclave imploded with little less than 115k miles. Cracked engine block,1 bad Cat, needed front axle. Biggest POS we ever owned. I tried to steer her towards a Toyota Highlander. She wanted something larger and higher up. After A LOT of research and talking to a mechanic friend we settled on a 2004 Yukon Denali with just under 105 miles. Yes it was pushing 15 years old at the end of 2019. But the 800 series (Silverado, Sierra, Tahoe, Yukon & Suburban) are built like tanks. People routinely get 300k - 400k miles or more out of them. We were able to pay cash. Not having a car payment is very nice. We've had it since end of Oct 2019. Its been great. If you don't want to buy something older, get a pre-owned Toyota Tacoma or 4Runner. Yes they are more expensive but they last forever. If you don't need an SUV get Camry. SUV's are what everybody wants these days so they are more expensive. Somehow everyone managed to drive in the snow before SUVs. Now isn't best time to be buying a vehicle. Inventories are low due to Covid. Used prices are inflated. Good luck. If you want any information on the older Tahoes / Yukon, feel free to PM me. Next to newer Toyotas or Hondas the older Hoes & Yuks are almost as reliable. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SW9racer 262 Posted February 19, 2021 30 minutes ago, High Exposure said: Get a Honda Ridgeline over a Taco. The trunk under the bed alone makes it worth it, let alone all the interior storage upgrades and the nicer ride of the Honda. Depends, both are great. Do you need 4x4 or is awd good enough. I wish the Ridgeline had a center diff lock. The bed storage is really cool, but if you get a flat you are unloading everything to get to the micro spare. That 8 speed trans is still a bit new but looks promising. End of the day, can’t go wrong with either. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grapeshot 301 Posted February 19, 2021 57 minutes ago, High Exposure said: Honda Ridgeline is a 6 cylinder True, but trying to find one used off lease is pretty much impossible. And it's a truck - he said she wanted an SUV. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gleninjersey 2,141 Posted February 19, 2021 I've heard very good things about the older Ford Expeditions as well. Remember, a lot of SUVs (especiallly older ones) are based on truck platforms. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FDHog 618 Posted February 19, 2021 Guess you didn't have full coverage. Isn't the other driver on the hook? Chase down his insurance co. I had to do this when my truck was rear ended. Had collision, but didn't want to go through my ins. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1LtCAP 4,264 Posted February 19, 2021 8 hours ago, Grapeshot said: May I suggest looking for something that just came off lease? These vehicles typically have 25 - 35K miles on them, have service records, usually are certified, and come with a transferrable warranty. I purchased a Toyota Highlander last year with 30K miles for ~ $13 - 15K less than a new one would have cost. It was clean, looked new, and runs great. I tend to keep vehicles for ~ 150K miles and keep them serviced and garaged, so 30K miles is just starting to be broken in for me. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ this times a million. you almost can't go wrong buying something just in off lease. the other possible option would be to buy from enterprise or one of the rental places. i've got a small fleet customer that's been doing these two things for awhile, and he's not had a bad deal yet. 'cept for the driver that totaled one of the vehicles that they'd onbly had for a week or so..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1LtCAP 4,264 Posted February 19, 2021 2 hours ago, gleninjersey said: Don't buy new and don't buy anything relatively new from GM. We were in a similar situation about 1 5 years ago. Wife's 2012 Enclave imploded with little less than 115k miles. Cracked engine block,1 bad Cat, needed front axle. Biggest POS we ever owned. I tried to steer her towards a Toyota Highlander. She wanted something larger and higher up. After A LOT of research and talking to a mechanic friend we settled on a 2004 Yukon Denali with just under 105 miles. Yes it was pushing 15 years old at the end of 2019. But the 800 series (Silverado, Sierra, Tahoe, Yukon & Suburban) are built like tanks. People routinely get 300k - 400k miles or more out of them. We were able to pay cash. Not having a car payment is very nice. We've had it since end of Oct 2019. Its been great. If you don't want to buy something older, get a pre-owned Toyota Tacoma or 4Runner. Yes they are more expensive but they last forever. If you don't need an SUV get Camry. SUV's are what everybody wants these days so they are more expensive. Somehow everyone managed to drive in the snow before SUVs. Now isn't best time to be buying a vehicle. Inventories are low due to Covid. Used prices are inflated. Good luck. If you want any information on the older Tahoes / Yukon, feel free to PM me. Next to newer Toyotas or Hondas the older Hoes & Yuks are almost as reliable. the only bad thing on that era gm suv is the oil system for the variable displacement. there was a checkvalve that is part of the oil pan that used to blow oil straight up onto the crankshaft and cause problems. they've updated and corrected that issue. i like their variable displacement though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NJRulz 82 Posted February 19, 2021 I got a 2009 Tahoe - very reliable suv - I will miss it when it’s time replace with a new pickup Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gleninjersey 2,141 Posted February 19, 2021 1 hour ago, 1LtCAP said: the only bad thing on that era gm suv is the oil system for the variable displacement. there was a checkvalve that is part of the oil pan that used to blow oil straight up onto the crankshaft and cause problems. they've updated and corrected that issue. i like their variable displacement though. The pre-07 (800 series) don't have variable displacment (AFM, DOD, what ever you want to call it). I heard HORROR stories about the AFM. My mechanic friend confirmed the issue and so did another mechanic who was selling a customer's vehicle that we went to go look at. I inquired with him about it and he pointed to a "newer" model across the street (2013 if I recall). It was his and he had do a rebuild at around 75k miles. He was able to do himself but said if he was doing it for a client the rebuild would run at least a few thousand. You can disable the AFM with a simple plug in to the OBD port. But on a used vehicle with AFM who knows how much damage has already been done. So we steered clear of anything with the AFM. It took us several months to find a vehicle at the right price with not too many miles that drove straight and had little to no rust. We were driving all over (South Jersey, PA, CT) looking at vehicles. At one point we drove to Mechanicsburg, PA. About a 2.5 hour drive one way. Vehicle looked incredible and had low miles (75k-90k if I recall). Carfax listed it had been in a crash but we decided to take the drive. Long story short, it pulled. BAD. So we passed. We ended up finding our's eventually at a small dealership about 45 mintues away. Do you know around what model year the problem was corrected? Not that it really matters because hopefully we are driving the 04 for many, many years. On some of the newer models I've also heard horror stories having to do wiht the newer transmissions (10 gear??). I've read many stories of farily new vehicles (30k - 50k miles) that have had their transmissions go. I like that older vehicles are....older. Less things to go wrong. Simpler to work on & fix. But the 800 series (up to 06 and 07 for some the trucks with the "Classic" trim) they still have heated & power seats, power mirrors & locks, cruise control that you can push forward to increase the cruise speed, etc, etc. I don't need all the fancy do-doods. Just a nice reliable vehicle. And if you aren't in a rush to buy you can find some that have low miles that were well taken care of. That's one fo the few good things about this area. Some people don't drive much. Maybe they work in the city & take mass transit or only work in town / a few miles away from home. So they have an older vehicle but it has low miles and has been well taken care of. They are out there if you look. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1LtCAP 4,264 Posted February 19, 2021 the oil bypass issue was corrected somewhere around 2012. i've seen some newer still lose number 1 or number 7 lifters. you gotta pull the head to replace the lifters. sometimes they'll still get a p0522(or is it p0520?) which is for the oil pressure sensor. that one can be either a bad o-ring on the oil pump pickup tube in the engine(gm test is to over fill the engine then lift the back end, and see if anything changes) but more often than not is a bad sensor behind the intake. always replace the pigtail and the little filter under that sensor. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gleninjersey 2,141 Posted February 20, 2021 @Cheflife15 Don't know if you purchased anything yet. But this looks to be in very good shape. Take it to a mechanic to have it checked out. You should probably be able to put another 200k on this thing: https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/838853271/overview/ 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zabuca 158 Posted February 20, 2021 Guessing a Honda CR-V or Nissan Rogue? I think the market is friendly when it comes to resale on these Currently have a VW Atlas. Had a Tiguan prior. Leased both with minimal headaches / issues. 2018-2020 Tiguan had a manufacture issue with the sunroof drain line being easily backed up. But my preference is zee german engineering. Just remember the wedding is one day. The suv will be around for a while 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheflife15 455 Posted February 21, 2021 33 minutes ago, Zabuca said: Guessing a Honda CR-V or Nissan Rogue? I think the market is friendly when it comes to resale on these Currently have a VW Atlas. Had a Tiguan prior. Leased both with minimal headaches / issues. 2018-2020 Tiguan had a manufacture issue with the sunroof drain line being easily backed up. But my preference is zee german engineering. Just remember the wedding is one day. The suv will be around for a while The crv is ironically what she had. I think thats the direction she wants to go in. As far as the wedding is concerned i give her what she wants there. Shes not too crazy regarding it and honestly she doesn't limit my gun and ammo hobby sooooo its a win win 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gleninjersey 2,141 Posted February 21, 2021 Stay away from Nissan. Honda or Toyota are the way to go for newer vehicles. If you want to take my 04 Yukon for a spin to test drive it send me a PM. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1LtCAP 4,264 Posted February 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Zabuca said: Guessing a Honda CR-V or Nissan Rogue? I think the market is friendly when it comes to resale on these Currently have a VW Atlas. Had a Tiguan prior. Leased both with minimal headaches / issues. 2018-2020 Tiguan had a manufacture issue with the sunroof drain line being easily backed up. But my preference is zee german engineering. Just remember the wedding is one day. The suv will be around for a while rogue has a cvt tranny. cvt trannys are shit. they're so bad that nissan and other manufacturers extended the warranty out to 120k. if it fails after that, they're over 3k to rebuild. anything vw/owdie is shit unless you lease it then dump it after the 3 year lease. the turbos are oil burners. cats go bad. flex pipes go bad...which requires replacement of the cat. i had 2 customers with tiguans that lost the engines. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grapeshot 301 Posted February 21, 2021 If you're looking to replace a CRV I believe the Toyota equivalent is the Rav4. Lots of Rav4s in Flemington: https://www.fredbeanstoyota.com/used-inventory/index.htm?start=16&make=Toyota&model=RAV4& Also a few Highlanders: https://www.fredbeanstoyota.com/used-inventory/index.htm?search=&compositeType=&make=Toyota&model=Highlander&saveFacetState=true&lastFacetInteracted=inventory-listing1-facet-anchor-model-6 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites