montecristo345 4 Posted January 21, 2012 After a few failed tries the Tavor is supposedly coming to the US. Here's the interview from SHOT2012 Here's some stills that CD posted from SHOT2012 I'm excited, I'll start putting money aside and I need to find an FFL who will preorder it for me. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RecessedFilter 222 Posted January 21, 2012 Looks pretty cool. Bullpup designs are neat but they seem to be awkward with the magazine located in the rear part of the rifle. I skimmed the video but what caliber will this be in? 5.56/.223? And unless that has a threaded barrel to install a brake, that looks like a flash hider. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bbk 188 Posted January 21, 2012 I've been hoping and wishing for this to finally come state side (this and the ARX). FINALLY. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DevsAdvocate 112 Posted January 21, 2012 Holy hell!! I've always wanted one! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tony357 386 Posted January 21, 2012 Looks pretty cool. Bullpup designs are neat but they seem to be awkward with the magazine located in the rear part of the rifle. I skimmed the video but what caliber will this be in? 5.56/.223? And unless that has a threaded barrel to install a brake, that looks like a flash hider. That is how they were able to shorten it up..bolt to the rear.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dan 177 Posted January 21, 2012 I like bullpups, but, aesthetically I think the Tavor looks clunky. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MedicYeti 96 Posted January 21, 2012 It looks like it will be 5.56. The versions sold in Canada go for around 3,000. It's a very cool looking gun. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wolfy 51 Posted January 21, 2012 Look at the second pic below the serial number it is stamped 223 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
djg0770 481 Posted January 21, 2012 It looks like it will be 5.56. The stock CLEARLY says .223 Rem 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
montecristo345 4 Posted January 21, 2012 Maybe the photo is of the prototype and it's in .223? Everything I've read says the tavor is 5.56, guess we'll find out in the future. I wish there was more info from SHOT, I can't find anymore interviews on it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KpdPipes 388 Posted January 21, 2012 Sadly, it's going to be VERY Expensive....as in the $1500+ range Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gunnyr 17 Posted January 21, 2012 It still doesn't address the issue of having empties fly into your face when shooting left handed. Yeah, I see the covered slot that probably turns into the ejection port when you swap out for a left handed bolt but who the hell is going to do that in a middle of a firefight? All show, very little go. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_Matrix 105 Posted January 21, 2012 Is it just me, but the rifles looks very chunky and I hate the look of the pistol grip guard. The Steyr Aug is a bit more pleasing on the eye. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KpdPipes 388 Posted January 21, 2012 It still doesn't address the issue of having empties fly into your face when shooting left handed. Yeah, I see the covered slot that probably turns into the ejection port when you swap out for a left handed bolt but who the hell is going to do that in a middle of a firefight? All show, very little go. Why WOULD you try and swap out in the middle of a firefight???..if its your rifle, and you're a LEfty you SHOULD have swapped out for a left-handed bolt the day you got it 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted January 21, 2012 Why WOULD you try and swap out in the middle of a firefight???..if its your rifle, and you're a LEfty you SHOULD have swapped out for a left-handed bolt the day you got it Yeah, but off shoulder shooting would be a NO! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
raz-0 1,259 Posted January 21, 2012 Why WOULD you try and swap out in the middle of a firefight???..if its your rifle, and you're a LEfty you SHOULD have swapped out for a left-handed bolt the day you got it Nice idea provided reality lets you never have to shoot on your weak side. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KpdPipes 388 Posted January 21, 2012 Well considering none of us are IMF, there's about zip chance of that ever happening..if you dont like the concept..dont buy one... It really IS that simple. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted January 21, 2012 Well considering none of us are IMF, there's about zip chance of that ever happening..if you dont like the concept..dont buy one... It really IS that simple. IMF? It IS that simple, gun is not favorable to off hand shooting. Just that simple. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EchoMirage 137 Posted January 21, 2012 The stock CLEARLY says .223 Rem it be really stupid to make a gun like that to only shoot 223, not 556, regardless of what the stock says. i highly doubt the finished/imported version will be 223 only Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dan 177 Posted January 22, 2012 Shooting a side ejecting bullpup offhand just requires the proper technique. You don't have to put up with hot brass slamming into your face.... If learning that technique is too much, go for the fs2k or RFB with front ejecting ports, or don't bullpup at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gunnyr 17 Posted January 22, 2012 Well considering none of us are IMF, there's about zip chance of that ever happening..if you dont like the concept..dont buy one... It really IS that simple. I already understand the limitations of that design. My comment was mostly for anyone considering this as some type of defensive or even competitive weapon where off hand shooting is sometimes required. Also, the guy in the video claims it's an ambidextrous design...but only if you swap the bolt out. To me, that's not what I consider ambidextrous. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DevsAdvocate 112 Posted January 22, 2012 It still doesn't address the issue of having empties fly into your face when shooting left handed. Yeah, I see the covered slot that probably turns into the ejection port when you swap out for a left handed bolt but who the hell is going to do that in a middle of a firefight? All show, very little go. There is a magical solution to this... you shoulder the weapon, then proceed to tilt it 45 degrees so that the casings eject downwards. So easy, an Aussie, a Frenchie, a Brit, an Israeli can do it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maksim 1,504 Posted January 22, 2012 Can't believe i missed it at shot show. Just so much stuff there. This is not the israeli tavor in the full military sense, but rather a civilian version. Will be interesting to see. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KpdPipes 388 Posted January 22, 2012 IMF? It IS that simple, gun is not favorable to off hand shooting. Just that simple. Sorry i meant IDF Once again if you dont like it DONT BUY it..Since if i get one, i'm not planning on taking into combat anyway, i honestly dont frigging CARE if i cant slice a corner offhand. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KpdPipes 388 Posted January 22, 2012 I already understand the limitations of that design. My comment was mostly for anyone considering this as some type of defensive or even competitive weapon where off hand shooting is sometimes required. Also, the guy in the video claims it's an ambidextrous design...but only if you swap the bolt out. To me, that's not what I consider ambidextrous. There are ways around it..and one REALLY Simple one..choose a different platform . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gunnyr 17 Posted January 22, 2012 There is a magical solution to this... you shoulder the weapon, then proceed to tilt it 45 degrees so that the casings eject downwards. So easy, an Aussie, a Frenchie, a Brit, an Israeli can do it. Yes, so long as you don't care to use the sights. Not my first rodeo with the bullpup gents. There are numerous workarounds for the platform but ultimately it gives up too much in function for the sake of its form. I've worked with Australian and British private contractors who had no limitations on rifle choice. Their primary rifles were M4's with 14" barrels and they used AK's as secondary weapons. To a man they would rather pick up a pointed stick than deal with the SA80 or any other bullpup weapon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
montecristo345 4 Posted January 22, 2012 2 more videos I found Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gunnyr 17 Posted January 22, 2012 You know, the bigger story is actually the fact that Charles Daly is back in business. Looks like Kassnar started another company....hmmmm. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DevsAdvocate 112 Posted January 22, 2012 Yes, so long as you don't care to use the sights. Not my first rodeo with the bullpup gents. There are numerous workarounds for the platform but ultimately it gives up too much in function for the sake of its form. I've worked with Australian and British private contractors who had no limitations on rifle choice. Their primary rifles were M4's with 14" barrels and they used AK's as secondary weapons. To a man they would rather pick up a pointed stick than deal with the SA80 or any other bullpup weapon. I'm sorry, but how does canting a rifle one way or another prevent you from using your sights? Especially if the sight is an RDS? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,878 Posted January 23, 2012 All I can say is - don't knock it before you try it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites